This is a monster
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link
oh man
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
So, I guess I'm gonna have to make this month a Funkadelic listening month for me, 'cause I know the Parliament stuff wayyyy better and don't want it to be a really lopsided ballot. I know Maggot Brain is a big deal and I've enjoyed it whenever it's been on, but where else should I go first? I guess I have One Nation, Uncle Jam, and Electric Spanking of War Babies, but they're all kinda scratchy shitty copies and I never put 'em on.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link
America Eats Its Young is the bomb, love it
also really like Standing On The Verge
can somebody give me a S/D of the first four albums?
is any/all of this on Spotify?
― sleeve, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link
I know Maggot Brain is a big deal and I've enjoyed it whenever it's been on, but where else should I go first?
Standing on the Verge has consistently polled highly around here. imo it's the apex of the mid-period approach that splits the difference between the wild gloppiness of the early albums and the harder, more refined approach of the later records.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link
Toys is a compilation only recently released. The first s/t has a lot of classic breaks that have been sampled to death, has a great space-y acoustic vibe to a lot of it. Free Your Mind and Your Ass Will Follow is a totally unique album, the production is completely fucked up; it was my entry point into the band and kind of re-wrote how I thought about record production. Parliament's first album is really all over the place, closest maybe to America Eats Its Young in the multitude of genre excercises attempted, although I think the latter has better songwriting and lyric ideas.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link
(ie, from the Funkadelic Live at Rochester 1971 set, altho I wouldn't really expect anyone to vote for that
This record made me mad. Like, shouting-at-the-stereo mad. I was so excited to hear it, and was baffled by its suckiness.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
it has its moments but... man, that drummer
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link
it was a v odd choice to release. It's apparent that there are not really that many recorded shows from that period (unlike from '75 on or so) so I guess they just went with what they had and cashed in.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link
it is sort of like listening to a musical fistfight between Nelson and Lampkin. Crazy that a) the band was not informed they were being recorded for a potential release and b) it was Lampkin's FIRST NIGHT with the band, totally unrehearsed, and they still went through with the recording.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link
Some archival releases might have a disclaimer on the outside like, "While these recordings are of historical importance, they were not recorded under optimal conditions, and are mainly for collectors" or something. This should've said, "It's the drummer's first show with the band, and possibly his first show with drums."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link
But yeah, live remote recording was not cheap in 1971; weird that they went ahead with it anyway.
Crazy that a) the band was not informed they were being recorded for a potential release
True, but given some of the other shit Westbound pulled (including, but not limited to, forging Clinton's signature on contracts signing his publishing over to them), not telling them about the recording is pretty far down the list.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link
haha yeah
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link
I'm pretty partial to The Electric Spanking of War Babies. I wish the Sly collab were better known.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link
I wish they had been able to do the double-album Clinton had intended (I assume the other stuff from those sessions has seen release over the years?) That is a funny record.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
I'm leaving Zapp off because they were never really part of the P-Funk family... not that that makes it much easier!
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
Clinton and Bootsy are all over that first record
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
"George Clinton just happened to step into the studio this night and he really liked this one part that we had already re-did on 'Funky Bounce'. He advised us to loop that section and put the other talk-box parts over it. At that time, this was considered a genius act, because you had to actually cut the tape and make the right cut, line it up and loop it. So let us not forget that Dr. Funkenstein was way ahead of his time as well."—Bootsy Collins
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link
Roger's also on Electric Spanking of War Babies
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, well, still very much a separate entity, Roger not one to take instruction I think.
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link
Let's Take It To The Stage is a real good record.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link
moving on to neglected deep cuts:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFVfRCkq2PU
song starts out as kinda dreamy but not particularly remarkable disco and then gradually morphs into something almost completely different/goes *insanely* hard on the break at 4:58
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
Been raving about that track for years, to anyone who would listen (i.e. hardly anyone), miles better than "Knee Deep" imo.
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link
weeeellll I dunno if I'd go THAT far
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
Oh fucking hell, I thought that putting together a ballot for the XTC poll was difficult... this just takes the cake! I will be participating, of course!
― Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link
another much loved (around here afaict) deep cut:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SJZz-zkkcg
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link
Cosmic Slop is great, listened to it yesterday. The title track should be in everybody's top 10.
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link
NYRB pointed out in their review of the recent Clinton autobio that that song doesn't go where you would expect lyrically, it doesn't go for the easy moral of a hardworking mother it goes to this darker/stranger place with the "and the devil said..." bit
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UatXfWIIv7A
― Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link
^ Fucking love this one.
― Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
Prefer Biological Speculation myself, jam of the record imo
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link
well that and Loose Booty
will definitely vote for "If you Don't Like The Effect, Don't Produce The Cause"
― sleeve, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, 'Loose Booty' is definitely a contender for my ballot. The P-Funk album I've been listening to the most recently is probably Motor Booty Affair, so much great stuff on that record: 'Rumpofsteelskin', 'Aqua Boogie', 'Liquid Sunshine', the title track (excellent bassline) amongst others!
― Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link
the bassline in Liquid Sunshine is nuts
will be interesting if any ballads make it anywhere in the results - Wizard of Finance probably the only serious contender I would guess
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
btw if anyone wants to volunteer to help with/host images for the results that'd be great, I don't have anywhere to host stuff myself. Hideous Lump did a bang up job on the XTC poll, feel like P-Funk at least deserves as much
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link
Hmm, ballads-wise, yeah 'Wizard of Finance' definitely a contender for me. Probably 'Everybody's Going To Make It This Time' and 'Baby I Owe You Something Good' too. Good to see Cosmic Slop getting some love, I've always been particularly fond of 'March To The Witch's Castle' from that one.
― Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link
Thanks to "Jimmy's Got a Little Bit of Bitch in Him," Funkadelic answered my question: what act did I want writing songs about gays from an unexpected/ironic pov?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link
Honestly, even though there's so much stuff to take into account here, I'm genuinely quite excited to be listening to all these records again for the purposes of this poll. What an incredible run of music here!
― Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link
why frown? even the sun goes down
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link
Reality can be stiff sometimes, but then again it can be flexibleDepending on the angle of the dangle, increased by the heat of the meat
― Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link
I'm going to try and resist the temptation for vote for every track on Standing On The Verge Of Getting It On, but it's going to be difficult not to!
― Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link
You have 100 spots, fit them all in, I know I will
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link
Ranking the songs off the record is the hard part for me
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, shouldn't be hard for me to do a 100 track ballot for this, so much stuff is springing to mind already without even trying to get a ballot together, but as you said, ranking them is going to be a difficult task.
― Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
I guess Shakey already mentioned this in passing, but this is great timing for the P-Funk poll as George Clinton just dropped his autobiography (written with Ben Greenman, who also did the terrific Questlove memoir). I have been waiting half my life for it. It's well worth the read.
Here's a link to that NYRB piece: http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2014/oct/22/lessons-of-dr-funk/
Also, P-Funk is such an album band that it'd be a shame if we didn't poll the LPs. I'd be happy to run an albums poll once the tracks poll results roll out.
― thewufs, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link
another slept-on classic:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxf5edWBGLA
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
Is the Quazar record eligible for the poll? I mean, it has both Glenn Goins (of course) and Jerome Brailey on it, but I understand that Brailey isn't drumming on the whole record?
― Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link
yeah I think that qualifies
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
will be interesting if any ballads make it anywhere in the results
I like what Bootsy did with ballads on his albums... if they count as ballads, they're slow anyway. Cursory runthrough of my favourites suggests Parliafunkadelicment predominating, some Bootsy and, even though I like a helluva a lot of stuff by the other acts, not much else... I mean, can I actually shoehorn something from Eddie Hazel's album into my list... bah! Too difficult!!!
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 01:15 (nine years ago) link
My ballot's in. Disco-funk forever.
― Eric H., Saturday, 22 November 2014 04:18 (nine years ago) link
Is there still time to submit a ballot? I somehow missed this.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 22 November 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link
*sigh* yes just send your ballots jokers
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 22 November 2014 23:40 (nine years ago) link
ok I just threw 25 contenders your way. Thanks for running it a little long
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 23 November 2014 01:44 (nine years ago) link
Silent Boatman also not their finest hour hahaI'm not really into the Ruth Copeland stuff― Οὖτις, Friday, October 31, 2014 11:19 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm not really into the Ruth Copeland stuff
― Οὖτις, Friday, October 31, 2014 11:19 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 23 November 2014 01:53 (nine years ago) link
ok I'm holding balloting open until Thanksgiving in case there's any other stragglers out there. only 17 ballots in so far
― Οὖτις, Monday, 24 November 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link
Oh cool. I got stuck in the company of some real Sir & Madam Nose D'Voidoffunks this weekend, so my listening was limited. I was album to get my copy of Osmium out of storage, so there's a impending vote for "My Automobile".
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 24 November 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link
Forgot 'Alice In My Fantasies'...Pissed
― X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Monday, 24 November 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link
wait... did you get an e-mail from me that I received your ballot? cuz I don't think I saw your username in any of the ballots I've received so far.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 24 November 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link
only 17 ballots in so far
Only? That's pretty good is it not? Don't know what the average is though.
― Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Monday, 24 November 2014 20:48 (nine years ago) link
XTC poll had almost 40
― Οὖτις, Monday, 24 November 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link
Producers poll had 38
― Οὖτις, Monday, 24 November 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link
can't find my VU/solo poll results but that was also around 40 ballots iirc
― Οὖτις, Monday, 24 November 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link
Pretty sure I participated in a poll which didn't make double figures ... Abba maybe?
― Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Monday, 24 November 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link
feel like we should at least have more poll participants than band members lol
― Οὖτις, Monday, 24 November 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link
So you're looking at three figures then?
― Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Monday, 24 November 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
Stevie Wonder had roughly 20 or 30 I think.
― Eric H., Monday, 24 November 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
Oh ILXpaws
― Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Monday, 24 November 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link
Yes sorry I sent it...from Lee
― X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Monday, 24 November 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link
Already said on the Funkadelic album thread, but the new Funkadelic album is out on itunes now. Three goddamn CDs, 3 1/2 hours. Features twice as much new Sly Stone material as Sly's own botched comeback album from a couple years ago. Just purchased it - verdict still pending.
― Chuck Eddy. He's a people. (thewufs), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 08:30 (nine years ago) link
curious to hear what you think of it
I guess the only remaining holdout is Grisso...? once his ballot is in I'll get the results goin
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link
I've got a bunch of work today, but I have done most of my listening already, so I should have a ballot ready tonight or in the morning at the latest.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link
Great, we've been standing on the verge of getting this poll on for long enough!
― Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
Hey I sent a ballot but didn't get an email back- not sure if I followed procedure correctly.
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link
doesn't look like I got it - can you send it again?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link
OK,I resent to the address posted upthread.
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link
SENT!
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 07:28 (nine years ago) link
Not participating (as usual) but this will be my favourite rollout since the classic rock poll. And can I just use this space to tell the dream I had last night, in which Sly Stone and Bootsy Collins were at my parents' old house, attending my dad's Grey Cup (the Super Bowl of Canadian football) party? Nobody but me knew who they were, dunno who invited them, they just sat beside each other at a far end of the couch. Sly was looking pretty thin and greybearded. I went to my old bedroom to find some albums for them to autograph, and got irritated that my Sly and Funkadelic albums were all messed up, with Tower of Power and Frank Zappa and Ted Nugent vinyl in the sleeves instead. Eventually I realized that I could sort the vinyl out later, but by the time I carried the sleeves downstairs, the game was over and everyone was leaving. Sly and Bootsy had already left. (I hate football anyways.)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 29 November 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
ok results today...
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
there was a funkadelic poll?
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
for future reference:
ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc
― sleeve, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link
Where there confirmation emails?
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
jesus christ
if anyone still wants to vote get your ballot in now goddammit
19 ballots so far
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
mine was in at the beginning
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
only 19 is a poor show for ilm
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
like wtf people
i blame shakey for not using Shit Godamn Get Off Your Ass and vote as a title
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 1 December 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
LOL, I didn't think 19 was too bad but apparently it is :(
― Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Monday, 1 December 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
ilm only likes old music made by white people
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link
I think the turnout is embarrassing
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link
the greatest band ever and only 19 ballots is a disgrace. fuck you ilm.shakey you done good when you starting the roll out so we can see the excuses?
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
People seem to have been daunted by the size of the discography, like you have to have heard everything or something.
― Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link
that's silly. You vote for what you have heard and liked. Nobody has heard every classic rock song ever but people still voted.
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link
plus it's all on spotify if you want to hear it
Well I'm not on Spotify (though I have heard most of it anyway... and I voted... so I'll shut up).
― Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Monday, 1 December 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link
I filled out an entire 100 vote ballot!
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 1 December 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
Hoping that others would too so we got a top 100 roll out