Don't Fear the Reaper vs. Hotel California

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Likely as not they opened a portal to hell that sucked the entire school in.

Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Saturday, 20 September 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link

You can show up for homeroom anytime you like, but you can never leave.

Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Saturday, 20 September 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link

what a spoooooooooky scenario

Treeship, Saturday, 20 September 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link

unfortunately soref the pictures are gone and i only vaguely remember what they were like. something about a cars driving inside a building. lots of dark red.

Treeship, Saturday, 20 September 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link

always read Reaper as consolation for a friend with a terminal illness

juggulo for the complete klvtz (bendy), Saturday, 20 September 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link

CLASSIC ROCK TRACKS POLL: THE RESULTS

1. Blue Oyster Cult – Don’t Fear The Reaper 3107 points, 41 votes, 2 first place votes
143. The Eagles – Hotel California 699 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote

some dude, Saturday, 20 September 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link

Buck Dharma has commented somewhere about Reaper not being as simple as a paean to suicide.

I hate the eagles but I can't deny that taken in a vacuum Hotel California is a good song. Harmonized guitar solo is legit awesome. I can enjoy this and the last resort off the same record.

BOC by a mile obv

Gar Tooth (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 20 September 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link

there will be no earnest votes for Hotel California. zero.

― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 20 September 2014 17:12 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

na

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 September 2014 23:56 (nine years ago) link

1. Blue Oyster Cult – Don’t Fear The Reaper 3107 points, 41 votes, 2 first place votes
143. The Eagles – Hotel California 699 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote

Was gonna say...we pretty much settled this a few weeks ago.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 20 September 2014 23:58 (nine years ago) link

the league ain't the cup

fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Saturday, 20 September 2014 23:58 (nine years ago) link

Nice piece on the production of reaper and the tricks involved. Lol at the insane way they got the snare sound:

http://www.mixonline.com/recording/tracking/blue-oyster-cults-dont-fear-reaper/

Gar Tooth (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 21 September 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link

I hate the eagles but I can't deny that taken in a vacuum Hotel California is a good song. Harmonized guitar solo is legit awesome. I can enjoy this and the last resort off the same record.

yes i agree. i do not care at all about the eagles but hotel california can stand alone.

Treeship, Sunday, 21 September 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, that's true enough. Thanks for the link, Jon L. Just listened to the demo version as a result.

Code Money Changes Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 September 2014 22:50 (nine years ago) link

with treesh on this. HC is a truly evocative, transportative piece of music, but I don't roll with any other Eagles I've heard. maybe it was young exposure that did this

imago, Sunday, 21 September 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link

Nice to find out the solo is on an SG. Not sure if that was buck's go to gtr at the time.

Treeship there are a few more unimpeachable eagles joints... I can't tell you why, one of these nights, in the city, journey of the sorcerer

Gar Tooth (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 21 September 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link

LJ go listen to journey of the sorcerer it is up your street

Gar Tooth (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 21 September 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link

i'm not a huge Eagles guy but there are definitely at least 7 or 8 hits i'd rather hear on the radio than "Hotel California." now and then i can leave it on and enjoy it, but it's just so long and overplayed.

some dude, Sunday, 21 September 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link

I want to do like a 12 hour interview with buck dharma. And another one with sandy pearlman. I've said this before on here.

Gar Tooth (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 21 September 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link

Oh shit I've heard this before. Not all 6 minutes but cmon a childhood fan of kooky British comedy not knowing this...impossible

It's fucking awesome obv

imago, Sunday, 21 September 2014 23:19 (nine years ago) link

SG is the guitar I immediately associate with Dharma, largely because of the "Tyranny & Mutation" inner sleeve

http://p2.storage.canalblog.com/23/72/636073/70557393.jpg

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 21 September 2014 23:19 (nine years ago) link

sorry didn't think it was that big

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 21 September 2014 23:19 (nine years ago) link

You can check out (BOC) any time you like,
but you can never leave (the eagles)

At least that's what they taught us in Sunday School(1983).

Liquid Plejades, Sunday, 21 September 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link

Thx myonga. Admittedly the sg is one of the classic guitars I can't really recognize by ear. These days buck plays some weird expensive looking boutique thing live.

Gar Tooth (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 21 September 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/VElL3Nq.gif

pplains, Sunday, 21 September 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link

Lock thread

Code Money Changes Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 22 September 2014 00:08 (nine years ago) link

there will be no earnest votes for Hotel California. zero.

― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:12 AM (Yesterday)

I wonder how many ppl voted for Hotel California as a result of this post

sarahell, Monday, 22 September 2014 00:32 (nine years ago) link

legions

Treeship, Monday, 22 September 2014 02:51 (nine years ago) link

Nice piece on the production of reaper and the tricks involved. Lol at the insane way they got the snare sound:

http://www.mixonline.com/recording/tracking/blue-oyster-cults-dont-fear-reaper/

― Gar Tooth (Jon Lewis), Sunday, September 21, 2014 5:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's pretty fascinating. Given how meticulous they were about every aspect of that record, no wonder Krugm4n hates the SNL skit.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 22 September 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link

Is it just me? I've never met an actual Eagles fan. Yet, they're something like the biggest-selling band in history. It's like, most people must buy an album at far below the level of conscious enthusiasm--sort of, "oh well, this is something people buy"--and the Eagles devastate that market.

Scott Miller otm.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 September 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link

The Eagles's Facebook page has 5,353,711 likes fwiw.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 22 September 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link

Eagles'

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 22 September 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link

Paul McCartney has 5,962,310.
Madonna has 18,389,741.
Lady Gaga has 67,352,941.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 September 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link

And every one of those likes started their own Facebook page.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 22 September 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link

By my math, Lady Gaga is approximately 13 times more popular than the Eagles. Who knew?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 September 2014 14:52 (nine years ago) link

The I Hate the Fucking Eagles, Man Facebook page has 129 likes.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 September 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link

Both good songs, have never bothered with the lyrics of either, main riff of "Reaper" is awesome, also like the vocals, voted "Reaper".

FYI Macedonia (Tom D.), Monday, 22 September 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, ftr, I do like the guitar solo in "Hotel California" quite a bit, and don't mind the whole HC album. "Reaper" is one of my all-time favourite rock songs, though.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 22 September 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOSalcHVXnU

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 September 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link

Hotel California would be good if it skipped straight from the intro to the outro, no vox necessary

Merdeyeux, Monday, 22 September 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link

Or just move the outro to the start, and after that you can check out any time you like

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 22 September 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link

Actually, the kitschy Gipsy Kings version does it justice just fine, imo.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 September 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link

you can't take don henley out of the song -- he's the one singing it
i don't care how good the music is when don henley is straining to sing 'bippity bup at the hotel california'
reaper or bust

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 22 September 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

I have an app that can take Don Henley out of anything.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 September 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link

Hotel California would be good if it skipped straight from the intro to the outro, no vox necessary

― Merdeyeux, Monday, September 22, 2014 1:16 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it was composed by "fingers" felder as an instrumental demo, would be kind of cool if they released that... but i suppose it would be bad to let the audience behind the curtain of EEGLES MAJIK

today's quest is to find a download of the MFSL of agents of fortune. I can't say I love the way it sounds on the remastered cd or the original cd. It sounds like it SHOULD sound great but it doesn't somehow.

von Daniken Donuts (Jon Lewis), Monday, 22 September 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link

also I am listening to albert bouchard's new solo album right now. First song was awesome, second song not awesome.

von Daniken Donuts (Jon Lewis), Monday, 22 September 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link

'bippity bup at the hotel california'

TYVM for this LL

bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Monday, 22 September 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link

that's all-time.

how's life, Monday, 22 September 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/1823248/bippity-boppity-boo-o.gif
Bippity Bup at the Hotel California...

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 September 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

treeship, just out of curiosity what is your age?

― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, September 22, 2014 4:30 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

25

Treeship, Monday, 22 September 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link

I have always hated Hotel California.

Conversely, I have always loved Don't Fear the Reaper. Just heard it the other day on a Six Feet Under episode when Nate drives off on a motorcycle after a rather depressing funeral.

LimbsKing, Monday, 22 September 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link

I know I've posted this before, but I think it bears repeating. Joe Walsh told this story on a Chicago radio show in the late 80s.

Walsh and Felder were in the control room listening to the playback of the HC solos. Henley walked in, listened for a bit and said, "What the fuck is this? This sounds like shit! Do those solos over!" and stalked out. Walsh and Felder smirked at each other like, "Ugh, so sick of that fucking guy." An hour later Henley returned, high off his ass, demanding to hear the new solos. They played the tape, Henley listened and said, "See, now that's MUCH better. Thanks, guys!" Walsh and Felder hadn't re-recorded a note. Henley was hearing the exact same solos he'd heard an hour earlier (and which wound up on the record).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 22 September 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link

Felder tells that much differently (and I'll take Felder's word over Walsh's any day of the week, heh):

"Uh-huh. That was there, and all the way down to most of the guitar parts on the ending. In fact, when we were doing the guitar parts at Criteria Studios in Miami, I thought that Joe and I would just plug in our guitars – I'd play some licks and he'd play some licks, and we'd just trade off each other. When I wrote the ending, I recorded my guitar parts on a Les Paul and I played Joe's answers on a Strat. I used a different amp so it sounded like a different guy, the way Joe might play it, and then I'd pick up my guitar to do the answer to that – so I emulated what the whole idea would be.

"When we were in the studio, Joe and I started jamming, and Don said, 'No, no, stop! It's not right.' I said, 'What do you mean it's not right?' And he said, 'No, no, you've got to play it just like the demo.' Only problem was, I did that demo a year earlier; I couldn't even remember what was on it. So we had to call my housekeeper in Malibu, who took the cassette, put it in a blaster and played it with the phone held up to the blaster. We recorded it, and I had to sit in Miami and play exactly what was on the demo. Joe had to listen to the way I had emulated him, and he played something very close to that. It was close enough to the demo to make Don happy."

From this (worth reading imho): http://www.musicradar.com/us/news/guitars/interview-don-felder-on-the-eagles-classic-song-hotel-california-557397

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 22 September 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link

"We haven't had that spirit here since 1969" vs "Pink champagne on ice"

I guess she knew someone in the kitchen

Mark G, Monday, 22 September 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link

i was just wondering about your age because if you were in 9th gr, that would be...2003?

I did an art project in ninth grade where I listened to Hotel California on repeat for three class periods and drew whatever images came to mind that weren't literally connected to the lyrics. (We were able to pick the song we used.)

why did you choose "hotel california" at that age (and in that year)?! what did the other students choose?

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 22 September 2014 23:27 (nine years ago) link

rock 'n' roll never forgets

mookieproof, Monday, 22 September 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link

Felder tells that much differently (and I'll take Felder's word over Walsh's any day of the week, heh):

Yeah, I would too, particularly as Walsh was pre-sobriety when he told the story (and his speech was so slurred, it sounded like he'd had a stroke).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 22 September 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link

xp LL

it was just a song that i had always been aware of and wondered about. i didn't know what the hotel was supposed to be: a haunted hotel? a brothel? a cult? the ambiguity was engrossing. i also didn't really know much about the eagles and what rock critics thought of them... maybe i knew their lead singer was named don henley, but it's unlikely.

Treeship, Monday, 22 September 2014 23:46 (nine years ago) link

i don't remember what the other kids chose. i have a dim memory of "hair pie" by capatain beefheart being chosen by this especially cultured student but i am not sure how possible that is.

Treeship, Monday, 22 September 2014 23:49 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 31 October 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link

didn't vote but i would've put an earnest vote for hotel california. i'm no eagles fan but there is something intriguing about the song. i think there is some thread like "what exactly is going on in hotel california" that breaks it down musically and it's a really good ILM thread!

marcos, Friday, 31 October 2014 00:15 (nine years ago) link

don't fear the reaper doesn't do much for me imo. i didn't even really know the song, i had to look it up. didn't realize blue oyster cult was even a 70s band, for some reason i thought they were some bunch of jerkoffs like primus or something. oh shit that's because of oysterhead! man that band sucked

marcos, Friday, 31 October 2014 00:17 (nine years ago) link

no it's not that one, let me find it.

marcos, Friday, 31 October 2014 00:20 (nine years ago) link

and just what the hell is going on in "Hotel California"?

marcos, Friday, 31 October 2014 00:20 (nine years ago) link

You gotta endure Howard 'n' Robin but here's Don Felder discussing the composition of HC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jc8cPStgRQ

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 October 2014 00:23 (nine years ago) link

didn't know Don Felder was a full partner, unlike poor slaves Schmitt and Walsh, hence the lawsuit.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 October 2014 00:26 (nine years ago) link

accurate results

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 31 October 2014 00:40 (nine years ago) link

hey the data don't lie

Pontius Pilates (m coleman), Friday, 31 October 2014 00:52 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, legally Felder had a leg to stand on. He was part of eagles inc.

I liked hearing (dimly in the background) felder's reggae rhythm box instrumental demo for HC in the eagles doc. Is there a leak/boot of it anywhere?

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Friday, 31 October 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link

BOC forever btw

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Friday, 31 October 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link


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