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as bricks shower down upon our heads

Aimless, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link

why did we let this dick back in?

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link

didn't he hand u the olive branch of late

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link

anyone care to point to a problem besides not liking me?

mattresslessness, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link

if matt gets banned and we're stuck with fucking raccoon tanuki i may quit

clouds, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

basically otm

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

is it possible to stop trolling?
just like cold turkey?

i think it's worth a try.

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

anyone care to point to a problem besides not liking me?

― mattresslessness, Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:15 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

glad you saw a place to roll back in the MRA thread

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

rip Men's Rights movement thread, i just recently clicked on you and you made me feel better about all the other threads.

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link

is it possible to stop trolling?
just like cold turkey?

i think it's worth a try.

― cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:29 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sure, just asking for help from people to bump this thread if you see a relapse.

mattresslessness, Thursday, 16 October 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link

anyone care to point to a problem besides not liking me?

― mattresslessness, Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:15 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha fuck off and die

― mattresslessness, Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:37 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Evan, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:10 (nine years ago) link

you'd think all of us would have learned by now

example (crüt), Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:19 (nine years ago) link

just one person learning by now would probably be sufficient

Aimless, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link

be the change u want 2 see, man

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

clouds otmfm foadiud

龜✊ (wins), Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link

ya

fwiw i thought matt had been in p inspiring form since last return

local eire man (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link

at least wins elides his aggressive ill feelings

Aimless, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link

never not in inspiring form

the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:39 (nine years ago) link

i don't see why we can't all get along, if everyone joined forces we could rule for ten thousand years.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

aw. evan, i'm definitely sorry to you for that whole attack. inappropriate. might as well say i'm also sorry to everyone i upset with the 'get raped' b.s. in the woody allen thread. totally inappropriate.

it's a repeat thing and it's not working for me. i've committed to work on this irl, ilx shouldn't be an exception. la lechera nailed it really, thanks.

mattresslessness, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link

Thanks Matt.

Evan, Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link

for all those who don't get why matt p is an essential presence here, I will c&p an example of his brilliance

i see what mordy is talking about, a particular kind of pride in load-bearing physical or social work, of being a provider, and sense its effects on a lot of men i encounter. or maybe just men who are close to me. i think about it re: my own father a lot lately. it's sort of the interface of capitalism to family in my experience, a dosing of everyone through patient zero. of course i don't think this experience can be cleanly separated along gender lines or talked about independently of class or race. while acknowledging that the experience of women / trans / immigrant people who do this kind of work is much more precarious and in need of a basic safety net that i most certainly have, i still think it's important to think about how these structures affect us in our own privileged lives so we can do the right math and change our actions in various ways. it seems that the kind of resentment rife in MRA types is a symptom of the inability to do this, and rather than asking "why" of themselves they're blaming others reifying the same ugly power structures already in place that do the damage to them just as it does the damage to the already powerless. but privilege pissing contests (sorry) are helpful only to a point. maybe a question to ask is, how do we transfer pride in the kind of self-sacrifice men do for the families they simultaneously shut themselves off from to pride in being accountable to these inter-tribal relationships as such, plus reestablishing some kind of basic pride in courting relationships with others outside their tribe? (realize this is 'there' in other cultures. why should 'white western' culture be different? why not stop treating it with the exceptionality it is always making for itself?). pride in enlarging one's family, basically, in being ambassadors, not conquerors. how do we harness men's sense of gender identity to make gentle guardianship, not against other groups of people as such, but against dangerous behavior a priority? what would that mean? there seem to be lots of ways men can be (limited, non-omniscient) positive and non-violent gendered actors in socially productive ways where values are inclusivity, diversity, respect, mutual learning, wildness, the other, the unknown, the mysterious, the culturally significant, etc.

i found the question in this piece (http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/10/15/male_allies_confusing_for_feminism.html) on being strong, but not to dominate, an interesting one that was maybe dismissed too quickly by the author. obviously physical strength as a socially positive trait for men in white supremacist patriarchal capitalist society is one that is in dire need of being balanced with a "ton" of other traits that men are failing at. but i don't think it needs to be dismissed, just qualified in a number of ways, that strength for strength's sake is actually ok and good, it doesn't have to be harnessed to any psychotically 'productive' domineering force, it can be inward-looking, it should be available to and encouraged for women, for queer and trans people alike. men should be able to take pride in various aspects of their bodies, which have properties that exist nebulously along a gender spectrum. one shouldn't be diminished just because others need burnishing. in general i think we should be more honest and encouraging about what we do value, what is building and sustaining us, and use that to ask how we can keep doing so only much better for more people with the courage to change behavior that is destroying ourselves and others. xps

― mattresslessness, Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link

nine months pass...

For my final ILX episode --- nurse jabbing a needle filled with I don't know what into my arm ---- old friends arriving to say bye or is it just my imagination ---- clips from old episodes or are they just dreams? ---- garble garble huggle buggle --- um something something AP LAUSE S GN --- a bite of a nabisco nutter butter ---- my highest ratings yet? no, just a crazy old guy shivering in an abandoned strip mall ---- a final goodbye as unconsciousness blackens my thoug

― Vic Perry, Monday, August 10, 2015 2:40 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

*farts*

― e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Monday, August 10, 2015 2:42 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the late great, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 02:05 (eight years ago) link

seven months pass...

So mattresslessness just gave up after the spotify thing? I hope he's well, wherever he is.

how's life, Friday, 11 March 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link

what spotify thing

gr8080, Thursday, 17 March 2016 01:11 (eight years ago) link

I miss him

marcos, Thursday, 17 March 2016 01:20 (eight years ago) link

R I P
Rest in peace
First they get the coffin
then they get the wreath

the late great, Thursday, 17 March 2016 02:40 (eight years ago) link

come back matt p

the late great, Sunday, 20 March 2016 03:44 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

i thought they were both some corny-ass bullshit when I started the poll.

― kkvgz, Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:07 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and i've always thought you were boring and a little sour.

― enfuque (Matt P), Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:23 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had a strong memory of the time I became aware of Matt P's existence, but couldn't remember the exact thread until now.

how's life, Friday, 10 June 2016 08:22 (seven years ago) link

i enjoy his techno mixes

de l'asshole (flopson), Friday, 10 June 2016 13:25 (seven years ago) link

got a spotify link?

frogbs, Friday, 10 June 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link


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