"Don’t anybody start talking about morals, because we don’t have any in football" - the rolling Scottish football thread, season 2014/15

can I ask yous to continue your sluggish start to the season past the third round of the diddy cup? kthx

Oh, probably.

I have a lucid and coherent argument about where it's all going wrong but I'm on my phone and can't be arsed. So basically, stop fucking downsizing, start learning from mistakes, stop selling everything half-decent and replacing them with cheap/on-loan pish, and get Lawwell tae fuck.

Derek Adams out at Ross County. I sense Terry Butcher heading back up the A9.

Worrying prospect of County looking competent before Christmas. Though with Butcher or (D) Lennon in the frame...

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/28995560?SThisEM

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I know! How bizarre is that?

it's like championship manager from ten years ago

in other news... uh... craig gordon looks ok...

I like Craig Gordon. Not so sure about the ten diddies standing in front of him.

Ya there wasn't much nice i could say about the bits i watched

Oh FFS. Deila out.

In fact everyone that isn't Craig Gordon out.

I'm pretty happy with today's result, though I think we could have won. But a point against Celtic is always good.

I'm expecting Dundee to have a pretty good season - Top 6 seems more likely than 11th or 12th. I expect the "derby" in a couple of weeks will be tough.

Just saw Brian Graham's goal from yesterday, very nicely taken. I'm not used to seeing us score from headers.

I think they could have won as well. We were fucking abject, but that's what happens when you sell all your best players and replace them with shiter ones (or don't replace them at all). I will give Deila time to see if he gets to bring anyone in tomorrow (or manages to shift any of the dead wood), but I'm not banking on it. I don't believe he has it in him to get the current lot playing whatever way he wants (and I'm fucked if I know what that way is, because I'm not seeing anything that looks like a plan thus far).

Celtic solve our striking crisis by papping most our strikers away out on loan and then failing to secure one who has already been for a medical and got his work permit. Top work, chaps.

(I don't particularly like Pukki or Balde but surely crap strikers are just about better than no strikers, no?)

No Pukki >>> Pukki

It's a tough call. I mean, I don't particularly like Balde, McGeouch, never even seen yr Icelandic kid, still mystified at punting Watt. But not replacing them is madness.

Craig Beattie has signed for Ayr Utd. Missed a striker there...

you're getting John Guidetti on loan apparently

A striker! Now, could we not have done that *before* we got papped out of the Champions League?

hard to fathom why an owner who threatened to walk away from Hull less than 12 months ago is throwing this much money at them now

oops sorry

Scepovic deal back on, apparently. I'm sure he'll be popular, having chucked it earlier until Getafe backed out. He should just kid on he was trolling Lawwell to get folk back onside.

Pukki out, Balde out, Guidetti in, Scepovic in, Virgil still here. No idea what I was moaning about, tbh. Except the lack of a left back, but twas ever thus.

*waits for first game back after international break*

Keeping Van Dijk's been a good effort, especially if it wasn't achieved by locking him in a cupboard all day.

Wasn't expecting Saints to do anything today, and even if there were more signings to come they'll be freedom of contract anyway so no hurry. Reasonably happy with the squad, though there's been a lot of disquiet over the summer about how the club have communicated. May was never staying, we appear to have got the best deal we could in the circumstances. Goodwillie would have been a risky punt, but may have paid off. Hopefully Brian Graham will get his confidence back - scored about as many as May in his last season at Raith. We'll always struggle to get a goal-scorer on our budget. We got most of the key players from last season (and Gary McDonald) signed up early, which I think was forgotten at times. Will miss wee Nige, though.

Today's BBC Scottish Gossip reporting via the Herald that Pukki's glad to be away from Celtic as SPFL football is "too weak" for him. That'll be why he was a roaring success and punted out on loan, then.

Top of the Premiership table looks a bit weird.

Bottom of the Championship table looks familiar.

Rotten again today. Not much better midweek. No-one knows what they're doing.

Saw a "Celtic haven't won the last five games where Zaluska was in goal" stat earlier, which seems deeply unfair on him since his inclusion is usually a sign of massive changes afoot throughout the team.

I have no idea what Deila's plan or system is (or whether he even has one).

It is unfair on him. Then again he's kind of pish and there should never be any need to rest a fucking keeper.

Looks like Leigh Griffiths is going to Hibs on an emergency loan. The emergency presumably being that Hibs aren't very good.

that and we're paying for him to watch us from the stands when he'd clearly much rather watch Hibs

p sure hibs brought in at least two strikers before the window shut?

(but tbh I don't really get why they call them "emergency" loans at this stage in the season, because I don't think they really are. They don't need any special dispensation to make loan signings until april.)

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A++ would lol again

probably not wise to steal it for a quiz team name

fucksake hearts

So Hibs not that pish at all. Or Rangers are that pish. Or both.

McCoist looks worryingly close to losing his job :(

Will it no' cost about £2m to sack him? He doesn't do walking away, you know.

Will it no' cost £5-10m to keep him, miss out on promotion and add at least another year till their first ever European match? At some point, if they actually want a long term, they need to plan for it.

That said, in the short term, given the lack of £2m in readies, it's probably worth punting him onto gardening leave and getting someone (anyone) else in on a fraction of his wages.

Not til after our cup game, thanks. Though on recent showings I can see us managing to take a pumping. Never fear, though, Faddy's here!

Yeah, but I don't think they have the dosh for paying McCoist's wages plus the wages of AN Other less-crap manager, do they. given that they had to have a share issue just to pay off a loan? Rock, hard place. I think they're stuck with him. What they really could do with is someone somewhere in there stopping sanctioning shite like signing Kenny Miller and Kris Boyd.

If they can afford the players they have (lol ikr) then they can afford £100k a year for a decent manager. That's an eighth of Sally's wages but probably still more than any manager other than Ronny Deila and Gordon Strachan is paid.

Lovely opener from us tonight. Something to look back on when the wheels fall off.

So you're 1-0 up and struggling to hold the ball. The only place it's sticking is with Kris Commons, your goal scorer and playmaker who keeps winning free kicks.

Do you
a) sub Commons off
b) do something else