Travi$ Scott - Days Before Rodeo - best rap release of 2014 so far?

Street team is turning me off instead of turning me on.

I haven't heard this yet but based on the thread I'm going to assume that the terrible spoken-word interlude in that horrifying new Taylor Swift song is better

Funny to me that no one here yet knows that T.S was the muse and influence for the sound of Yeezus album. Thought it was common naledge around music nerds?

album was inspired by le corbusier lamps iirc

i keep accidentally thinking "T.S." means taylor swift and nodding approvingly while i stroke my chin

Must be the reason I don't like Yeezus then.

TBH an album full of GOOD Music retreads sounds more appealing to me than another DJ Mustard cut

Chris Richards in Washington Post liked Travis Scott at a fest live sorta:

The line-up wasn’t as starry as your typical Yardfest, but this year’s Trillectro did a better job of capturing contemporary hip-hop’s riotous spirit. And it culminated with a surprise performance from Travis Scott, an irrepressible Houston rapper who obliterated the demarcation line between artist and audience, inviting front-row fans to leap over the barricades while flinging his body out toward the masses.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/trillectro-music-festival-proves-it-can-keep-up-with-the-big-boys/2014/08/24/59f9b4f8-2bb6-11e4-9b98-848790384093_story.html

Guess nothing changes with Houston hip hop, years and years of brilliance ignored and unknown and looked down on by the white hipsters who make up this board and most of hip hop fanship. Still crazy to me that during mid 90s the somehow that dross coming from stale NY hip hop was seen as better than what was happening in the South.

didn't get a sense of him as a captivating live performer when he stared at his shoes and mumbled through the BET Awards cypher:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRYZgeSRR2w

When I first heard of this, I honestly though it was bold to pick a title that sounded like Brad Paisley record. Then realized it was more about shopping.

x-post---I dunno...Here's Jon Caramanica in the NY Times:

There was the rapper Travis Scott, wiry and pulsing with energy,

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/30/arts/music/a-producer-and-his-pulsating-rhythmic-ways.html

haha "A Producer and His Pulsating, Rhythmic Ways" may be one of the worst headlines ever written

But for a general NY Times audience it is probably fine

White hipsters such as myself, DJP, Murgatroid, and Dayo.

Houston hiphop historically very maligned on this board.

now im convinced raccoon tanuki is a sock

eh feel bad about saying anything, should have let this ride out

loved his drumming in blink 182

Also his song "Make It Rain"

and his film where they look for the holy grail. "she's a witch!"

Tanuki had worthwhile posts in the Outkast poll and some other threads, not gonna write him off cause of this thread

in all seriousness i have been trying to put together some kind of generous argument for travis scott as an artist just so i could enjoy thinking about his music instead of writing it off as a middling grayscale soup of contemporary ATL influences

best i can come up w/ is some kind of anti-rockist / anti-authenticity thing, like we're in an environment absent A&Rs so maybe people who can package and ~curate~ other ppl's ideas is the future

i do think if he was white he'd be given way more leeway, obv, in the "progressive" department—people who do white forms of black music seen as an 'evolution' of the sound off rip but ... that's bullshit whether it's led zeppelin or travis scott, right? Right? idk.

i dont like any of his songs, though, like his sound isn't radical enough—at least I 'got' The Weeknd even if I thought making a coherent hypermasculine R&B form was pretty retrograde and not worth selling, at least it was marketing a fresh sound, but this still feels like a soupy version of already-popular southern rap

and he's also not writing great pop songs, these are all faux-dramatic dirges ... not a new sound, not great pop, not original, what am i missing?

(not that he's even responsible for his own sound but im saying)

FKi's beat for "sloppy toppy" is pretty cool

could give this more leeway if it was diddy. he doesn't have diddy's personality, though

Yeah this is one of those artists who does everything pretty well, but not one single thing well enough for me to care or find it interesting.

hilarious thread.

album was inspired by le corbusier lamps iirc

ha !

a middling grayscale soup of contemporary ATL influences

yep.

NEXT.

Still crazy to me that during mid 90s the somehow that dross coming from stale NY hip hop was seen as better than what was happening in the South.

― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

someone tell me this doesn't seem sockpuppetish

Raccoon Tanuki had some good stuff to say in the Outkast artist poll thread

Which is why I checked out this album

I've only listened to like three rap albums front to back all year

So by default this makes my top 5

It's okay

Still crazy to me that during mid 90s the somehow that dross coming from stale NY hip hop was seen as better than what was happening in the South.

― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

someone tell me this doesn't seem sockpuppetish
--rap steve gadd (D-40)

i caught a whiff and backed away from the thread

thanks for the support guys.

stick travis scott in with Scarface/Geto Boys, UGK, Z-Ro, Big Mello etc of Houston rappers no one cares about until after the fact

lol

yeah no fans of any of those guys around here, nope not a one

I imagine I've been listening to Houston rap longer than you've been alive sonny body

body? wtf me

stick travis scott in with Scarface/Geto Boys, UGK, Z-Ro, Big Mello etc of Houston rappers no one cares about until after the fact

― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, August 29, 2014 11:52 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

this sentence is legitimately a disgrace to the legacy of all these artists

y'know nobody cared about scarface but after the fact

http://s3.amazonaws.com/nk_wp_media/uploads/2012/04/bloggerhousenet-620x830.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/2hx1x.jpg

Yeah because south wasn't ignored at all you're right

calm down, hip-hop Napoleon

geto boys were really popular in my school, right up there w/NWA. grip it (on that otha level) came out and gangster of love and all those were big songs.

they got a lot of play in the source as well, scarface is generally considered top 10 canonical MC for most ppl i'd say.

UGK did pretty well right off too, as well as 8ball & MJG (memphis but obv very southern)....

i didn't know about screw stuff until later

you know what IS underrated? South Circle, their first album owns

& then obv mind playin tricks on me got played every week on yo mtv raps after that came out

also the south has dominated hip hop for like the last 15 years anyway so wutchu sayin

TBH an album full of GOOD Music retreads sounds more appealing to me than another DJ Mustard cut

― 龜, Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbh a thread full of goon music retards sounds less appealing to me than another DJP cult

& then obv mind playin tricks on me got played every week on yo mtv raps after that came out

yeah I remember this too, my last year of high school. "We Can't Be Stopped" was huge.

Ghetto Boys (when it still had the h) grip it got 5 mics, as did the diary

Source loved the Big Mike album too

rodeo is an incredibly mediocre album, not that that's surprising, although it's not quite the complete garbage fire I expected

I like "Antidote"

I have a visceral reaction against his flow on that track

yeah his rapping is miserable in a Wiz Khalifa, grin and bear it sort of way. But I like the hook a lot

antidote is a good hook

i might not mind how much the hook is a "no type"/"drinks on us" bite if he didn't go so far as to reference "no type" on a verse

idk man keeping ur guard up even for dumb hooks seems a p equal gift/curse split at the end of the day

if i knew what a "night show" was referring to i'd probably dismiss antidote w/o qualms too but instead i mildly enjoy the innocent suggestion of 1950s drive ins and planetaria and whatnot

lol i have 'white iverson' in the enjoyably abysmal category too tho so never mind me

all the "night show" talk just makes me wonder if he's also doing rap concert matinees on his tour

antidote is such a nothing blah hook imo, not feeling it all

Looking for "a great verse"? Ha.

the new wiz song is such a hilariously blatant "antidote" rip off https://soundcloud.com/wizkhalifa/bake-sale-ft-travis-scott

don't you open up that bake sale

Lex Luger is the third of five credited producers on that, sad

theres some stuff on sings mcnight or w/e that i dont mind

ive heard good things about "goosebumps"

"pick up the phone" is prob my fav song of the year but i don't consider it a travis scott song really

hmm goosebumps sounds pretty shitty... what are the decent ones j crunch

i just listened to sdp interlude and first take (lol) which weren't bad... i guess maybe this is like views where this is pretty decent if you delete all the songs that aren't r&b

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP93Mo7GpS8

prefer the uk version ~ and i don't even knooow why ~

'Pick up the phone' recently coalesced for me as song of the year, too. closest thing to the 'yrn' beat he's been on since?

yrn really up there with faust arp and caucasiti (demo) huh

dont like pick up the phone really

idk thought way back, biebs, coordinate & the wkend song all sounded p good

xp- can u translate

https://twitter.com/Scott_CEOofSUH/status/787753792347385857

This funny thread...

more hip-hop albums should sample Gentle Giant is what I'm getting from this

trevor jackson tweeted that the opening track lists andy votel as part of the credits for the opening track.
that's a swerve i'd never expect.

yeah wow this starts right off with that gentle giant sample haha