the CA county map provides a very clear hint to where northern california ends and southern california begins:
http://www.cagenweb.com/plumas/map_files/image007.gif
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link
SFian: We HATE those Angelinos!
LAian: Who did you say hates us?
― meta pro lols (libcrypt), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Shakey mentioned it above, but it's worth repeating
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yreka,_California
In November 1941, Yreka was designated as the capital of the proposed State of Jefferson, a secession movement along the Oregon and California border that has gained cultural traction in the following decades.
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link
That's awesome. I never realized the straight line.
Pretty close, too.
― Barackin' In the Free World (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Kingds/Tulare/Inyo seem more SoCal to me, but I can accept being forced to include them for this exercise.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
the state of jefferson is a retarded idea. it would have the population of oakland.
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link
That county map gives norcal a majority of the state. To compensate, socal can have Fresno County and East.
― unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link
It would be more retarded if it had Oakland's actual population ... including its civil servants.
― unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess the key for me here is where would i want to live in socal outside of l.a., and where would i want to live in norcal outside of the bay area? the answers would be nowhere and several places, respectively, so i choose norcal.
― The Prices are .......... VERY AFFORDABLE!!! (omar little), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link
No way. Parts of Fresno Co. extend further north than Southern San Francisco Co.
We won't take Fresno Co. without compensation.
― Barackin' In the Free World (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
santa barbara? san luis obispo? san diego? pomona?
Options abound down here, man!
― Barackin' In the Free World (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Hahahaha! Troll award for today!
lolol i was thinking more of the inland counties and of the fact that the bay area is still south of sacto (which is often referred to as central valley even if it is clearly in the northern half of the state). i've only lived in california for three years though, sorry to be a gabbneb.
― NYSE:JAH (get bent), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Fixed:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8042/cali.png
― meta pro lols (libcrypt), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
xp BLAM: we'll keep Madera county, how's that?
― unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
hahaha great map
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link
COALINGA VS NORCO
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link
well even if i concede SLO and SB to an extent, i think the hideousness of southeastern cali still tips it in favor of norcal
― The Prices are .......... VERY AFFORDABLE!!! (omar little), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link
I'll take it to the committee. 7 pm, No. 2 lane of the 405, just south of the 10. Can everyone make it?
Hmmm. If libcrypt's newest representation is correct, I claim Mendocino Co. as a colony. They have a few good breweries up there.
― Barackin' In the Free World (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link
totally not down with libcrypt's map!! Avenue of the Giants! Humboldt weed! Klamath River!
― Roberto Mussolini (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link
nobody wants to claim san berdoo/riverside/imperial... can't they be their own state?
― NYSE:JAH (get bent), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
pomona BLAM are you fucking serious!? I moved AWAY from there!
― Roberto Mussolini (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
My knowledge of north-northern Cali is sparse, so I'm sure I have perp'd many an injustice with my insouciant map.
― meta pro lols (libcrypt), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link
actually the recent election maps are pretty O_o to what is Norcal vs. Socal.
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link
nobody wants to claim san berdoo
Fogerty!
― Roberto Mussolini (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Sellout.
― Barackin' In the Free World (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link
if you order a burrito and it has rice in it you are in northern california
― Duderonomy 1:69-420 (iiiijjjj), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Gotta give credit where its due...he's an East Bay guy.
― Barackin' In the Free World (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Fogerty namedrops the weirdest places in Cali
― Roberto Mussolini (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link
"if you order a burrito and it has rice in it you are in northern california"
Pretty sure I've had rice in a San Diego burrito, but it's been a while.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
most of our burritos have rice. i believe the burritos-sans-rice is a san diego thing. (and by extension a mexico thing.)
xpost
― NYSE:JAH (get bent), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Alright...here's an idea.
First, whats the line of demarcation?
I would argue that Carmel/Monterey is where Northern California starts. Any takers/dissenters?
― Barackin' In the Free World (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Man, I am totes wading into religious territory here, but I have heard that the taqueria concept is a Norcal, or specifically SF, one. If I'm wrong, please don't tear me up like a chimp on xanax.
― meta pro lols (libcrypt), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
I already made it official up-thread!
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Because, clearly...most of the diehard NorCalians want NorCal to be ANYTHING north of Ventura.
― Barackin' In the Free World (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
above SLO = norcal and below = socal
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
gonna vote as a tourist and cali lover not a resident and say
redwoods np, lassen, yosemite>>>>>>>>>>>>>>death valley, joshua tree
― cathlamet wa (jergins), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
joshua tree >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else in the state
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
better?
http://21grand.org/cali.png
― unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Ned, you are from the Maryland/Missouri of California.
My dad more than me but I am a spiritual citizen of the place.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
xp Hahaha
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
you're giving up ZZYZX Rd. to New Nevada? you fucking traitor
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
i would consider norcal to be san jose and points north. give or take a few miles.
hahahaha zzyzx road!
― NYSE:JAH (get bent), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara are socal. Any diehard Northern Californian should know this.
― unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyway the real battle is Contra Costa County vs. Inland Empire.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I can dig this. I need at least some more participation before I continue on to my next few points.
― Barackin' In the Free World (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link
"i would consider norcal to be san jose and points north. give or take a few miles."
No way Santa Cruz is Socal.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Dude, New Nevada also gets most of the prisons, pollution, and meth labs.
― unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link
fine, santa cruz and points north. it can be right on the border.
― NYSE:JAH (get bent), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link
xp Not until incorporates Riverside it doesn't.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link
what we're all missing is the fact that norcal and socal are not just geographic definitions, but rather, horrible states of mind
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean they're like alright places or w/e but they're great jumping off points for seeing redwoods idk
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 5 October 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
but then again I dont know about the lolweather right now
I'm not too picky about weather
― Heyy M. United This Is Your Last 48 Hours 3-0 3-0 3-0 (admrl), Friday, 5 October 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
we used to camp up somewhere near the Redwood State Forest, goddamn it's beautiful up there
but that was, like, 8 years ago so I'm really no help at all :/
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 October 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
Have any of you ever heard Northern California referred to as "No Cal"? I just got a memo from a colleague in our Irvine office referring to some Bay Area projects that way.
― how's life, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:17 (nine years ago) link
prop 13 is bad but if it were repealed for standard homeowners the vast majority of them in california would go bankrupt, most likely, such is the rate of real estate inflation in parts of this state. I believe they are now working on looking to repeal it for certain business transactions.
― akm, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:20 (nine years ago) link
bump?
― how's life, Friday, 31 October 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link
the only good city in california is san diego
― sleepingbag, Friday, 31 October 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link
eh
― the late great, Friday, 31 October 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link
what are you basing that on, sleepingbag?
― del griffith, Friday, 31 October 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link
# of people who can be trolled in california w/ one line
― iatee, Friday, 31 October 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link
iatee otm.
Have any of you ever heard Northern California referred to as "No Cal"?
I may have heard it years ago on *gulp* sports talk radio.
― Big Orange Machine (Leee), Friday, 31 October 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link
I divide california up into left and right cal. it's such a so cal thing to do.
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 31 October 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link
prop 13 is bad but if it were repealed for standard homeowners the vast majority of them in california would go bankrupt
I highly doubt that
― sarahell, Friday, 31 October 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link