Moment when it became like cool to like commercial pop music?

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I don't wanna give too much away, but it was a little like this

http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer2/20122005/776483/Camp-David_wa.jpg

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link

reading all my posts like I'm Quavo

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link

iirc it was a fun meeting when we all agreed on this. Good catering.

Re-Make/Re-Model, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link

Geir Hongro was the dissenting vote but then I dropped FutureSex/LoveSounds and he was all like "AHHHHHHHHH!"

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link

call me gotye

shmurda shmapital (sleepingbag), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link

hurting, was this really the place for your big reveal

imago, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link

2012: ? The commercial but careful unassumingly cool image for the uncynical tumblr user? (Lana Del Rey and Lorde) Was it that recent?

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link

http://sprudge.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/1-img_6313.jpg

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link

excellent thread, and yeah, I'd say 2011 for sure.

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link

2004?

Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link

2011 ??

turning point = 2005

reason = rachel stevens : come and get it.

(that said, surely girls aloud hit this spot given the chaos on ilm/charts at the time !)

mark e, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link

http://s19.postimg.org/s2rc9if77/Starbucks_Tattoo_38009.jpg

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link

reminder that starbucks is the reason we no longer have seattle supersonics.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link

Grimes professing her love for Mariah Carey right when Visions came out was a big moment, I think.

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7285/8747451498_a9d9f93bc6_z.jpg

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MxfLat5x-AI/hqdefault.jpg

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link

Grimes professing her love for Mariah Carey right when Visions came out was a big moment, I think.

― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:46 PM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was thinking of her love of Justin Bieber too ("I mean I don't get why he gets so much hate, it's really amazing what he's acheived at his age, by himself, and he's actually like a really good singer" etc). it doesn't matter whether it's genuine or not, point is it was now a thing to actively support commercialism in music than be anything else towards it, and it never really was before that.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link

You guys are way off. This happened in September 1992.

everything, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link

haha jinx

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link

the real answer is the Prague Spring.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link

2004? http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/31/arts/music/31sann.html?ei=5088&en=bae986089f3d2d35&ex=1256965200&partner=rssnyt&pagewanted=all&position=&_r=1&

Mordy

Great shout as an early misguided attempt. Ashlee Simpson happened though, before ironic cool tmblr wave, so she had no real options for crossover appeal other than what she tried. And it was never going to work. It was only possible for this sort of thing to work at a certain recent time in our history. The /wmv is the clue to why.

Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

“Overrated and a Waste of Money”
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Yes, it's a great place to chill out, but to be honest there are better (or at least just as good) coffee places to go nearby. Don't waste your money just because of the name. Go somewhere else for a fraction of the price.
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Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

This Starbucks is always busy so get used to it. Starbucks is overrated and over priced anyway. The only thing I ever get from here is an iced green tea or a green tea frap. The coffee sucks.

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link

https://img0.etsystatic.com/028/0/5449023/il_340x270.658601286_depd.jpg

Evan, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link

First off, Starbucks sucks. Their only good drink is the Caramel Frap. Starbucks is probably the most overrated cafe in the history of the world.

The only reason I gave this two stars is because the service isn't bad.

Starbucks is also a smoke-free environment, which is stupid. Are you kidding me? Yeah, I'm a smoker and cigarette is a compliment to coffee as much as sugar or creamer.

The crowd that comes here varies, and may affect your experience.

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link

Unlike most, I think Starbucks is quite overrated and too expensive. When my office was nearby I went there fairly often. Now almost never and I wonder why I ever went there. The coffee always tastes burnt and ALWAYS requires "additives" to make it palatable. The pastries they sell are grossly over-priced and mediocre at best. Bread Compny or Eiensteins are always better choices.

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link

I've always thought Starbucks was overrated. To me, they are like the Walmart of the coffee world - too ubiquitous and not as great as their reputation makes them out to be.

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link

the brownies are good!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link

where's dave cool when you need him

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link

starbucks

Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link

who the fuck is huevo?

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link

2004: Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone

MarkoP, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link

no one came to my lieder parties after that one hit the charts

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link

everyone gtfo with this starbucks business, this is a serious thread. are we so vain ?

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link

dudes in a room unite, you have nothing to lose but your cool

maura, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link

another potentially serious answer - 2003:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU

Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link

Ok, I will indulge in one serious response though -- I have a distinct memory of being at a hangout on a rooftop and a friend putting on Justified who I wouldn't have expected to like *pop music*, and being sort of surprised, and then finding a lot of other people I wouldn't expect were also into that record. But that was more just a watershed moment in my corny indie consciousness than in the culture at large.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

even 1999 i remember hearing travis do 'baby one more time' and thinking (nb i was 15 at the time) oh! britney spears could be cool. but that was more distant/mocking and not sincere liked.

Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-1789539-1356465446-1930.jpeg

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

Mid 00's. Rock completely died after a laughable attempt of garage revival and hip hop took its place. So some producers like Timbaland and the Neptunes made cool to like commercial pop music and here we are.

Moka, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsrQYVanGO0
My job is done. Weingarten showing himself as the bitter cretin he is. Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam.

example (crüt), Friday, 21 November 2014 00:47 (nine years ago) link

still can't figure whether tanuki will turn out to be one of the likely suspects or some heretofore unnoticed follower of rockwrite who could lurk no longer

da croupier, Friday, 21 November 2014 00:50 (nine years ago) link

By blasting Paramore at full blast and locking yourself in your room?

― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:47 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh honey if you're gonna place yourself as a smarter-than-thou pedant you should at least do a google news search. anyway have fun bashing your tail against bricks

maura, Friday, 21 November 2014 00:50 (nine years ago) link

ooooh what if it's dero, possessed by the symbiote

da croupier, Friday, 21 November 2014 00:53 (nine years ago) link

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Moka, Friday, 21 November 2014 01:33 (nine years ago) link

raccoon tanuki do you have bennies

mookieproof, Friday, 21 November 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link

JUST FUN TIMES ON THE INTERWEBZ Y'ALL

search datpiff, you'll find it (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:00 (nine years ago) link

xpost IM SAYIN. ott has been my half-serious pet theory this whole time, although as some dude pointed out in the goon thread ott doesn't exactly (one assumes) know enough about rap to fake it for a troll sock identity

search datpiff, you'll find it (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:01 (nine years ago) link

dude most likely spends too much time refreshing pitchfork for indie buzz bands he can mock and/or/including angrily staring at ryan schreiber's name on the masthead to pay much attention to even what p4k considers cover-able rap

search datpiff, you'll find it (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:03 (nine years ago) link

i think he's mad abt interpol being stuck in the snow right now

i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:23 (nine years ago) link

lol def seems that way

search datpiff, you'll find it (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:26 (nine years ago) link

or i should say he's mad AT interpol for being stuck in a huge blizzard as far as i could tell?

i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:29 (nine years ago) link

My theory: Rollie Pemberton?

Tim F, Friday, 21 November 2014 03:06 (nine years ago) link

OH SHIIIIITTTTT cadence weapon himself lol

search datpiff, you'll find it (slothroprhymes), Friday, 21 November 2014 03:22 (nine years ago) link

I want to say RT is Tal Bachman but then RT hates DYNASTIES such as THE BACHMAN FAMILY MUSIC DYNASTY

$0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 21 November 2014 03:25 (nine years ago) link

this got weird today

Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 21 November 2014 05:09 (nine years ago) link

this thread won't load for me, am grateful

lex pretend, Friday, 21 November 2014 09:43 (nine years ago) link

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da croupier, Friday, 21 November 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/lS6KaaR.jpg

Moka, Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:06 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HssG4N-tatY

los blue jeans, Saturday, 22 November 2014 01:07 (nine years ago) link

^ raccoon related trust me

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 22 November 2014 01:26 (nine years ago) link

My theory: Rollie Pemberton?

― Tim F, Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:06 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iirc Rollie actually likes people?

I Love Makonnen: New Answers (The Reverend), Saturday, 22 November 2014 03:08 (nine years ago) link

RP probably wouldn't be dumb enough to say this about the assault by Masta Killa on Cheo Coker over some drawings in a magazine: Including punching smarmy snidey bullshit music journalists of the type we see posting here.

ILoveMeconium (President Keyes), Saturday, 22 November 2014 03:54 (nine years ago) link

rollie is a good guy iirc and not the sort to do this sorta sockin'

Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 22 November 2014 05:23 (nine years ago) link

No that's probably true, it just would have explained the rap knowledge.

Tim F, Saturday, 22 November 2014 05:29 (nine years ago) link

i like the idea that we have to explain rap knowledge.

a total laugh package (s.clover), Saturday, 22 November 2014 05:40 (nine years ago) link

did RT drift over here from 4chan or something? his argumentative style is... the word "callow" comes to mind.

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 22 November 2014 06:31 (nine years ago) link

My theory: Rollie Pemberton?

― Tim F, Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:06 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

raccoon is a brit; don't knock edmonton unless you've been there and have then many an excuse

soma's little yelpers (lion in winter), Saturday, 22 November 2014 07:07 (nine years ago) link

Is that why he hates america?

Moka, Saturday, 22 November 2014 07:30 (nine years ago) link

Yeah rollie was p chill

i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 22 November 2014 13:25 (nine years ago) link

Hard to believe a former Stylus colleague would post this twaddle.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 November 2014 13:34 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/wza5DUA.gif

Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 22 November 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link


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