They Will Not Go Quietly: The Official ILM Track-By-Track DON 'n' GLENN Listening Thread

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I like this song better than I should, because Stevie really elevates it - Don's presence doesn't bother me overmuch. Would like to hear it as a Nicks - Buckingham duet tbh.

bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link

for me this was a "You had to be there" type of song

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 14:09 (nine years ago) link

I've always hated this song. And I am mad at this thread for making we walk around caterwauling Axl's vox on "I Will Not Go Quietly."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link

"Leather and Lace": This is one of those radio staples I just somehow missed--pretty sure I didn't actually hear it until about 6 years ago. What stands out for me is how sonically Jessie & Waylon this is, what with the blend of acoustics, electric piano, and so subtle you'd think they weren't even there drums (just snare rim & kick)--just erase Stevie & Don and it's ready for their vocals. Remember too that Waylon covered "Gold Dust Woman" AND "Take It To The Limit". As is, it's definitely the third best Belladonna single.

DON: It was a wonderful experience to launch both Stevie's and my own solo career with "Leather and Lace". Given our history, and how it seemed like nothing was working right in our then-present lives, it was quite cathartic for us to get together and sing a song those unique problems we were facing.

GLENN: What I don't get is how I never got a chance with Stevie: She and Don had a thing, and she had JD [Souther] and Joe [Walsh]...I mean, Jow FUCKING Walsh but not "The Teen King" himself? Leather? Lace? I was down for whatever. It's not like she didn't know where to find me or anything.

DON: [snickering] Well, yeah.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

wait she was with JD

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link

From the Stevie/Courtney Love interview:

SN: Yeah. So I started going out with him. And this is not popular. Sure, Lindsey and I are totally broken up, I have every right in the world to go out with people, but...I spend most of my time with the band, and it’s not real conducive to having a relationship. So, I went out with Don for awhile. I went out with [Eagles songwriter] J.D. Souther for awhile. We had an incredible time.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link

now I'm wondering if JD went to bed with Geffen because why not

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link

The start of this thread coincided with the onset of norovirus infection (or some similar gastrointestinal horror) in Jeff and me. Coincidence???????? Or do Don Henley and Glen Frey make us want to barf?

Anyway, I forgot I Found Somebody existed, and thought I'd never heard it, until the "and she loves me in the midnight hour!" line and then I remembered it. I seem to recall this being one of those songs that was always on the radio, whether you liked it or not.

I always liked Leather and Lace, but now I can't listen to DH's part without cringing.

carl agatha, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link

I used to hate Leather & Lace but the melody just captivates me so much now i find it kind of undeniable? i am embarrassed to say that I really love it!!!

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link

leather and lace is a terrible song that i will always be happy to hear

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 02:52 (nine years ago) link

it needs you to love it
it needs you today

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 02:58 (nine years ago) link

"Remember how much people liked 'I Can't Tell You Why?' I know I'm no Tim Schmidt, but can we get one like that on here?"

bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 13:22 (nine years ago) link

Random thoughts:

- This song is easily 20% slower than I remembered it being. "Plodding" would be generous.
- Love how the video cuts at 1:00 from "Glen's eyebrows have ALL THE FEELS" to "ASS SHOT!!!"
- This song was a lot better done as Prince's "The Beautiful Ones." Here the sentiment is just repugnant.

bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 13:26 (nine years ago) link

"Remember how much people liked 'I Can't Tell You Why?' I know I'm no Tim Schmidt, but can we get one like that on here?"

lol otm

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 13:28 (nine years ago) link

No one can pop a collar in the snow like Glenn. NO ONE.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 13:38 (nine years ago) link

- This song is easily 20% slower than I remembered it being. "Plodding" would be generous.

good lord yes. This is "mixer at the senior center" speed.

the "I Can't Tell You Why" comparisons are OTM, to the point where I wonder if Glenn/Tempchin originally wrote it with Schmidt in mind (Glenn can't quite hit the high notes: see the strained "your mind" at 1:41)

"Lady In Red" seems its natural successor, though to be fair "Careless Whisper" seems to take a bit from it too

col, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 13:53 (nine years ago) link

Oh ugh oh man I hate this song. I hated it when it came out and now that I look at the "nice guy anthem" lyrics I hate it even more.

I am LOLing pretty hard at Glenn singing menacingly at the woman on the bed though. I'm not sure threat-singing is the way to convince her to stay with the one who loves her, Glen!

carl agatha, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link

can Glenn "do" menacingly?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

yet a couple of you on Facebook admitted to liking this dirge.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link

That's part of why it's so hilarious.

Although the whole song and video has an angry men's rights activist vibe that definitely has menace potential.

carl agatha, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link

that attitude goes all the way back to "Take It Easy." It's what makes the Eagles so loathsome.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link

xp to Alfred: I've hated this piece of dreck since I was 10, when it was on constant rotation on seemingly every Virginia radio station

col, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link

think DJs liked it in part because the sax intro is so damned long they could spend like 45 seconds on chatter, listener requests, etc. before Glenn kicks in

col, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link

hey guys, what have i missed so far?

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 14:40 (nine years ago) link

"The One You Love": Can I just bypass the song and talk about how much I'm lovin' Glenn's cheesy videos? I'll wait. It's funny how a lot of the elements of this song (the sax, electric piano, glacier pacing, orchestration, druggy vocal calmness) would fit right in on Random Access Memories. but this is Glenn were talking about, so his combination of this stuff doesn't quite work. Could stand to have some key or tempo change going into the chorus, something to make it go bigger. I foresee much rough sailing ahead on days we peruse Mr. Frey's Yacht Rock.

The video: Where do I begin? How about the ending, with the camera pushing back revealing the obvious artificialness of it all! The 'other man' and the video babe making out...in a Mercedes convertible...in the snow...as Glenn plays bystander! All those black soundstages! SAXMAN!

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link

I can imagine him at the electric piano shouting across the room, "Yo, Henley, where's your bit? I'm stuck."

The room is empty.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link

Tempchin, on speaker phone: "just put in some more sax there, Glenn"

col, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link

Meanwhile Henley faxes lyrics to Danny Kooch, with annotations and demands for "Backing Tracks Next Week...Bitch".

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

tomorrow!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link

The guitar/synth combination tips is into L.A. New Wave, and for a few bars I thought it was not a palate cleanser after Frey's meathead rock but an advance over the Eagles. The lyrics let it down though. As usual with this dude, the tempo drags too.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 October 2014 11:07 (nine years ago) link

*I thought it was not only

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 October 2014 11:07 (nine years ago) link

I like this one! A bit. Well, the verses: the refrain's soggy and draggy. Lyric is basically the same gross scenario as "the One You Love." But there's some fun stuff going on, too: the synth riff that's a bit like Duran Duran's "The Chauffeur," the poor man's Eno synth solo and some of Don's phrasings remind me of Get Happy-era Costello. Don's thudding drumming does its usual damage (wisely, he used Jeff Porcaro on most of this record)

backing vocals by Max Gronenthal, notable for releasing an album called Who Is Max Gronenthal? The Answer Is In This Album.

col, Thursday, 23 October 2014 12:12 (nine years ago) link

LP cover is your standard 1982 MTV set. Just need something on fire:

http://www.donhenleyonline.com/images/DHenleyICSS02.jpg

col, Thursday, 23 October 2014 12:20 (nine years ago) link

besides the match, of course. also, breaking glass and dry ice.

col, Thursday, 23 October 2014 12:21 (nine years ago) link

such a wonderful person
but he's got problems

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 October 2014 13:02 (nine years ago) link

the era when Don could've been Gary Hart's stunt double

col, Thursday, 23 October 2014 13:18 (nine years ago) link

Don's vox are so perfectly suited to '80s synth-rock schlock.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 October 2014 13:35 (nine years ago) link

Glenn's vocals are perfectly suited for a Honda salesman jailed for lewd and lascivious.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 October 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link

Butt-head's Dad: Hey, one of you bastards got a match?
Butt-head: Uh, yeah. My butt and your, uh, butt. Uh huh huh

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 October 2014 13:37 (nine years ago) link

Glenn would bring out the books of his Honda dealership, show how successful he's been, then tell the judge to fuck off.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 October 2014 13:38 (nine years ago) link

Frey's the better musician but the more generic songwriter. Henley undercuts the often surprising arrangements with TED Talk crankiness. What a pair.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 October 2014 13:45 (nine years ago) link

You've got the brawn, I've got the brains, let's make lots of ...

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 October 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link

0-0 on both counts

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 October 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ozeagle/media/Solo%20Years/RockHard.jpg.html

"Wait, you saying I'm the smart one?"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 October 2014 13:52 (nine years ago) link

Boo. Picture Glenn lifting weights.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 October 2014 13:53 (nine years ago) link

already posted upthread

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 October 2014 13:54 (nine years ago) link

I've made my peace with "You Belong to the City," despite his letting the sax cover up for a half written song.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 February 2016 01:10 (eight years ago) link

The Glenn tributes in the new RS are pretty good. Apparently in his final days he was writing material for a solo album and (I shit you not) working on an Eagles songbook musical for Broadway.

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 February 2016 01:18 (eight years ago) link

Also: I went to a record show last week, and one of the dealers had displayed a sealed vinyl copy of Soul Searchin' for $12. Didn't buy, still livin' right.

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 February 2016 01:23 (eight years ago) link

it's the politics of contraband

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 February 2016 01:33 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

In The Wild: Glenn's "True Love" on a Yacht-y muzak channel in an Italian restaurant.

Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 16 April 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

kick us when we're down

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link

Chaddie Can't Read

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link

gasface

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 August 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link

LOL headline

http://www.twincities.com/2016/08/25/don-henley-lightens-up-a-bit-during-state-fair-performance/

Those fans entered the venue to find numerous signs warning not to shoot video or photographs, and security told those who tried anyway that if they didn’t stop, they’d be escorted out of the Grandstand. (This isn’t a new State Fair policy, I was told, but a demand of Henley, age 69.)

Henley is notorious for his grim demeanor on stage and rarely felt the need to look like he was enjoying himself during the high-priced Eagles reunion tours. Thursday, though, he actually showed a little enthusiasm now and again, and even cracked the occasional smile. At one point, he was talking about how it was “fun” to tour with a full horn section and said, somewhat unconvincingly, “That’s what I’m all about these days.”

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

love the jab about his age

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

Don Henley And The Horny Horns

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link

love the jab about his age

GLEN: Used to be every night of the week...now it's a fucking age.

DON: Well, yeah.

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

worth reviving for some choice Don: http://montrealgazette.com/entertainment/music/qa-don-henley-on-growing-up-in-cass-county-eagles-and-coping-with-the-loss-of-glenn-frey

MG: Were you OK with the Ataris changing “Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac” to “Black Flag sticker” in their Boys of Summer cover?

DH: Not really. No, not really. But I wasn’t upset enough to do anything about it. I just went, “OK. Fine.” And if you noticed, we haven’t heard much from the Ataris since then. You know that story, right, what happened to them?

MG: I can’t remember.

DH: I mean, they wrote some songs, very poorly — they were not very good songwriters — and they put out an album, and the only song that people would want to hear when they did a concert was Boys of Summer. And the lead singer apparently got so angry about it that he had a T-shirt made that said “Who the f— is Don Henley?”, or “Who the hell is Don Henley?” or something like that. And he would apparently wear that on stage (laughs) … and I thought that was really childish. But it was funny at the same time, because it was a clear message to them that they needed to work on their craftsmanship.

col, Friday, 23 September 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link

Most people mellow with age. Not Henley. Henley's like a finely aged bottle of bleach.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 September 2016 23:02 (seven years ago) link

actually, I thought he was more human and approachable than I've read in years

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 September 2016 00:37 (seven years ago) link

...and all it took was the death of Glenn Frey.

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:01 (seven years ago) link

six months pass...

Just heard "Working It" on the local Community College Rock Station. Yikes

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 13 April 2017 01:02 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...
one year passes...

self-isolate after any contact with Don imo

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 March 2020 12:27 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Crockett and Tubbs recognized that if you wanted to bring down the world’s most dangerous drug dealers you’re gonna want to form an alliance with Glenn Frey. pic.twitter.com/0pdpulfpUe

— Super 70s Sports (@Super70sSports) April 8, 2022

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 9 April 2022 02:38 (two years ago) link

Henley channeling Donald Trump in that interview.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 April 2022 16:24 (two years ago) link

ten months pass...

Roach joins the Criterion Collection!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmolOw2WUCg

(This video is an extra on their Thelma & Louise release)

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

Smugglers Blues co written by Temchin? Makes sense I guess , I wouldn’t expect Glenn to be capable of this level of wordplay

Diarrhea of a Madman (calstars), Saturday, 29 July 2023 22:22 (nine months ago) link


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