i read the book a couple of years ago and found it disappointing and way overhyped but i think i'll still see this, mainly for the love of rosamund pike.
― estela, Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link
piscesx I noticed the same thing, lots of mumbly near-incomprehensibility in the first half hour especially, all the banter btwn Pike and Affleck when they first meet especially
― Simon H., Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:33 (nine years ago) link
So how does this hold up to "Side Effects?" When I saw "Side Effects," my first reaction was that it was a better "Gone Girl." But I'm wondering if my reaction was mostly surface, based on the different ways they turned out. Which is to say, both are pretty ridiculous scenarios, but I found the conclusion of "SE" more believable?plausible?satisfying than the end of "Gone Girl" (the book). I also thought, once the screws started turning, that "Side Effects" was more fun.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:35 (nine years ago) link
I'm a fan of the book, but it's striking how many people (me included) felt a little deflated by the first big plot twist. I think it (mostly) recovers, however.
― ryan, Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:43 (nine years ago) link
C'mon, Side Effects was terrible.
― Eric H., Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link
Believability/plausibility are completely beside or even against the point of this movie
― Simon H., Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:57 (nine years ago) link
There are people that liked Side Effects?
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:59 (nine years ago) link
this movie's going to be obnoxiously huge
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 5 October 2014 05:06 (nine years ago) link
also rosamund pike reminds me so much of laura linney
As high pedigree twisty pulp trash, yeah, I thought "Side Effects" was great. Given I've read "Gone Girl," and given the movie apparently doesn't deviate from the book much if at all, I would be absolutely shocked if the film were anything but high pedigree trash as well. I'm really curious now what folks think "Side Effects" did or got wrong that this film does not.
Well, that's not entirely true. When you watch a prison escape movie, you don't want someone cutting their way out with a special laser saw they conveniently assembled. These sorts of stories are set in the real world, and while they do require some degree of suspension of disbelief, when your central conceit is essentially "how'd they do it?" you want the answer to be at least somewhat reasonable. The book I thought twisted and turned itself so much to demonstrate the apparent omniscient plan for every contingency super-genius deviousness of its protagonist that it got a little silly and fridge logic started to overtake the plot (at least in my experience). Has nothing to do with enjoying yourself at the movies, though!
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 October 2014 12:36 (nine years ago) link
he sound was kinda crappy in the flashback-y early scenes especially one, in the bar when they meet first time. was almost incomprehensible at points. some people are suggesting (on IMDB etc) that it's *intentionally* bad in that scene!
noticed this too, especially when Aflac spoke.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 October 2014 12:46 (nine years ago) link
this is the legit clip i was talking about. still sounds a bit muffled even here but in the cinema it was as good as inaudible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7z45e-XIVQ
― piscesx, Sunday, 5 October 2014 13:44 (nine years ago) link
gaaaaah I have to look at Aflac's face
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 October 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link
well this is kinda weird. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/goldstandard/la-et-mn-gone-girl-academy-oscars-20141004-column.html
― piscesx, Sunday, 5 October 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link
I'm not sure I've ever seen something like that before: a mainstream newspaper piece on muted snap-judgement reactions to a movie that I hadn't even realized had Oscar buzz. Talk about "so what?" The Oscars are lame enough. Who cares what some prospective Oscar voters think about a the Oscar-worthiness of a movie? That piece read like the sort of thing that runs when people are trying to sink a movie that's already been nominated.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 October 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link
Tyler Perry for Best Supporting Actor or gtfo
― the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Sunday, 5 October 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link
author's twitter bio
Los Angeles Times writer, covering movies and television. When the leaves change color, focus turns to the Oscars.
― da croupier, Sunday, 5 October 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link
plus, Josh: it's the L.A. Times.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 October 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link
Oscar odds:
http://i62.tinypic.com/f53vid.png
― the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Sunday, 5 October 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
Ugh, Unbroken. Trailer looked like boilerplate then I saw it was directed by Angelina Jolie.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 October 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link
Written in part by the Coens tho I think?
― Eric H., Sunday, 5 October 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link
Fincher NPR interview. Totally forgot about Bennifer et al.
He's been through this, yeah. Ben is extremely bright and he's been through situations that are very similar to this, and he has a, he has a great sense of humor and great wit about what this situation is and how frustrating it is, and he was able to, obviously, draw on that stuff to be able to portray somebody who, you know, puts one foot in his mouth and then goes another two days and puts the other one. And that was, I think, sort of a key to empathizing, and I don't know that it made the character more likeable, because he is kind of frustrating in a certain way, but he's very human.
― the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Sunday, 5 October 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
A shame that The Boiler Room aside he's never accepted a screen role that flatters his intelligence.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 October 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link
weird since the movie seemed to have a low level but steady contempt for his character.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 5 October 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link
tell you what, his episode of Inside The Actor's Studio was great; it was right in the depths of his Bennifer/Gigli era and he was self deprecating and smart and funny. he made out that Matt Damon was the brains of the operation when they were writing Good Will Hunting, while MD himself was sat a few feet away chuckling in the audience. some people have looked like right self-important windbags on that show but he really came across unexpectedly as a decent cat and i've liked him ever since.
― piscesx, Sunday, 5 October 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link
I hold nothing against him as a person, and his ranting at Maher a couple days ago re his Islamophobia was great
― Simon H., Sunday, 5 October 2014 22:50 (nine years ago) link
I saw that "Actor's Studio" ep at the time, and, yeah, thought the same. He also looked like he'd had a couple in the green room.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 October 2014 22:53 (nine years ago) link
Amazed at the hype surrounding this. I thought it was okay; it starts off very badly, improves, then gleefully shoots off a cliff into complete ridiculousness. Fincher's underlit sombre mood sits awkwardly with the trashy pulp of the story, but he clearly loves this type of stuff. This is an improvement on Dragon Tattoo, but it still didn't completely work for me. Affleck is well cast, but Rosamund Pike steals it.
― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Monday, 6 October 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
officially one of the '100 best films of all time' now according to IMDB rankings, at number 85. that's pretty nuts even for the already-nuts IMDB.
― piscesx, Monday, 6 October 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link
a fincher suspense with a zillion twists and turns, only inevitable
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 6 October 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link
and probably compiled by men
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 October 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
Richard (Donnie Darko) Kelly has some thoughts:
GONE GIRL and EYES WIDE SHUT: A Study of Psychopathy in the Heteronormative Patriarchal Occult
http://ronaldtaverner.tumblr.com/
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 October 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
continnuum of books every damn motherfucker reading on london underground: girl with the dragon etc -> 'One Day' by David Nicholls -> this― intelligent, expressive males within the greater metropolitan (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:17 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
people be readin' popular books!
gonna see this tonight
i thought "side effects" was really pleasurable through the 2nd-to-last reel.
A shame that The Boiler Room aside he's never accepted a screen role that flatters his intelligence.― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, October 5, 2014 5:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the strange thing about affleck is that by all accounts he's a very smart guy but even when the character doesn't call for it, he comes across on screen as big boob!
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 6 October 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link
My review was accused in a Facebook group that I will leave tonight of sending people on "an unsolicited neo-feminist guilt trip."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 October 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
hahaha
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 October 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link
i make sure to solicit my neo-feminist guilt trips
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 6 October 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link
I need to feel guilty about something, whadayagot
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 October 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link
Almost every new movie by the class of '99 auteur group of Fincher/PTA/Jonze/Payne/etc usually bounces into the IMDB top 250 immediately after it's released. But it's cool. Roughly half of them sink out of it with time.
― Eric H., Monday, 6 October 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link
payne, still? really?
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 6 October 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link
yikes
And don't forget that every Chris Nolan movie is the greatest movie ever made for a couple weeks after they are released.
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 October 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link
it hadn't occurred to me that those directors Eric named who attract the worst male brats in the universe all came of age/broke in '99.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 October 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
From Alfred's review:
“He thinks Lolita is a cheese”
"He thinks velveeta is a cheese", I heard. A better gag, though I am not directly familiar with your American processed dairy products. Rest of the review otm.
― If a job's worth doing it's worth doing, Horatio (ledge), Monday, 6 October 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
You're probably right -- the sound mix was a problem for the first 30 minutes. The movie was American-processed product though.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 October 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link
I'm pretty sure NEBRASKA went top 250 for at least a little while.
― Eric H., Monday, 6 October 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
Vel-vee-tah
― the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Monday, 6 October 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link
Vel-vee-tah: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 October 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
"Look at this sandwich of ham."
― the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Monday, 6 October 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
velveeta mac n cheese is delicious go america
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 6 October 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
enjoyed that richard kelly piece though now i feel the need to rewatch EWS more than i do to see gone girl.
― mattresslessness, Monday, 6 October 2014 23:01 (nine years ago) link