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I didn't know there was a Coldplay/Diamond collab!

StanM, Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:39 (nine years ago) link

Much as I appreciate this new one, it's sent me back to listening to Bish Bosch (lol, as if I ever stopped) and I'm starting to think it's testament to how great that last album was that this new one is getting so much good attention. I really think stuff like Zercon and Epizootics are his absolute peak.

Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 30 October 2014 09:35 (nine years ago) link

I often think that certain albums by some artists suffer/benefit from reputational hangover, records getting the praise that their immediate predecessors should have got.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 October 2014 11:35 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, this definitely happens. I know this is probably a challops, but I see Scott 3 as the weak link in the quadrilogy. Sometimes wonder if the lack of punchier, wittier songs in favour of sleepier, more ponderous efforts are responsible for Scott 4 selling so badly. Was it his perceived 'New Jersey' at the time?

Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 30 October 2014 11:40 (nine years ago) link

I don't think so, "Songs from his TV series" still made the charts.

My theory has always been that he was releasing too many albums in too short a time (Scott 3, TV series, Scott 4 all in 1969)

Mark G, Thursday, 30 October 2014 11:45 (nine years ago) link

Yes, also 4 originally released under the engel name no?

keep the meat alive: pampas grass (wins), Thursday, 30 October 2014 11:56 (nine years ago) link

There is that, but I would have thought people would work that little bit out.

Mark G, Thursday, 30 October 2014 11:57 (nine years ago) link

Yes, though too much may have been made of that, seeing as the cover is a huge picture of him and the words "SCOTT 4". It clearly wasn't the new Englebert Humperdinck record.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 30 October 2014 11:58 (nine years ago) link

Haha fair point

keep the meat alive: pampas grass (wins), Thursday, 30 October 2014 12:01 (nine years ago) link

Wasn't it pretty normal for acts to release up to 3 records in a year back then? Or was 'product demand' slowing down by the late sixties? I know the Beach Boys were expected to deliver tonnes of stuff all the time, hence all the filler albums.

Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Thursday, 30 October 2014 12:10 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, but check the album charts for the Beach Boys, see how many charted. Also, that was 1962 or thereabouts.

Mark G, Thursday, 30 October 2014 12:12 (nine years ago) link

That new video is amazing

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2014/02/catherine-robbe-grillet-french-dominatrix#

In her recent biographical book Alain, she writes that while finding the Sadean theater outlined—along with the offer of being remunerated—“rather agreeable,” she was disappointed in an imperfect master who deigned to offer “mercy” to his “victim.” “The very notion of a contract ran contrary to my erotic fantasy wherein the Master, once elected, requires no permission whatsoever from the woman who has agreed to submit herself to him.”

And so we arrive at the heart of the matter: Robbe-Grillet’s “little girl” wife was, it appears, a dominant from the start, from her first sneer at the nuns, at Catholicism (she is not a believer), at convention, from her keeping of multiple simultaneous lovers, and now here with her grand seigneur.

So, I ask Madame, how can you tell who is really the submissive and who is really the dominant in any given relationship? Appearances are so often deceptive. Her answer cuts to the quick. “The one whose need is the greatest is the submissive.”

Milton Parker, Thursday, 30 October 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link

i think product definitely was slowing in late 60s at least in the world of pop and rock. even beach boys were down to 1 or 2 new LPs per year by 68/69. (though their greatest hits packages were the ones that charted in that era)

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 31 October 2014 04:40 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, this definitely happens. I know this is probably a challops, but I see Scott 3 as the weak link in the quadrilogy. Sometimes wonder if the lack of punchier, wittier songs in favour of sleepier, more ponderous efforts are responsible for Scott 4 selling so badly. Was it his perceived 'New Jersey' at the time?

― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), jueves 30 de octubre de 2014 11:40 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Scott 3 is definitely the least likeable in the quadrilogy. Maybe people were indeed so bored by it that they punished Scott 4 in return.

Moka, Friday, 31 October 2014 09:07 (nine years ago) link

Really?

Other peopl reckon Scott 3 is better than 4. Possibly because they got too used to 4, and 3 is much like it.

I don't think "Till the band come in" is that bad anyway.

Mark G, Friday, 31 October 2014 11:43 (nine years ago) link

I thought it was just me who had never really connected with 3.

Matt DC, Friday, 31 October 2014 11:48 (nine years ago) link

3 is probably my favorite after 4, and "If You Go Away" is easily in my top 5 Scott songs.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 31 October 2014 13:44 (nine years ago) link

Scott 3 is fantastic! It's Raining Today, Copenhagen, Two Weeks.., If You Go Away. Stone cold classics ppl.

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Friday, 31 October 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link

"30 century man" basically invented Julian Cope

Mark G, Friday, 31 October 2014 13:58 (nine years ago) link

Scott 3 is the best of the 60s albums, you guys are completely fucking nuts.

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Friday, 31 October 2014 14:02 (nine years ago) link

I'm going to play this really loud tonight while I am handing out candy

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link

but it's not raining today.

Mark G, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link

I have trouble remembering which track was on which album, they all blend together in my memory. Like 4 chapters of the same album. I probably liked the second or third the best (of those four).

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:17 (nine years ago) link

I always thought I was in a tiny minority thinking Scott 3 was better than Scott 4. But it would appear not!

Doran, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:24 (nine years ago) link

Hey hey hey! Don't get me wrong, I actually think Scott 3 and Scott 4 are the best ones but people coming from the first two might have found it too melancholic. There was also a lot happening musically at the end of the 60's so maybe people just lost interest in his style. A couple of more 'groovy' songs like '30 century man' might have been easier to sell.

Moka, Friday, 31 October 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link

I always preferred the French version of 'If you go Away'. The acoustic jangle of 30th Century Man always stuck out. Sounds more like a Dylan song that somehow snuck in there. A lot of the rest drifts by unremarkably for me.

But I do like 'Sons of' and I also love 'It's Raining Today' though. The quintessential 'Scott' ballad.

Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Sunday, 2 November 2014 01:45 (nine years ago) link

Rosemary makes me swoon. so beautiful.

charlie h, Sunday, 2 November 2014 06:57 (nine years ago) link

Didn't expect this to be so showtuney. I love it!

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Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 15 November 2014 02:51 (nine years ago) link

I keep hearing tracks on the radio that are awesome that turn out to be tracks from this album.

ͤ ͬͤ ͬͬͤ ͦͬͬͤ ͬͦͬͬͤ (sarahell), Sunday, 23 November 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link

they play this on the radio?

Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Monday, 24 November 2014 10:23 (nine years ago) link

was gonna say.

Mark G, Monday, 24 November 2014 10:39 (nine years ago) link

college radio --- yes.

ͤ ͬͤ ͬͬͤ ͦͬͬͤ ͬͦͬͬͤ (sarahell), Monday, 24 November 2014 11:27 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

saw childhood of a leader last night. really good and of course the score helps. is there a thread for it?

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 2 September 2016 11:41 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Scott Walker joins Sia to soundtrack Natalie Portman film Vox Lux

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/aug/22/scott-walker-joins-sia-to-score-vox-lux-natalie-portman

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Friday, 24 August 2018 23:54 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

It dawns on me around this time each year that we'll never hear a new Scott Walker album again. And no doubt we won't get any sort of outtakes or lost recordings gubbins either cos he wasn't that kind of artist. And this is a deep deep shame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwm5V7hN11M

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 09:34 (two years ago) link


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