post a nude photo of yourself

joeks aside it's really shitty and i'm quite surprised by the number of people i considered fairly right-on who are enthusiastically slavering at what's a quite horrible violation of boundaries without consent

xp yeah that

People tend to think of famous women's bodies as public property. It's the same reason they feel free to scrutinize them for weight gain or whatever, just a supercharged version of everyday misogyny but one that is rarely even recognized as problematic.

Men tend to think of women's bodies as public property

I am horrified by how many comments I've seen along the lines of "well it's their fault for taking the pictures" - how private does a private act have to be for it to be safe? It's a slippery slope to "well, if the secret camera filmed them having sex then maybe people shouldn't just have sex."

I also cannot get my head around the quality of low self-esteem required for dudes who think of themselves as "straight" to see a picture of an attractive naked woman and have, as their first reaction, the urge to sneer and call her a slut. I do not get this, and the more widespread it becomes the less I get it.

Feeling this post tbh

celebs should be like the rest of us and delete their naked selfies in shame and disgust two seconds after taking them

in at least one case they had deleted them, hacker got them from the cloud aiui

This is kind hard to articulate without coming off like a douche, but while it's not the celebrities fault for taking the pictures, there's a surprising amount of naivety in addition to a lack of discretion on their part for using smart phones for taking these pictures and then backing them up (tbf, probably unintentionally) to cloud storage--from which, as I gather, was where the theft took place. We live in a time where there are people out there whose sole job basically is to get ahold of and then exploit the most intimate information on celebrities, particularly women, and even more so famous women who've managed to set their own strong boundaries re: their private lives and bodies. Kate Upton recently gave an interview I happened to catch wherein she confessed that she'd probably never do a nude photo spread because she didn't want to deal with--as Three Word Username alludes to--serial comment-makers online critiquing her body and/or her as a person at the pitch that something like that would inspire.

And then here we are.

Boxedjoy otm. "If you don't want your nudes stolen, don't take nudes" is the digital version of "If you don't want to get raped, don't look or dress attractive"

Mostly otm in that the hackers are exclusively to blame, but not so much on the slippery slope element. Filming or photographing somebody with a secret camera i.e. without their permission is a categorically different kettle of fish.

We live in a time where there are people out there whose sole job basically is to get ahold of and then exploit the most intimate information on celebrities, particularly women, and even more so famous women who've managed to set their own strong boundaries re: their private lives and bodies

and yet you would blame those actresses for 'surprising amount of naivety and lack of discretion' ? is that really the problem here?

Bukowski:
To me, nudity is a joke. I don't think nude people are very attractive at all. I like my women fully clothed. I like to imagine what might be under there. It might not be the standard thing. Imagine, stripping a woman down, and she has a body like a little submarine. With periscope, propellers, torpedoes. That would be the one for me. I'd marry her right off and be faithful to the end.

well, "fucking a submarine" was a disappointing GIS

You're just not trying hard enough

http://i.imgur.com/oGN4G90.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/S0mu3sQ.png

ahahaha the second one

TBH I'm the wrong person to ask for pictures of fucking a sub - you should look up Whiney instead

:D

and yet you would blame those actresses for 'surprising amount of naivety and lack of discretion' ? is that really the problem here?

I'm not trying to deal in absolutes here. It's not the problem, but a problem. Of course the hackers are basically scum, garbage, predators etc etc., and they shouldn't be doing what they are doing. But they do. The celebrities have every right to privacy and to take as many pictures of whatever for their own enjoyment just like the rest of us. I do not blame them for this. Where I feel the 'naivety and lack of discretion' come in is that in using smart phones and cloud storage, which as we all know are very unsecure devices in terms of hacks, they are leaving themselves open in a way normal people who do the same aren't. I (or you, or most of the rest of this forum) could have a kajillion nude selfies on our phones right now, and no one would care. Jennifer Lawrence has one (or as we've seen, several) on hers, and there's a battalion of hackers trying to figure out how to get them. Given these circumstances I feel the necessary caution was not taken, or at least not taken at the right degree in these cases as to guarding their privacy.

If anyone cares about the technical side of this, it's been pointed out that the leak involves more than icloud because of 1- the age of some of the photos (vs 30 day storage) 2 - some of the phones used in the pics are not IPhones 3 - the leak includes videos which are not processed by icloud.

<spoiler>J-Law's boobs have nipples on them, apparently</spoiler>

are they blue?

My first reaction after hearing about this was kinda the same: The celebrities had to have been kinda naive to let this happen, after what had already happened with Scarlett Johanson, etc. But if Mary-Elizabeth Winstead's tweets are true, then the amount of effort that went in to getting these pictures goes so far beyond what anyone should plan for.

A perhaps positive effect: This leak is so massive it might waken people up to the problem, and by that I don't mean the celebrities themselves, but law enforcement, etc. Like, the person behind this leak should be made an example of, so much so that the next leaker would perhaps think twice before he did this (and apparantly asked for money for leaking further videos? I mean, wtf)

Also there's an issue with jilted exes publishing private photos on the internet as a mode of blackmail. This practice should be addressed somehow, hopefully legally.

The fact that no one has even bothered to mention the name of the victimized celebrity across 30 posts, because it is assumed you know all about it already, is a commentary in itself.

There are dozens of victimised celebrities involved.

People tend to think of famous women's bodies as public property. It's the same reason they feel free to scrutinize them for weight gain or whatever, just a supercharged version of everyday misogyny but one that is rarely even recognized as problematic.

― Treeship, Monday, September 1, 2014 5:31 AM (13 hours ago)

^^super otm

There are, like, 100 victims, and it's all in the news. And I just mentioned one. I don't really get your point, aimless?

I have no idea who the naked person is...hope it's not me *_*

"celebrities"

Actually they're prolly all pretty famous and I'm just old

News of naked celebs reaches me by a stagecoach-delivered mailbag, so I expect to know more by next Thursday.

http://i.imgur.com/AJmRldy.jpg

On a technical note I really hope this will lead to something better than two factor authentication. It works, but it's such an enormous hassle that hardly anyone is prepared to use it.

Upload a naked picture of yourself to authenticate

:D

(that pro-tip is cool) poor celebs, they can't ever use what's my pets' name, because everybody knows celeb X chihahua is called Y

iirc that was how Paris Hilton's phone got hacked back in the day? She had tinkerbell (her dog's name) as the password. More recently, I recall reading on ontd about Miley Cyrus stalkers who accessed her mother's icloud via similar means. 10 years between the two incidents and we're still using passwords?

more nude images:

http://mantlethought.org/sites/default/files/George%20W%20Bush%20Self%20Portraits.jpg

lol

http://www.clickhole.com/video/how-get-nude-pics-absolutely-any-celebrity-907

the narrator's voice on that is absolutely spot on

lord if I hear one more smug prick compare this situation with 'leaving a door unlocked' I will go postal.

a friend of mine got so fed-up with these assholes in a friend's FB thread that he actually claimed to have hacked their personal credit card info and threatened to post it on the thread since it was "their fault for not being secure enough". not something I condone but it was funny how quickly they didn't find it funny anymore.