OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY: nu-Who season 8

That and Clara being the Doctor in "Flatwhatever."

DOCTOR DONNA

In an episode where Danny kills a child and dead people are burned alive, I did think the protracted torture of Change before he died was a bit much.

THe other confusing thing is the Mistress yelling that the last time they met, the Doctor left him/her for dead, which doesn't really fit at all with either of the Master's nu-Who "deaths": is this a pre-John Simm version of the Master (although every other time the two have met, it's been consecutive in their own timelines).

Well, the Doctor left him with the other Time Lords, who would presumably have executed him... Perhaps, if s/he is in love with the Doctor is some perverted way (as was implied here), he expected the Doctor to come save him, and when that didn't happen, s/he felt the Doctor had "left him to die".

One big implication of the Master's return is, if he was able to escape the time lock on Gallifrey, why not the other Time Lords too? I guess they might still reveal that his resurrection as a woman and return to Earth are a Time Lord plot of some kind.

Seriously, all the people questioning how barking The Master's plot is here need to watch Time-Flight then report back.

So far The Master has escaped from a black hole, been trapped with the cheetah people on a destroyed planet, been executed by the daleks, been sucked into the Eye of Harmony (these last two in the same story, and how unlucky to end up in a black hole twice!), been shot and "refused to regenerate" and was then burned (which Series 6 clearly states makes a Time Lord 100% genuinely dead, no comebacks), and possibly (there's actually no evidence he ends up in the same place as Rassilon) gets sucked into a pocket universe and/or black hole (third time's a charm!). He's also overcome the mythical regeneration threshold at least twice, turned into a magic snake, been a ghost and become a weird glowing skeleton that shoots laser beams. There's enough handwaving there to take off - so I really don't need to know how he turned into Michelle Gomez any more than a throwaway line of dialogue.

There's an encounter between Matt Smith Doctor and the Master in the officially licensed IDW series Prisoners of Time. I know, I know, canon.

I'll admit, all the stuff about "you deserted me" did make me think it was either The Rani (particularly since the plot was biology based) or an insane Romana - which was a very, very strong rumour.

I'm assuming that the little boy time lord Clara visited WAS the doctor? After all, if she's somehow a tool of missy's , then she'd be intertwined with The master's timeline too--and we have seen him as a little boy before

It's also interesting to see where the Misstress's plot goes next... an invasion clearly, but it's not as if the Cybermen came out of St Paul's guns blazing. People seemed unfazed by the whole thing - it was just the Doctor freaking out. So presumably she's going to sell this as the resurrection of loved ones, allowing the Cybermen to safely infiltrate society before turning on the 'kill' switch.

do we really have to redo the end of season 2 of nu-Who

this fukkin ruled btw

UGHH I just found out on Tumblr that not only are people slashing Missy and the Doctor, but they're doing it furry-style. /shudders

that seems... unnecessary

My favorite picture of the Master, with respect to his ability to return from the dead:

http://thepandorasociety.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/TheDeadlyAssassin.jpg

xp also I hope that helps you with the slash fiction.

Honest, I wasn't looking for slash! Just gifs of Missy... kissing the Doctor...

haha I bought the novelization of The Deadly Assassin solely for the illustration of The Master on the front; I had bailed on the actual televised story in protest at Sarah Jane's departure.

Liz sladen was really tasty in the early 70s. Not bad in the 5 doctors either though the show is

Missy's plan is pretty odd though... I guess the pretext is that Cybermen work better when humans voluntarily choose to get cyberized? Fewer mental breakdowns? As Aldo notes, perhaps one reason the Master/Mistress has never won is because their plots for domination are convoluted and stupid.

The BBC Complaints department have issued a response to complaints about the storyline in Dark Water which involved themes that some viewers found disturbing.

The following text contains plot details from Dark Water.
BBC One logoDoctor Who, BBC One, 01 November 2014

Complaint:

We received complaints from some viewers who were unhappy with a storyline about death and cremation.

BBC Response:

Doctor Who is a family drama with a long tradition of tackling some of the more fundamental questions about life and death. We were mindful of the themes explored in ‘Dark Water' and are confident that they are appropriate in the context of the heightened sci-fi world of the show.

The scene in which a character reveals 3W's unconventional theory about the afterlife was preceded by the same character warning the Doctor and Clara several times that what they were about to hear could be distressing. When the Doctor does hear these claims, he immediately pours scorn on them, dismissing them out of hand as a "con" and a "racket". It transpires that he is correct, and the entire concept is revealed to be a scam perpetrated by Missy.

I guess the pretext is that Cybermen work better when humans voluntarily choose to get cyberized? Fewer mental breakdowns?

The original conception of the Cybermen is that they're really satisfied with their improved bodies and minds and are offering this boon to their Earthian twins.

I'm probably thinking of the audio drama Spare Parts, the details of which escape me but was very good. And adapted for Rise of the Cybermen by RTD, but changed rather a lot?

Is there anywhere I can buy the Doctor's cool back punk sweater?

Everything except the overcoat and shoes seems to be by Paul Smith, so I'd expect that also goes for the sweater. I have a way of finding out for sure at the weekend, so I'll try, but it hinges on whether or not I see a particular friend at the farmer's market.

It's the black one with the white dots/holes/stars(?)

"a ‘press here’ button, which when pressed plays the legendary TARDIS sound effect."

http://www.bbcshop.com/science-fiction/doctor-who-series-8-bbc-shop-exclusive-blu-ray/invt/bbcbd0289

OK want.

The jacket's a Crombie as is the white shirt. He's going for proper mod/original skinhead favourites. Those Doctor Marten brogue boots are beautiful and I love that holey jumper. Also loved his polka dot shirt in Kill The Moon, very swish.

No, the white shirt is bespoke Paul Smith - the designer is a friend of Capaldi's.

Ah, fair enough, my sources were incorrect! Didn't think Crombie didn't shirts... I guess all the shirts are PS? Not that I can afford 'em, but maybe Topman/Asos will do a knock off (I have a polkadot shirt I like very much, but I want bigger dots dammit!)

H&M have a holey jumper : http://www.hm.com/gb/product/59051?article=59051-A

obv it's not as good

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/08/1407494653737_wps_2_Dr_Who_star_Peter_Capaldi.jpg

It's not holes but sparkles

actually that might just be a shirt looks kinda weired

Here you go

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/17/article-0-1FB6FC5B00000578-195_634x955.jpg

That's a Paul Smith cosmos print shirt. Absolutely splendid. Wish I had a space £150 to spend on a shirt...

That H&M one is very loose and gothy, although I suppose if you sized down you could get something approaching the sharp cut of Capaldi's. I guess you could always buy a simple black crew neck and poke holes in it, but it would probably look rubbish.

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/944x531_b/p013xvpx.jpg

It's not holes but sparkles

I think you are mistaking his eyes for sweater accoutrements.

Is it time to predict part 2 yet? My guess: Clara and Danny split with the doctor finally, but steal the master's tardis to do their own thing. Maybe?

I've been trying to find where the cybermen having a problem with gold is introduced. Just had them appear in Silver Nemesis where they're being attacked with gold tipped arrows.
Earlier weapons against them have been radiation in 10th Planet and a chemical combination inspired by nail polish remover in an early Troughton. So is it the Tom Baker on the space station where the gold is the best way of combatting them is introduced?

Yeah, the Fourth Doctor one with Nerva Beacon.

Don't think the weakness to gold is a thing in Nu-Who?

Are they still alternate earth Cybermen rather than Mondas Cybermen? I've lost track.

Yes, it was originally to gold DUST, with some rubbish about it blocking their breathing apparatus.

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There seems to be some suggestion--not sure where I got this from--that nu-Who Cybermen are the combined forces of alternate Earthers mixed with Mondasian-descended fellows

so clearly the best defense in the universe is a golden staircase

think they're going to more properly explore the danny's descendant thing? or just leave it as is? it kind of seemed like there would be something else but they're kind of out of time unless it's the christmas special (which I gather is Clara's last story).

I never got that impression to be honest.

Seems like an odd thing to throw in in passing without further exploration. Like an in joke that's kept away from the audience that it's presented to, though not exactly funny or way too deus ex machina.
Seemr more like something you'd expect as theme than encapsulated observation.
Or in other words it seems like a detail you just wouldn't refer to if what you saw there was all you're going to see of it.
But is it tied up by the visit to Danny's orphan childhood and the significance of the toy soldier he still has?
Still, did seem like something they'd look at further.

You honestly think that this descendant of Danny Pink's, who has a time travelling ancestor and gives the family heirloom back to Clara, is an unresolved plot point?

Yeah, feels like a candidate for Moffatt's Dawkins-level argument philosophy as espoused when people tried pointing out plot holes before: http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/moffat-on-plot-hole-criticisms-57718.htm

"If you think that's shoddy writing, go away and learn how to think."

Of course that leads to "At what stage can Cyberman feel pain? Can Dalek feel more?"

I'm sure they're going to explore it further, and just because Clara's leaving doesn't mean Danny or Future Danny won't appear in some form.

They seem to be building towards a bitter split between the Doctor and Clara, and Danny being unable to return to his old life would be one reason for that.

I'm too lazy to rewatch it right now, but what was it do you think Clara wanted to tell Danny before he was killed when she was looking at all those post-it notes? I have a feeling Clara might be pregnant and she doesn't get Danny back, but that's why Future Danny will still exist.

I hope this is not the way they're doing it cause Danny is my favourite companion boyfriend in nu-Who, and it really bummed me out when he was killed. The scenes where Clara threatens the Doctor at the volcano and when he agrees to help her were properly moving too.

"Stop it with the EYES!"