Help, I'm trapped in an ivory tower! Or "what the fuck am i getting myself into with this academia stuff"

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I think people used to say three years but, yeah, I think it's been pushed up to five these days. My friend just got a TT position this fall five years after finishing iirc. (He has had infinite tolerance for crisscrossing the continent for term positions and residencies.)

(Sorry to hear, j.)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 14:45 (nine years ago) link

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EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 14:45 (nine years ago) link

So yeah, two years left, I guess?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link

I've actually taken to puttng the exact date of my conferral (dec 30) on my cv to sort of bump mine up a bit. No longer being eligible for a few postdocs this year was an eye opener.

ryan, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link

i wonder to what extent things would be different if those who spent 5 (or more) years in the wilderness were picked up for TT positions more often.

ryan, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link

so

i declined the 'offer' on grounds of not it being feasible, reliable, etc., and dude writes back, 'thank you for writing to me, and being frank. you are absolutely right'.

then he comes back with 'what if we could come up with a 4/4 for $32k for the academic year starting next fall only?'

: /

j., Wednesday, 22 October 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link

you should say yes

also isnt there some other kind of work you could/want to do?

≖_≖ (Lamp), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link

come back with "start in the spring or gtfo" imo.

ryan, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link

i think he may have meant, the shit spring plus this (closer to, but not completely) full load for next year.

32k is a slight improvement on their standard adjunct rate but it's still well below full-time (which 4/4 is there) compensation at their own institution or in the area. they're one of those charming schools whose aaup salary survey says they have no one at instructor rank (one, at the whole university, actually) because they don't actually give any of the many instructors they employ full-time loads (or benefits, which may have something to do with why - not sure if they're one of the places that made an obamacare policy change).

lamp, i don't know about want - i like editing ok, i was once a computer programmer and could probably take to that given time to reacclimate (given a chance), got a math degree too and some long-ago competence working technically - but my sporadic attempts to even GET other kinds of work in the past several years have been pretty thankless. i'm experienced, skilled, talented, but not in any literal outside-world terms (recruiter on the phone, trying to sell me on a cold-calling sales job: 'yeah… i wasn't really sure what you were trying to do there on your resume'), and because of that apparently too much of a hiring gamble / cost burden. i guess i could try harder to find a place in business, but i so am not cut out for that, so i think i'm right not to.

j., Wednesday, 22 October 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link

haha, i edited that over a length of time - i think it is in fact a full load.

j., Wednesday, 22 October 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link

actually, they put permanent FT at 4/4 and 'academic staff' FT at 5/5, probably to reflect the slight additional committee/advising type work permanent staff have, but of course that makes attaining 100% (for various pro-rating purposes) harder to do on the temp staff scale too, which might have something to do with why they're reported as having ~0 full-time instructors despite using instructors.

anyway, i talked to my parents, and they started looking into the possibility of getting me into an old beater or something to commute to this job so i wouldn't have to pick up and move there under the unreliable circumstances. and once they got a clearer picture of this newer possible offer, and how it compared to the area (about 20-25k short of positions with comparable responsibilities for comparable qualifications and experience, and maybe even another 25k short in total compensation) my dad said about the most complimentary thing i've heard about my academic career in forever, that i was worth more than that and if they weren't willing to pay me what i was worth they should just forget about it. my parents both work for a convenience store chain in the area now, the same kind of shit work they've had ever since the financial crisis bankrupted their mom-and-pop business, and they pointed out that brand-new assistant store managers with only high school diplomas and no real experience at the job made more than i had been offered. and they didn't think that was right, so even if it meant not grabbing for something rather than nothing, it was worth it to demand a real show of respect for my work.

which is where i was leaning anyway. but it was nice to hear. so i counter-offered basically asking for a 1-year visitor's position instead of a full-time temp's position. i doubt there's anything the faculty can do about it, and i doubt the school will give a shit, but i feel good.

j., Friday, 24 October 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link

thanks for updating us. and good for you!

ryan, Friday, 24 October 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

anyone here ever refused to give a letter of recommendation before (and not on grounds of i dunno not knowing the student well enough)?

a few years back i happened to be assisting on a class, with supervision, and i got a student who was trying his darnedest but only ever turning in totally atrocious work. with my supervisor's blessing basically ended up passing him out of charity, particularly since he was close to graduation, but we never really managed to come out and say to him, this work is off the radar as far as basic competency goes.

now he's applying to graduate school, apparently to go into a teaching-related field. : /

j., Tuesday, 11 November 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

yea definitely seems like a good idea to refuse to give it

marcos, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link

thing is he used to be a factory worker and since graduating (besides still that probably) he's been doing at-risk- and nontraditional-student mentoring, apparently successfully… so it does seem like he's doing some good?

on the other hand if any of his teachers ever puts their foot down he seems fairly likely to bomb graduate school, rack up lots of debt, etc

j., Tuesday, 11 November 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link

aw I'd be tempted to write it anyway--seeing as a lot of students in that position are simply trying to acquire the required 3-4 letters from whatever suitable authoritative sources they can find. would figure that if his work is as bad as you say then a lukewarm letter isn't gonna make a difference in the end wrt to getting accepted. but then of course I totally understand your concern with putting your name on it. maybe ask to see something more recent from him?

ryan, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link

i'd sit down and talk with him first and then write an honest (and short) letter highlighting his strengths while avoiding the parts that i couldn't honestly recommend

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link

i gave a luke warm (i.e. awful) one once. i made sure she understood that's what it would be like, and she still wanted it, so *shrug*

caek, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link

yeah I've told a student that they probably should find another referee but if they really need one from me I can write it

legit new threat wrt to a norman invasion (seandalai), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link

jesus christ, it looks like i might actually have a couple courses to cover come late january.

now i just have to figure out how the fuck to teach philosophy online

j., Monday, 17 November 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Bullying-to-death story from Imperial is horrible and scary: http://www.dcscience.net/2014/12/01/publish-and-perish-at-imperial-college-london-the-death-of-stefan-grimm/

death in Skegness (seandalai), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 00:14 (nine years ago) link

still no idea of the cause?

j., Wednesday, 3 December 2014 02:51 (nine years ago) link

I haven't seen it stated anywhere, just lots of insinuation.

death in Skegness (seandalai), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 09:54 (nine years ago) link

http://www.universityaffairs.ca/opinion/speculative-diction/stressful-systems/

reflection on the case, no new facts

j., Tuesday, 9 December 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.haujournal.org/index.php/hau/article/view/hau4.3.007/1598

Anthropology and the rise of the professional-managerial class
David Graeber

Abstract

Many of the internal changes within anthropology as a discipline—particularly the "postmodern turn" of the 1980s—can only be understood in the context of broader changes in the class composition of the societies in which university departments exist, and, in particular, the role of the university in the reproduction of a professional-managerial class that has come to displace any working-class elements in what pass for mainstream "left" political parties. Reflexivity, and what I call "vulgar Foucauldianism," while dressed up as activism, seem instead to represent above all the consciousness of this class. In its place, the essay proposes a politics combining support for social movements and a prefigurative politics in the academic sphere.

j., Tuesday, 30 December 2014 00:14 (nine years ago) link

aka let's pretend the 70s and 80s never happened?

ryan, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 01:42 (nine years ago) link

what even happened then

j., Tuesday, 30 December 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link

u didn't miss much

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 04:40 (nine years ago) link

omg i'm reading that essay now we should discuss it on some other thread because this one feels inappropriate for me just complaining about how wrong it gets everything. his entire description of the "neoliberal" process in the 80s is just effectively making shit up, and leads me to suspect that he actually doesn't understand anything about the 50s and 60s at all.

ahahaha i mean: "In this sense what’s happened to universities since the 1970s—very unevenly, but pretty much everywhere—has represented a fundamental break of a kind we have not seen in eight hundred years."

he should read one (1) clark kerr or something jesus

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 04:47 (nine years ago) link

does he even know what the free speech movement was protesting christ

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 04:47 (nine years ago) link

maybe the graeber 80s is an alternate universe, let us not forget:

Apple Computers is a famous example: it was founded by (mostly Republican) computer engineers who broke from IBM in Silicon Valley in the 1980s, forming little democratic circles of twenty to forty people with their laptops in each other’s garages.

iatee, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link

do i get a cash prize for spotting a typo (last sentence of the second footnote)

these academiatricians don't know NOTHING

♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link

I'm tipping toward the "he's mostly correct" position on the negligible political impact of academia in general over the past few decades, and his not very nice answer why (I'm not in anthro so I can't speak to particulars in that department). But ultimately his last sentence is very positive.

I'm cheering when he says "reflection [on one's power and privilege] takes the typically American puritanical form, in which members of said elite compete with one another for moral superiority based on claims of greater cognizance of their own compromised nature." Yep, having sat through hours of such reflection, yep yep yep.

Vic Perry, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link

there's an irony that seems remarkably unremarked on in how proponents of long-view historicism manage to always assert that now (for whatever value of now is current) is the moment when everything is changing in a way that has never been seen before.

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link

Invoking the dynamic of American Puritanism would appear to be an endorsement of long term continuity.

Vic Perry, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link

i'm talking about all the other stuff in the piece not that point in particular

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

His idea that Foucauldians are projecting the professional context of academia onto their subjects of study strikes me as rather glib. Too easy a knockdown to be convincing.

He mentions Scheper-Hughes. She makes what I think are some similar points, that in "perilous times" perfectionism is an unaffordable luxury. This seems to me to be a correct take on the the drawbacks of "vulgar Foucauldianism":

What is the value of ethnography in such a sad contemporary context? Many young anthropologists today, sensitized by Michel Foucault (1975, 1980, 1982)) on "power/knowledge," have come to think of ethnography and fieldwork as unwarranted intrusions into the lives of vulnerable, threatened peoples. The anthropological interview has been linked to the medieval "inquisitional confession" (Ginsberg 1988) through which church examiners extracted "truth" from their naive and naturally "heretical" peasant flocks. We hear of anthropological observation as a hostile act that reduces our "subjects" to mere "objects" of our discriminating, incriminating scientific gaze. Consequently, some young anthropologists have given up the practice of descriptive ethnography altogether in preference for distanced and highly formalized methods of discourse analysis or purely quantitative of models. Others concern themselves with macrolevel analyses of world economic systems in which the experiential and subjective experience of human lives is left aside. Still others engage in an obsessive, self-reflexive hermeneutics in which the self, not the other, becomes the subject of anthropological inquiry.

I grow weary of these postmodernist critiques, and given the perilous times in which we and our subjects live, I am inclined toward a compromise that calls for the practice of a "good enough" ethnography. The anthropologist is an instrument of cultural translation that is necessarily flawed and biased. We cannot rid ourselves of the cultural self that we bring with us into the field any more than we can disown the eyes, ears, and skin through which we take in our intuitive perceptions about the new and strange world we have entered. Nonetheless, like every other master artisan (and I dare say that at our best we are this), we struggle to do the best we can with the limited resources we have at hand--our ability to listen carefully, empathically, and compassionately.

I think of some of the subjects of this book for whom anthropology is not a hostile gaze but rather an opportunity to tell a part of their life story. And though I can hear dissonant voices in the background protesting just this choice of words, I believe there is a still a role for the ethnographer-writer in giving voice, as best she can, to those who have been silenced, as have the people of the Alto by political and economic oppression and illiteracy and as have their children by hunger and premature death. So despite the mockery that Clifford Geertz (1988) made of anthropological "I-witnessing," I believe there is still value in attempting to "speak truth to power." I recall how my Alto friends grabbed and pushed and pulled, jostling for attention, saying "Don't forget me; I want my turn to speak. That one has had your attention long enough!" Or saying, "Tá vendo? Tá ouvindo?"--"Are you listening, really understanding me?" Or taking my hand and placing it on their abdomens and demanding, "Touch me, feel me, here. Did you ever feel anything so swollen?" Or "Write that down in your notes, now. I don't want you to forget it." Seeing, listening, touching, recording, can be, if done with care and sensitivity, acts of fraternity and sisterhood, acts of solidarity. Above all, they are acts of recognition. Not to look, not to touch, not to record, can be the hostile act, the act of indifference and of turning away.

jmm, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 18:15 (nine years ago) link

http://sociologicalimagination.org/archives/15954?utm_content=buffer46da0

'foucault kids' sigh

j., Saturday, 3 January 2015 23:42 (nine years ago) link

that's an awfully loaded term for describing what simply seems to be interdisciplinary work! maybe I'm missing something.

ryan, Sunday, 4 January 2015 02:25 (nine years ago) link

i think there was supposed to be a slight implication of quality-independent-thought too

j., Sunday, 4 January 2015 02:29 (nine years ago) link

tbh that basically describes my quasi-interdisciplinary dissertation. a lot of self-imposed and self-directed "training" as well.

ryan, Sunday, 4 January 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link

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𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 January 2015 23:51 (nine years ago) link

fun shirt

Vote in the ILM EOY Poll! (seandalai), Friday, 9 January 2015 23:53 (nine years ago) link

the job market is pretty damn grim this year. not that that's news of course.

ryan, Friday, 9 January 2015 23:55 (nine years ago) link

i feel like my barely suppressed disdain for this profession and the people in it (and by extension myself for "wanting" to be a part of it) must be still be coming through in my cover letters. gotta work on that.

ryan, Friday, 9 January 2015 23:59 (nine years ago) link

the job market isn't grim for "top candidates" from "top schools"

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 10 January 2015 00:31 (nine years ago) link

ha, yeah i keep thinking about what i could have done differently and top of the list every time is "go to a more prestigious school."

ryan, Saturday, 10 January 2015 01:24 (nine years ago) link

jesus christ, it looks like i might actually have a couple courses to cover come late january.

now i just have to figure out how the fuck to teach philosophy online

― j., Monday, November 17, 2014 1:52 PM (1 month ago)

monday!! they can't cancel that shit on me NOW

j., Saturday, 10 January 2015 01:35 (nine years ago) link

did you figure out how the fuck to teach philosophy online?

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 10 January 2015 01:46 (nine years ago) link


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