Lalla Ward got fed up being married to that awful gobshite Richard Dawkins and regenerated into Missy, that's my theory.
Moffat said the Gallifrey thing would just be there in the background. It would be daft to reveal it already... don't forget we had Gallifrey sending regenerations through the crack in the universe in the Christmas episode... that gap's closed now. But there may well be some funny Gallifreyan business going on, forces which will emerge as the season goes on. All speculation of course.
― Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Thursday, 4 September 2014 11:26 (nine years ago) link
Has Moffat given any indication of how long he plans to stay on as head writer?
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 4 September 2014 11:55 (nine years ago) link
He's certainly on board for Season 9 having talked about a cliffhanger, but beyond that, it looks unlikely he'll stay on.
― Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Thursday, 4 September 2014 12:12 (nine years ago) link
It's an absurdly tough gig and he's not the most thick-skinned guy so I can see him leaving before too long, especially has the success of Sherlock proves he doesn't need Who. I really hate the Moffat-must-go crew though. I don't like everything he does but on balance it's a remarkable achievement under unbelievable pressure and there are only a handful of writers in the world who could handle that show.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Thursday, 4 September 2014 12:33 (nine years ago) link
Smith's final episode confirmed the Time Lords are indeed alive somewhere, but the whole thing hasn't been mentioned since.
You seem to have missed the entire next episode, in which he found Gallifrey and the Time Lords gifted him an entire new regeneration cycle.
― boney tassel (sic), Thursday, 4 September 2014 14:05 (nine years ago) link
whoops, as Stew says
― boney tassel (sic), Thursday, 4 September 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link
He's lost it again though, so I'm sure it's something that will come back up at some point.
― Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Thursday, 4 September 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link
Er, that episode was exactly the one I was talking about when I said "Smith's last episode". And he didn't really find Gallifrey, he just got the confirmation that they are alive somewhere (though presumably still within the stasis field the Doctor put them in the previous ep), on the other side of the crack. Presumably he still want to find them and release them of the stasis?
― Tuomas, Friday, 5 September 2014 08:33 (nine years ago) link
I bloody hope not
― boney tassel (sic), Friday, 5 September 2014 10:15 (nine years ago) link
Quite funny, rubbish plot.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 6 September 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
Oh right you guys have seen this one already (hides from thread for 24 hours)
― stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Saturday, 6 September 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link
SPOILERS: The Doctor wins.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 6 September 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link
goddamn timetravelling euros
*covers eyes & ears, backs out of thread*
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 September 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link
Is it shown on Sundays in the former colonies?
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 6 September 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link
saturday night in the US
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 September 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
This is interesting - a certain scene was cut for broadcast (I don't want to spoil anything; the workprints of the first 5 eps have been online for a while in case you'd like to check out what was removed). At some point we can talk about it I suppose
Loved this ep, very funny and Cap is marvelous in it
― Brakhage, Saturday, 6 September 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
Though that bit with the arrow at the end made noooooooo sense
― Brakhage, Saturday, 6 September 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, this was just stupid. I liked the general idea (what if there was a man behind the legend of Robin Hood, just like the Doctor is a man but also a legend?), but the constant nudge-nudge wink-wink meta commentary was tiring (especially during the loooong ending speeches between Robin & Clara & the Doctor), the banter was uninspired and formulaic, and the plot conincidences were just too much (of course the woman the Doctor saved was Maid Marian, of course Robin used the trick from the Doctor to beat the sheriff, of course the gold arrow had just enough gold to get the spaceship to launch - though I don't understand why it still exploded?). So yeah, a good concept, but bad execution.
― Tuomas, Saturday, 6 September 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link
Also, the robots were kinda stupid if they allowed the ship to lauch without having enough gold for it to fly. You'd think there'd be some safety measures or something?
― Tuomas, Saturday, 6 September 2014 23:36 (nine years ago) link
I can see what you're saying but I could watch those guys yell at each other in the cell for hours, I thought that was fantastic. The only part where I suspended Who-belief (which is kinda required since so much of Who is, well, predictable) to go WTF was that arrow bit. And like you say the entire ship thing which is totally nonsensical. I had to roll with it but it didn't feel great
Rewatching it how come he didn't look to see where the 'promised land' was if that was a programmed destination? Unless there is no physical location and more a goal
― Brakhage, Saturday, 6 September 2014 23:39 (nine years ago) link
The whole thing was a goofy-ass romp and that's kinda the point.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 September 2014 23:46 (nine years ago) link
Just rep-eat to-your-self it's just-a-show
― Brakhage, Saturday, 6 September 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link
Good advice!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 September 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link
This was better than most Gatiss stories because it was so much less ambitious. Enjoyable cobblers throughout. Robots so unmenacing that their threat can be deflected with a tea tray was pleasantly old-skool.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 7 September 2014 01:11 (nine years ago) link
I've seen Capaldi's "this fucking guy" look a million times by this point but it really works as the Doctor.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 7 September 2014 01:12 (nine years ago) link
Quite enjoyed that! Golden arrow was complete bollocks. Wish Capaldi had headbutted "Hoodie" in that first duel but the spoon was a great touch
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 September 2014 04:36 (nine years ago) link
v silly overall, but quite watchable
this skated over the usual pitfalls of the "celebrity historical" / "theme park Britain" episodes with charm until an atrocious burst of sub-RTD science
leaving the beheading in might have distracted from it at least
― boney tassel (sic), Sunday, 7 September 2014 07:16 (nine years ago) link
sub-Silver Nemesis, even
― boney tassel (sic), Sunday, 7 September 2014 07:17 (nine years ago) link
ICYMI:
https://i.imgflip.com/bveie.jpg
― jeangenet ramsey (suzy), Sunday, 7 September 2014 08:22 (nine years ago) link
The golden arrow was some "Idiot Lantern"/"Fear Her"-level nonsense
Fortunately a lot of the rest of it was funny; this Doctor and Jack would be pretty hilarious to watch bounce off of each other.
― stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Sunday, 7 September 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link
the sheriff of nottingham actor was p good
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 September 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link
Dug these last two eps. I'm in.
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 7 September 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link
I don't go to Dr Who for realistic science
― akm, Sunday, 7 September 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
the only Who i've seen was the first couple eps of the Ecclestone variation and it was basically unforgivably corny
― gbx, Sunday, 7 September 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link
that is actually kind of true. I have a hard time returning to th Ecclestones because I find his scene chewing a bit much to take. I know he has people who love him and he deserves credit for making the show a success again but, a few episodes aside, I'm not a huge fan of season 1
― akm, Sunday, 7 September 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
ok this was the first one I did not fall asleep in and also it was lolthey get a million points for having (BBC kids' series) 'Maid Marion' R Hood on the computer screens as it was cycling through the legends of Hood
― kinder, Sunday, 7 September 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
^^^Ha, did not notice that. Extremely fond memories of that show.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Sunday, 7 September 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link
i loved the arrow splitting joke
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 September 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
they get a million points for having (BBC kids' series) 'Maid Marion' R Hood on the computer screens as it was cycling through the legends of Hood
more points for including TV's first Robin Hood
http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/imageArchive/images/10301_gall_002.jpg
― boney tassel (sic), Sunday, 7 September 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link
<3
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 September 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link
Er I just rewatched that scene to check for it and this didn't happen? The only live action shot in there was one of Patrick Troughton as Robin Hood.
― JimD, Sunday, 7 September 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link
Oh xp
― JimD, Sunday, 7 September 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link
It was in the background. They had this image, twicehttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100723215015/maidmarianandhermerrymen/images/f/f9/Robin_Hood.jpg
― kinder, Sunday, 7 September 2014 23:25 (nine years ago) link
(or similar)
episode had a third doctor kind of vibe
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, 7 September 2014 23:37 (nine years ago) link
SPOILER: There is no spoon.
― Hakeem Olajuwon Howard (Leee), Sunday, 7 September 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link
this was great but bruce mcculloch as robin hood was very distracting
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 7 September 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link
HAI!
― boney tassel (sic), Monday, 8 September 2014 01:09 (nine years ago) link
Do you think the fourth episode will have a Fourth Doctor vibe?
― Hakeem Olajuwon Howard (Leee), Monday, 8 September 2014 01:25 (nine years ago) link