Now imagine them as buddy-cop types with their own film together.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 November 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link
There are alot of stupid X-men, but Gambit is the stupidest 'fan-favorite' one.
― Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 1 November 2014 19:32 (nine years ago) link
what's his thing -- he generates exploding cards? Dunno why Stan Lee didn't create Chips, who can generate poker chips that explode deadly shrapnel.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 November 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link
i can't "wait" to see Tatum breakin' out the mon freres
― Nhex, Saturday, 1 November 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link
xp he can charge any object with kinetic energy, the cards thing is easy to carry and you know, he's a t'ief
― Nhex, Saturday, 1 November 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link
So who'll be Jonah Hill then?
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 1 November 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link
Meryl Streep.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 November 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link
Wasn't Gumbo supposed to be sexy? Channing looks...unfinished.
― Cousin Slappy, Saturday, 1 November 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link
wasn't gumbo spicy
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 November 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/channing-tatum-gambit-movie-797989
"None of us were sure how he was going to deal with the X-Men world. But we're going to be changing some of the tropes of these movies. It's always about saving the world (laughs), but maybe we're going to shift things a little bit."
..."He always felt the most real of the X-Men to me...kind of a tortured soul and […] not a good guy. But he's not a bad guy, either. He walks his own path. And of course he plays cards and drinks and is a martial-arts badass."
― da croupier, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link
He always felt the most real of the X-Men to me...kind of a tortured soul and […] not a good guy. But he's not a bad guy, either. He walks his own path. And of course he plays cards and drinks and is a martial-arts badass.
cool
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link
indeed, i can hardly think of a more "real" and three-dimensional x-man than tortured martial-arts card-playing, drinking badass Gambit
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:34 (eight years ago) link
i mean i guess i can sorta see the logic of a gambit movie, if you're only going to do so many solo character movies - he has his own separate venue with its own mythology, so that could maybe be kinda interesting, and the glowing flying cards have always seemed base-level cool. it's just the character itself is such a bag of cliches with no arc or core concept that anybody connects with.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:37 (eight years ago) link
not a good guy. But he's not a bad guy, either
Sounds like some real strong characterization going on here. He drinks! Complexity!
I liked Gambit a lot as a kid but it was mostly his costume. His hair looked cool coming out the top of that weird head turtleneck thing. Also love the gloves that only cover your middle two fingers. Dig the blue/magenta body armor w the fake abs too.
But yeah he was pretty stupid.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:39 (eight years ago) link
Script taken from a treatment by Chris Claremont!...and then written by the guy who did the Robocop remake. GREAT.
You mean Frank Miller?
― Madison Dumbbarfer (Leee), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link
i really hope channing genuinely feels this way about gambit. he probably knows fox needs a new hunky x-man with jackman aging out, but age-wise he could genuinely have spent his youth thinking a cajun card-thrower with a cool haircut was the dope. wonder if he bought early issues of Wildc.a.t.s. and shit
― da croupier, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:44 (eight years ago) link
was the dopest, rather
― da croupier, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:46 (eight years ago) link
I like the cards, and the idea of the X-Men having this guy who, power-wise, is sorta down there with Batman and is getting by mainly on agility and gumption. I remember him looking pretty cool in an early Phalanx story, where Madureira has him leaping wildly, almost suicidally around a dockyard, off rooftops and shit. He would have been a good parkour gimmick character, would fit into the idea of him as a thief, occupying marginal spaces, etc. But as far as I remember his personality was always pretty much a shitty Han Solo type with these attempts to add extra Wolverine. And his dumb, endlessly-deferred romance story with Rogue, which didn't make him more interesting and effectively put her character on hiatus for a decade or more.
I totally believe Tatum's sincere - he's basically my age and his likely first point of exposure was the animated series!
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link
just now tried to find some clips of him looking like a badass on the show and instead found this, whose creator has won my undying respect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJhdE3aXmJM
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:50 (eight years ago) link
oh man i hope it's not the tv show but that pre-image era of comics that got him hooked. i want him at meetings with fox asking if theres a way to make the guns bigger and the feet smaller
― da croupier, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:51 (eight years ago) link
they ARE planning an X-Force movie after gambit
― da croupier, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link
Sylvester Stallone IS Cable
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link
But as far as I remember his personality was always pretty much a shitty Han Solo type with these attempts to add extra Wolverine. And his dumb, endlessly-deferred romance story with Rogue, which didn't make him more interesting and effectively put her character on hiatus for a decade or more.
I was in college when the cartoon aired but I liked their Han-Leia sass.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link
The Han/Leia thing is fine as far as it goes, it was just shitty that the only thing anyone could write for Rogue became "I love him... but I can't touch him!" recycled about a million times over. The possible pathos to be wrung out of some kind of safe-sex metaphor were rapidly wrung out of it and it just became stupid and irritating, with a heavy overtone of "WTF does she see in this loser anyway?" I mean she was basically a Superman-class hero with this long established history, being thrown at this newcomer to insure he had a character subplot justifying his presence in the comic. She should have dumped his dumb ass sometime around 1992.
Now that would actually be a unique premise for a Gambit movie: in the first scene he gets dumped by his much cooler superhero girlfriend, let's see what he does next!
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvVENMFW0fg
other key "first Gambit exposure" scene for me, kinda sums up his pros and cons pretty thoroughly. i feel channing tatum is capable of this level of line delivery
LOL @ that video. Love the "don't-d-d-d-d-d-d-don't" part at the end w the guy waving his finger.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:58 (eight years ago) link
baffled that anyone ever thought this sloppy mishmash of undercooked ideas was a decent/"cool" character
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link
i never saw the tv show
http://viridian.mrks.org/gambitgame.jpg
― da croupier, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:02 (eight years ago) link
"could you guys cgi more lines on my face? i should be like "YAAAAAAAAA"....and why does there have to be a background in every shot? can't we have some where it's just, like, a color?"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link
https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/867279.jpg
This was my intro to X-Men. Still upset X-Men movies look nothing like this.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link
srsly i got my fingers crossed that tatum is gonna roid things up on these side movies
― da croupier, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:06 (eight years ago) link
so what's the deal -- Gambit carries thermonuclear old maid cards
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:25 (eight years ago) link
I don't get his mutant power
me neither, he makes zero sense
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:25 (eight years ago) link
if I want a mutant hurling thermonuclear old maid cars while saying Cajun bon mots in the nude I'd want Channing Tatum -- let's get real.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:27 (eight years ago) link
*cards
okay y'all have sold me on the idea of channing tatum bullying the director into making this a hyper-stylized filmic treatment of turn-of-the-90s bad superhero art. "could you guys cgi more lines on my face? i should be like "YAAAAAAAAA"....and why does there have to be a background in every shot? can't we have some where it's just, like, a color? this would be so amazing
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:30 (eight years ago) link
for the record his power is to "charge" objects with "kinetic energy" so that they fly away and explode. by itself that's kinda generic, but to the credit of chris claremont (or, i suspect, jim lee, given CC's famous indifference to what would actually look cool or be fun to draw in a superhero comic, god bless 'im) he carries around packs of cards so he always has something to charge up and fire away. i'll take that over the period's endless "energy blasts" to be honest. i just wish this power had been given to a less stupid character.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link
does he ever fight Doctor Doom? I've pined for an awesome onscreen Doctor Doom.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:43 (eight years ago) link
Doom returns to theaters in august, hypothetically could face gambit if Fox ever decides to merge their Fantastic Four and X-men rights
― da croupier, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:48 (eight years ago) link
Damn, Anthony beat me to it
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:54 (eight years ago) link
Check the next story on that link.
Max Lord makes zero sense as a JLA movie character if you're not going into full on Joke League America territory.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:57 (eight years ago) link
They should've cast Mark Cuban as Maxwell Lord, not Jay Baruchel!!
― Madison Dumbbarfer (Leee), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 00:02 (eight years ago) link
I hated Gambit right from the start when he was introduced to the X-Men, because he felt like a "90s edgy" replacement for Longshot, one of my favourite characters, who'd left the team a while earlier. They were both agile, parkour-style fighters who jumped a lot, both threw projectile weapons, both had a mysterious past, both were good-looking guys the ladies liked... But whereas Longshot was optimistic and naive, Gambit was cynical and brooding, which was the trend at the time.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 07:03 (eight years ago) link
I would like to suggest this as another piece of dialogue that should be in the film
http://www.virginiagallery.co.uk/Gordon
― soref, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 11:14 (eight years ago) link
strong guy otm
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 12:00 (eight years ago) link
They should've cast Mark Cuban as Maxwell Lord, not Jay Baruchel!!― Madison Dumbbarfer (Leee), Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh wow, totally.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Thursday, 28 May 2015 03:31 (eight years ago) link
Channing Tatum ISN'T Gambit.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 04:42 (eight years ago) link
huh
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 06:01 (eight years ago) link
great opportunity to bring back tim riggins of mars to reprise his widely-acclaimed performance as the ragin' cajun from x-men origins: wolverine
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 08:50 (eight years ago) link
nice
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 18:33 (eight years ago) link
Speaking as an unabashed X-Men fan, I'm 100% okay with there not being a Gambit movie.
― the lungs of either a horse or a human baby (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link
Channing Tatum IS Gambit... Again!
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Monday, 3 August 2015 06:17 (eight years ago) link
somewhere taylor kitsch is weeping
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 3 August 2015 08:25 (eight years ago) link
i will bet a shiny silver dollar this is gonna suck
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 07:23 (eight years ago) link
This will be the best super hero film ever, mon freres
― corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 07:25 (eight years ago) link
i disagree mes amis
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 07:32 (eight years ago) link
I have never understood the appeal of this character
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 4 August 2015 09:28 (eight years ago) link
I do, it doesn't help. He was bigger than Wolverine when I was reading X-Men comics in the 90s, had thought he was gone for good :(
― albvivertine, Tuesday, 4 August 2015 09:34 (eight years ago) link
I get the impression that there's going to be a Gambit movie because Channing Tatum wants a Gambit movie to exist. In terms of projects to gamble your clout on it seems like a Longshot but I wish him nothing but the Beast.
― You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 10:43 (eight years ago) link
I remember some guy telling me Gambit and Blade were the only cool Marvel characters.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 4 August 2015 11:28 (eight years ago) link
I was scanning SNA quickly and I thought this said "Channing Tatum is Ghandi".
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 13:23 (eight years ago) link
Too bad he dropped out of playing Houdini:
"Big" (yeah the Tom Hanks movie) Prequel On The Way
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 23:02 (eight years ago) link
Kinda funny that one of the very, very few '90s Marvel characters who wasn't depicted as a super-buff bohunk in the comics is being played in a movie by a super-buff bohunk.
― Off Pudding (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 August 2015 00:03 (eight years ago) link
While I have not seen Magic Mike XXL, I am under the impression Channing & Co. did their damndest to make that movie a pinnacle of fan service, and I hope they do the same here. A trailer set to Nine Inch Nails covering "My Cherie Amour" would be a good start.
― da croupier, Thursday, 6 August 2015 01:10 (eight years ago) link
i would like to see that
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 August 2015 01:39 (eight years ago) link
apparently they are still pretending to be making this movie? channing tatum IS locked into this contract! apparently we missed a period when gore verbinski was directing it. the most recent story i found suggests the current director is seeing it more as a love story than a heist story. because if there's one thing everybody loves about gambit, it's his troubled history with CANDRA, queen of the thieves' guild (or was it the assassin's guild?). tuomas otm upthread, gambit is a weak, grim-n-gritty replacement for longshot, who you'd want played by a totally guileless, good-natured kind of 80s surfer dude. keanu reeves in bill and ted would have been good.
but to be fair, i suspect that longshot was only teleported into the danger room because (a) ann nocenti, his co-creator, was claremont's editor on x-men (b) art adams, his other co-creator, drew that issue, and (c) claremont, having written nightcrawler out (and into excalibur) was feeling the absence of an agile, light-hearted character despite the dour direction he was pursuing overall. in one of the more bizarre and meta moments in claremont's 11-year run, longshot quit the team off-panel, after confiding in storm (in not so many words) that he's realized he has no subplots, character arcs, or anything to wax angsty about, and thus, given the book's preoccupations, is at risk of disappearing into nothing. he then came back for a pointless two-issue story in the pre-image era - i suspect jim lee just wanted a chance to draw mojo - and was needlessly bulked up and vengeful-ed out. the blood-spattered 90s had no room for him, even if he did have "shot" in his name.
all that said, neither longshot nor nightcrawler is all that compelling outside of an ensemble, which is probably good since i'm not convinced hollywood could do them any kind of justice. gambit isn't compelling outside or inside of an ensemble, but i also don't care if they fuck him up. there's not much there TO fuck up tbh. i was about to say, what the hell, i'll probably see this if it ever comes out, but then i realized i haven't seen the last TWO x-men movies (nor the deadpool films) so clearly i left my fandom somewhere back down the road, cherie.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I just saw yesterday that this was still on the slate for some reason, even though Fox will be a wholly-owned subsidiary of Disney soon and every Fox film in preproduction will probably get shitcanned shortly thereafter.
This is basically what Sony is doing with the Spider-Man adjacent movies. No one wants a Gambit movie with Channing Tatum, no one wants a Morbius movie with Jared Leto, but goddamn it you're going to get it anyway.
― Fantasy Eyelid (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link
I didn't think anyone wanted a Venom movie with Tom Hardy, but apparently this shit has no end. I don't think they're wrong, commercially speaking, to just double down endlessly.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link
I'm sure they assume that the visual spectacle that carried Venom to its (mostly overseas) success will translate directly into an equally-successful Silver Sable/Black Cat movie.
― Fantasy Eyelid (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link
feel like we're so used to predictions of a superhero crash that they're now written off out of hand, "people were talking about superhero fatigue back in 2014!" the youtuber lindsay ellis has made the comparison to big studio musicals in the 60s, where the warning signs were there in the early-to-mid-60s, but obscured by the giant-sized success of giant-sized productions like my fair lady and sound of music. so the bet continued to be on giant-sized musicals, and then several very giant-sized ones (camelot, dr. dolittle, hello dolly) all bombed over a couple of years, and it was no longer a safe bet.the other factor here would be the continuing development of china's own film industry and locally-resonant IP. right now nobody can match hollywood for sheer CGI spectacle, the money poured into yielding a really rich and continuous visual explosion without any distracting seams, shortcuts, or software presets. that won't last forever, surely.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link
Speaking as a comics fan, I'd just like to voice my opinion that 95% of non-MCU superhero movies are the hottest of hot trash. I do think that this is a bubble which will only last as long as Feige and company maintain a relatively high standard wrt their output. Once the overall quality of the field drops back to early-2000s levels, the craze will taper off.
― Fantasy Eyelid (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link
No Surprise: https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/05/07/gambit-movie-channing-tatum-dead-canceled-removed-disney-schedule/
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 03:09 (four years ago) link
no this cannot beeeeeehttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CdAKyQkeSR4/VnXHnOr1-bI/AAAAAAAAAAY/GcTI0lpTXTY/s320/Screenshot_2015-12-19-14-58-27-1.png
― Ce Ce Penistongs (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 03:19 (four years ago) link
;_;
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 03:21 (four years ago) link
dead-canceled-removed
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 03:50 (four years ago) link
i panicked for a minute that my beloved channing was dead
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 04:02 (four years ago) link
He might as well be, what does he even have to live for now
― Ce Ce Penistongs (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 10:24 (four years ago) link
look, as long as we have have jean-claude van damme as chance boudreaux in hard target we've already got the definitive gambit performance
― michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 10:44 (four years ago) link
I guess the time is ripe for me to call up Rue McClanahan and Dr. John to see if they're still onboard for my elderly Rogue & Gambit movie.
― Ce Ce Penistongs (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:18 (four years ago) link
well, given that rue mcclanahan's been dead for nine years, i imagine that the time isn't the only thing which is ripe
― michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:19 (four years ago) link
And here I thought she was just ghosting me. Which isn't entirely untrue.
― Ce Ce Penistongs (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:25 (four years ago) link
Channing Tatum WAS Gambit
― Arugula Raccoon (DJP), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link
i still love da croupier's pitch that this could be a filmic ode to the visual language of hack artists trying to imitate jim lee while drawing four books a month. no sets or cgi backgrounds, just washes of saturated magenta and orange and random manga ripoff lines everywhere, smoke always pouring in to avoid showing feet... could be amazing, sigh
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link
channing tatum is a remarkably unselfconscious screen performer and i'm always happy to see his big dumb face
― michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
So I guess he's in this movie about ... a dog with PTSD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4tAtp-TyzQ
I don't think I'm spoiling anything when I predict that they'll fix each other.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 December 2021 03:45 (two years ago) link
weirdhe’s in some other thing w sandra bullock where she’s a romance writer & he is a romance cover model - it looks like funny, like romancing the stone but not
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 31 December 2021 03:54 (two years ago) link