TS: Billy Corgan vs. Stephen Malkmus

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i've got a bald head / my name is yul brynner / and i am a famous movie star

syro gyra (get bent), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link

would rather hear Corgan sing "Embassy Row" these days

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link

picturing corgan singing "fight this generation"

syro gyra (get bent), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:23 (nine years ago) link

Hey people, sisters and brothers, brothers and sisters, come on now. That means everybody just cool out.

Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link

the Range Life lyric is pretty mild, but then again he does lump the pumpkins in with stone temple pilots, which really is a shot in the back. either way, it had real consequences because Corgan forced Pavement off of Lollapalooza in 1994 by threatening not to play, after they had replaced Nirvana as the headliners.

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:37 (nine years ago) link

Malkmus was always so mean to Spiral Stairs.

malkmus was not at all mean to spiral stairs during the reunion shows, but i felt kinda bad because the former was basically a rock god and the latter basically looked like paul simon

mookieproof, Monday, 13 October 2014 23:41 (nine years ago) link

run them both through a wood chipper and use them as chum.

voted Corgan.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 October 2014 23:44 (nine years ago) link

Spiral Stairs basically sucks

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 October 2014 23:58 (nine years ago) link

I just want to remind everyone that this happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3tV8n-CVnA#t=22263

Pono For Pyros (zero of the signified), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 00:51 (nine years ago) link

what -- those jeans?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:06 (nine years ago) link

Can't see the image, is he wearing Bob Weir Daisy Duke jorts?

Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:13 (nine years ago) link

malkmus but i'm having a hard time coming up with strong feelings about this. i guess my main argument would be that most of the stuff corgan has done is completely embarassing but i'll always have time for cherub rock and rhinoceros.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:16 (nine years ago) link

is Weir Daisy Duke Jorts the follow-up to Wigwam Jagoff At Jackie Jormp-Jomp's?

some dude, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:16 (nine years ago) link

smashing pumpkins are that rare band where I really can't understand why anyone likes their music at all, it's just so horrible

there isn't a band on the planet I wouldn't vote for ahead of smashing pumpkins

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link

Afraid I'm not familiar with that particular opus.
(Xp)

Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:19 (nine years ago) link

tbh i think it's kind of cool when someone with a piercingly unpleasant voice, ridiculous pretensions and a toxic personality muscles their way to multi-million sales with a good ear for hooks. Malkmus got pretty much exactly where he was likely to land with his influences and skill set, Corgan's ascent was so unlikely as to be almost illogical.

some dude, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:23 (nine years ago) link

Take both these guys over Grohl's nice guy ubiquituous torchbearer of rock bullshit

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:27 (nine years ago) link

^this actually

Bobby Ono Bland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link

is grohl a secret asshole? hadn't heard

mookieproof, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:43 (nine years ago) link

well obviously. courntey love's "He’s just a sub-mediocre kind of guy who does this ‘nice guy’ nonsense” is just searing, but otm.

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:46 (nine years ago) link

xp

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:47 (nine years ago) link

malkmus was not at all mean to spiral stairs during the reunion shows, but i felt kinda bad because the former was basically a rock god and the latter basically looked like paul simon.

Man, imagine being the Garfunkel, but looking like the Simon.

pplains, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:54 (nine years ago) link

I was always on SS' side until I finally heard the full version of Nothing Ever Happens.

I mean, more like Wounded Cat, amirite?

pplains, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link

kannberg looked completely miserable by the end of the pavement reunion show i saw but oh well

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 02:07 (nine years ago) link

Corgan. Pavement are/were fucking wank.

Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 02:51 (nine years ago) link

I just feel it's easier to tell Malkmus to shut up.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:09 (nine years ago) link

There is something really nasty and insecure about Corgan's extroverts ways and I can't stand that, despite the fact that I've always enjoyed his desire to create a broad landscape as music and many other ideas behind the Smashing Pumpkins. So yeah sure Pavement didn't shoot for the moon the same way, but they hit the right notes with me.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:12 (nine years ago) link

Malkmus was always so mean to Spiral Stairs.

malkmus was not at all mean to spiral stairs during the reunion shows, but i felt kinda bad because the former was basically a rock god and the latter basically looked like paul simon

― mookieproof, Monday, 13 October 2014 23:41 (Yesterday) Permalink

thought at the reunion show I caught malkmus played half-heartedly whenever a SS number was up

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:21 (nine years ago) link

these reunion shows sound pretty much like exactly the ones I saw in the 90s.

pplains, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:23 (nine years ago) link

Well, minus the

http://i.imgur.com/3lZIgTF.jpg

pplains, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:25 (nine years ago) link

feel uncomfortable even having to cast a vote for one of these straight white male pieces of human trash, but malkmus

k3vin k., Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:34 (nine years ago) link

well obviously. courntey love's "He’s just a sub-mediocre kind of guy who does this ‘nice guy’ nonsense” is just searing

I'm far more pro-Courtney than most but I wouldn't take her opinions on people in Kurt's inner circle as gospel. I think people are just loath to admit that people who are famous at least partially for being "nice" might genuinely be nice because they don't like their output.

Simon H., Tuesday, 14 October 2014 04:40 (nine years ago) link

i think we can all agree that kurt would've hated the foo fighters (as they were after he wasn't, at least)

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 05:46 (nine years ago) link

A few of Grohl's ideas about rock purism are dumb as shit, but I have a friend who knows him and I believe her when she says he's genuinely nice and a pretty dope friend.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 05:48 (nine years ago) link

always thought he was a good guy, never dug his music and sort of resent him for being as popular as he is, but hey. great guy

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 05:58 (nine years ago) link

http://www.nme.com/news/courtney-love/80347

i believe every word

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 06:00 (nine years ago) link

paul simon is cute!

horseshoe, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 08:52 (nine years ago) link

feel like this is comparing neil young and don henley

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 09:23 (nine years ago) link

malkmus is definitely a henley, spot on

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 09:31 (nine years ago) link

TS: Malkmus vs. Madona

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 10:55 (nine years ago) link

corgy vs. malky

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 11:45 (nine years ago) link

could corgy pull off 'ege bamyasi' with such swag though?

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 11:48 (nine years ago) link

prob not - but the cars?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqJG-FEnzMY

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 11:49 (nine years ago) link

Rhinoceros, Mayonnaise, Soma, and Drown vs. sideman on American Water and Tanglewood Numbers.

Don't know which way I'll lean, honestly.

how's life, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 12:37 (nine years ago) link

ugh you had me goin there for a second dude

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 12:39 (nine years ago) link

i think we can all agree that kurt would've hated the foo fighters (as they were after he wasn't, at least)

This is the Kurt Cobain who can be heard covering Led Zeppelin in the early Nirvana tapes, right? Just checking!

A few of Grohl's ideas about rock purism are dumb as shit, but I have a friend who knows him and I believe her when she says he's genuinely nice and a pretty dope friend.

I have a friend in Alexandria, VA who has a professional relationship with Grohl and says the same.

bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 12:43 (nine years ago) link

Dave Grohl is rich and satisfied.

nostormo, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 12:45 (nine years ago) link

i think we can all agree that kurt would've hated the foo fighters (as they were after he wasn't, at least)

This is the Kurt Cobain who can be heard covering Led Zeppelin in the early Nirvana tapes, right? Just checking!

the foo fighters do not sound like zeppelin, they're alt MOR crap

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 12:50 (nine years ago) link

At this stage Dave Grohl's phonebook is more interesting than Dave Grohl

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 12:56 (nine years ago) link


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