Battlestar Galactica Revival

there's two main non-white female leads but idk if that's clear at the beginning

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/arts/richard-hatch-dead-.html

Richard Hatch, a veteran actor known for his portrayal of a hotshot pilot on the 1970s science-fiction television series “Battlestar Galactica” and a political leader in a reboot of the series more than two decades later, died on Tuesday. He was 71.

;_; rip Apollo

:(

RIP traitorous Zarek

I like this take on the character (copied from WikI):

After "Blood on the Scales", Richard Hatch commented on Zarek's motives on the Chicago Tribune website:[1] "I would like to say that never did I play this character as a villain nor did I think he was one and I still feel that way. After paying the price of 25 years in prison for standing up for human rights and seeing both his family, friends and cohorts killed by a suppressive government on his home planet he had every right to distrust the powers that be on Galactica that seemed to think that only they had the right to make decisions for the people. And since Zarek was blocked illegally by Roslin and Adama at every turn including from winning a fair election he had to resort to any leverage he could gain to assert some kind of voice in what had become an almost dictatorial government run by Adama and Roslin, who looked with disdain upon the council of the 12 and did pretty much what they wanted without consensus of the people." In his opinion, "Zarek, Adama and Roslin all wanted power for the same reason, to make a positive difference but Zarek still idealistically believed that the government should always be accountable to the people".

Is Hatch near unique in this regard? To have played two distinctly different characters in two versions of the same story/franchise/whatever, where both were key characters for the story as a whole? (As opposed to simply a walk-on/cameo role in a reboot, since that's happened any number of times.) I know that he wasn't supposed to be recurring initially but obviously he became one.

Of course saying 'distinctly different' is shaded nicely by his quote there -- he, very rightly, played both characters as heroes according to their own standards.

I certainly think his decades-long efforts to reboot the show before the reboot are remarkable.

The original series is hokey as hell but I loved it to death as a kid, and he made for a good, earnest hero.

I started watching the original show with Galactica 1980 where they go back in time and punch Hitler or something. I think it's supposed to be awful but I LOVED it. Not sure if Hatch appears in it, actually.

The two-parter that sends off Hatch's character is probably the sole redeeming moment of the last season or so. So frustrating to see that glimpse of former excellence followed by the S.O.S. again.

I started watching the original show with Galactica 1980 where they go back in time and punch Hitler or something. I think it's supposed to be awful but I LOVED it. Not sure if Hatch appears in it, actually.

He wasn't -- very few of the characters from the original show made it over. Adama, Boomer (now in Tigh's position) and Boxey, now one of the two adult leads, are the only consistent carryovers. Starbuck ended up marooned on a desert planet in a flashback episode and Baltar is still out there Baltaring. That's about it.

If the series had survived any more, the batshittery would have increased, per Wikipedia:

the series was cancelled during production of episode 11, "The Day They Kidnapped Cleopatra", which remained unfinished

I mean at this rate, they would have ended up creating Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure eight years early.

Good grief, and it turns out the original version of Galactica 1980 would have been even goofier...though it is interesting that Baltar in this version would have partially followed the path of the one in the new version:

Both Larson and the network felt the show needed some major change of focus to relaunch it as a spin-off, and Larson and Donald P. Bellisario decided to set the new series five years after "The Hand of God", the final episode of the original series. This would allow them to weed out many supporting characters who were now considered superfluous - Colonel Tigh, Athena, Cassiopeia, Boxey, etc. - which would bring down production costs. The only major characters to return from the original series would be Commander Adama, Colonel Boomer (replacing Tigh), Apollo, Starbuck and Count Baltar. Baltar was to have made atonement for betraying the Colonies to the Cylons, and was now the President of the Council of Twelve.

Upon discovering a 'present day' Earth completely unable to defend itself from the Cylons, Adama decided to just head off into deep space to lead the Cylons away from the planet, but Baltar suggested using time travel technology to alter Earth's history so its technology would develop more rapidly up to a Colonial level. The Council votes this suggestion down, so Baltar steals a ship capable of time travel and heads into Earth's past to carry out his plan anyway. After some deliberation, Starbuck and Apollo are sent after him to bring him back or at least undo his changes to history. Episodes would feature a new "Time Mission" every week, generally with Apollo at some different time in the past, and Starbuck flying back and forth between "Now" and "Then" to give information and support to Apollo. ABC approved this pitch, and gave the approval to develop a pilot for the series.

Baltar is still out there Baltaring

lol

dont stop baltaring

My lack of surprise: total.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/battlestar-galacticas-ronald-d-moore-admits-the-cylons-1796020590

haha

But, in a way, isn't not having a plan the most cunning plan of all . . . ?

I'll show myself out.

That's great.

Outlander is a better show, really, for not writing itself into a corner every season.

I saw in an FB live vid that Lisa Joy (Westworld) is writing a Galactica film, dunno how I feel about that.

The first two seasons are not as good as I remembered.

Wondering if this will make the last two seasons comparatively better or even more awful.

Grace Park tho

i was so angry with what they did re: starbuck in the final episode that i never want to see this again, and perhaps even begrudge thinking about it and typing this post

pray tell what did they do to straybucks

something something pumpkin spice

Looked up what the actress who played Cally did post-Galactica, figured she was on the low-budget sci-fi wheel like Jewel Staite post-Firefly.
Nope, helped run the cult Allison Mack was involved with.

Third season is even more incoherent this time around.

Grace Park was also involved in Nxivm

So basically they were so affected by Baltar's sex cult they decided to find one of their own.

Clyne (born February 11, 1983) played Cally Henderson Tyrol on the Sci-Fi Channel television program Battlestar Galactica from 2003-2008. She joined NXIVM around 2006, having been recruited in Vancouver.

She would fly back and forth to Albany to take Intensives. She appeared in concert for Raniere in 2007 with actress Kristin Kreuk and Allison Mack in Albany.

Clyne was encouraged to quit acting by Raniere, according to multiple sources. Although under contract in her recurring role in the series, in 2008, she asked the producers of Battlestar Galatica to let her out of her contract. They agreed and, in an episode, her character was killed off.

She became a slave of Raniere and Mack and had her pubic region branded with Raniere and Mack’s initials.

god damn, cally. that's arguably a fate even worse than starbuck in the last episode

always wanted to see Leah "Racetrack" Cairns in other things because she look interesting, but i don't think i've seen her in anything other than Fargo season 1.

Racetrack is in the supporting cast of Travelers (on Netflix)

It is happening...again.

https://deadline.com/2019/09/battlestar-galactica-reboot-drama-series-sam-esmail-nbc-streaming-service-peacock-1202736127/

Fuck these networks for relying on nerd money to prop up their stupid OTT services.

eh i don't know if networks really have a reason to continue existing as channels with time slots.
when more boomers die off, channels will probably go with them.

this is such a bad idea

odds that this will be any good are v low. it's a minor miracle the first few Moore BSG seasons are as good as they are

And now this is all...more tangled.

BSG fans, this will NOT be a remake of the amazing series @RonDMoore launched because... why mess with perfection? Instead, we’ll explore a new story within the mythology while staying true to the spirit of Battlestar. So say we all!

— Sam Esmail (@samesmail) September 17, 2019

The Office, but New Caprica.

In the Bedroom with Baltar

synopsis:

Earth, 1988 -- U2's cover of All Along the Watchtower as featured in the film and accompanying double album Rattle and Hum activates a sleeper cell of Cylon agents, who meet at the return counter of a Sam Goody in New York City, where they begin to formulate their plan of conquest and annihilation.

the edge is definitely a cylon

note to self: when they say the cylons have a plan, they definitely do not have a fucking plan

Rerereboot.

https://deadline.com/2020/05/battlestar-galactica-michael-lesslie-showrunner-peacock-reboot-1202923668/

Peacock’s reboot of Battlestar Galactica has found its world builder. Michael Lesslie, who was the lead writer and showrunner of AMC’s spy drama The Little Drummer Girl and penned scripts for Macbeth and Assassin’s Creed, will create, write and executive produce the series.

The new Battlestar Galactica comes from Mr Robot and Homecoming exec producer Sam Esmail, who struck a big overall deal with NBCU’s Universal Content Productions last year. It is produced by Esmail Corp and UCP, with Esmail and Chad Hamilton also exec producing.

Literally the only hint about what this will be is:

Lesslie will work up a reimagined world.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

man, that does not sound promising

booo

Homecoming had some interesting ideas around memory and culpability. Maybe this could be good? It continues to be sad that nothing gets made without some IP tie-in.

i quit homecoming after three episodes.

They are reshowing this on bbc2 starting in about half an hour. Which saves me having to dig out the DVDs.