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uh yeah this nocturnal tune is my shit

Tim F, Monday, 6 October 2014 12:27 (nine years ago) link

the wideboys really have a lot to answer for don't they

like i feel like a lot of this stuff : the wideboys :: future garage : steve gurley

Tim F, Monday, 6 October 2014 12:29 (nine years ago) link

my natural instinct is of course up middle finger to stuff that needs good speakers maan but yeah nah i am impressed

r|t|c, Monday, 6 October 2014 12:29 (nine years ago) link

That Yoshi P tune!! shameless "Dancehall Queen" sampling!!!

Does this mean I have to pay attention to Roska's show or

Tim F, Monday, 6 October 2014 12:31 (nine years ago) link

xpost yeah I get you on that, I think though that the sonic fetishisation of an aesthetic that remains so plasticky and aspirational-glamour and non-deep means that even these ~studio wizardry~ latterday efforts avoid some of the dead-on-arrival desiccated butterfly under glass feel that characterised future garage from the moment it was invented. Probably not for long, but for a little while.

Tim F, Monday, 6 October 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link

xp ha jamie george tbf

as soon as i think "fuck no" i'm already dling the most recent one juuuuust to be sure :(

r|t|c, Monday, 6 October 2014 12:40 (nine years ago) link

otoh thinking back to shuffle tech i'm feeling there's a slight tension (possibly even a looming rupture) between today's g-house ruffneck rude and the more austere prowling scifi headspace dub of the earlier matt fear/majesty/playtime wave, and i'm def still more on the side of the latter atm so i'm not being entirely true

r|t|c, Monday, 6 October 2014 12:48 (nine years ago) link

BTW I did go back and listen to the Archie B set again - it does have that grim vibe but so much confidence in its sound-as-a-genre that even if I wasn't feeling it - which of course I do - I don't think I'd ever be minded to question the selector-judgment at work.

Whereas with this stuff it's almost like for me the charm can be that it's skating so close to going bad? In that sense - though obv not in sound or aesthetic preoccupation or anything else really - it reminds me of broken beat where I never knew in advance whether I was gonna love something or loathe it.

Tim F, Monday, 6 October 2014 12:48 (nine years ago) link

can I be the anti-lex and ask for a dj set recommends in respect of today's g-house ruff neck rude?

Tim F, Monday, 6 October 2014 12:49 (nine years ago) link

hi soz, funny thing is for all i've mentioned it i havent really had specific trax in to mind... try these in the meantime

http://www.beatport.com/release/rock-steady/1376537
https://soundcloud.com/nightshift-1/nightshift-that-hard-street-s
https://soundcloud.com/thisiscuff/cuff009-ennio-go-insane
https://soundcloud.com/marckinchen/kant-vs-mk-ey-yo-mk-remix-radio-edit

r|t|c, Friday, 10 October 2014 10:04 (nine years ago) link

it's not quite as simple as bigbeat "rap sample &" tho, more like the phasing from ascetic grooves to a general tough linearity

r|t|c, Friday, 10 October 2014 10:16 (nine years ago) link

"Ey Yo" is marvellous.

The grooves on this stuff feel more Chicago house to me than other deep tech - though we're splitting hairs a bit here obv. Or maybe not so much Chicago house itself as a collective dream of Chicago house - strip off the raps (or not!) and these would be DJ T set fillers circa 2005.

Tim F, Friday, 10 October 2014 10:22 (nine years ago) link

this (great!!) tune gets play and is actually on get physical so

https://soundcloud.com/martin-ikin/loves-enemy-preview

something like adonis 'no way back' is def og shuffle material (also cf again the excellent article here Jackin' House partisans, convince a skeptic )

(through which i learned of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne_Shuffle !!!!!!!! originators!)

r|t|c, Friday, 10 October 2014 10:58 (nine years ago) link

https://soundcloud.com/toughlovemusic/amine-edge-dance-vs-tough

only tangentially related now but btw if u were asking cos of an actual dj set responsibility ... ur welcome

r|t|c, Friday, 10 October 2014 10:59 (nine years ago) link

xpost yeah I know we really were the originators!

Tim F, Friday, 10 October 2014 11:17 (nine years ago) link

Haha I missed the second last post, i meant recommendation of DJ sets to listen to, not recommendations for a DJ set (the closest thing I get to a DJ set these days is queuing up Londonbeat at parties).

Anyway I came back to say that this show is excellent:

https://soundcloud.com/yoshi-p-uk/de-contrenand-on-the-bassline-bully-show-with-yoshi-p-9-9-14

check this guy & his super fun show out! luvvit when the world sets about proving me rong. lil bit mighty moe/heartless, lil bit b-jaxx, lil bit ummm idk kissy sell out? (never paid him enough attention to know for sure tbh but maybe just more in terms of him being a mashup one-off rather than big deal scene leader). in general terms wrt "bass" as amorphous desiring vehicle this is the off the wall big beat revival (nb. brighton-based) og jackin vibe that other basshouse i've heard ignores or perhaps rather keeps closeted (also yes he plays chocolate puma there! so step BACK!)

De Contrebande's guest mix re-alerts me to the existence of My Nu Leng's "Masterplan", sounds so amazing rounding out the set here.

Tim F, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link

I read a soundcloud comment that described my nu leng as the "neurofunk of house'n'bass" (how ugly a phrase this must look to any outsider), which felt like it chimed in with my Dom & Roland reference upstairs. Maybe MNL are bass's Source Direct (see also "Knowing" on this tip).

Tim F, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link

(speaking of which D&R seems to be killing it again, but that's a whole 'nother story)

Tim F, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link

xp yeah defo... this doesnt exist for no reason (and to that end feels more like solution than novelty)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RW5Y-1jslw

'sleepless' is another good one, unmistakable ed rush & optical sfx (lol idk why u keep going for all the high-end concept neurofunk)

perhaps uncharitably i even tend to think they often qualify as n-funk per se more thru context and sympathetic remixing, as some of their unadorned bits are actually among the most funkless in the scene and therefore nudge them further down the timeline to pendulum-style moody bedroom headbangers by proxy (instro grime obv also has a part to play in that)

also reminded of kidnap kid saying his first cd was pendulum... heh this could easily now spin off into looking at the parallel shadowline dnb has been drawing alongside the rise of bass both pop and underground

r|t|c, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link

ooh while i remember i might as well take this opportunity to shout out the monstrous chris lorenzo mix of "you've been gone" tho... near as you'll ever get to a perfect uncanny horror audio recreation of the skeletons bit in jason & the argonauts

r|t|c, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link

Well yeah "Knowing" and "Sleepless" are def. more Ed Rush & Optical (as is a lot of DIstro material), "Masterplan" has got more of that ruptured drum kit vibe though. They seem very inconsistent though.

LOVE the Lorenzo remix but that almost goes without saying.

Tim F, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link

now fallen into ram trilogy teebee etc wormhole find help

r|t|c, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

https://soundcloud.com/projectalloutrecords/pvc-got-to-love

ooh

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 December 2014 12:27 (nine years ago) link

kinda like the peshay v photek collabo way back when got too carried away and now here's its mutant sewer baby all grown up

r|t|c, Sunday, 21 December 2014 12:38 (nine years ago) link

wowwwwwwwwww

Tim F, Sunday, 21 December 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link

let no beat tear asunder

deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 05:37 (nine years ago) link


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