Unlike most, I think Starbucks is quite overrated and too expensive. When my office was nearby I went there fairly often. Now almost never and I wonder why I ever went there. The coffee always tastes burnt and ALWAYS requires "additives" to make it palatable. The pastries they sell are grossly over-priced and mediocre at best. Bread Compny or Eiensteins are always better choices.
― Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
I've always thought Starbucks was overrated. To me, they are like the Walmart of the coffee world - too ubiquitous and not as great as their reputation makes them out to be.
the brownies are good!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link
where's dave cool when you need him
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link
starbucks
― Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link
who the fuck is huevo?
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link
2004: Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone
― MarkoP, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link
http://library.indstate.edu/about/units/rbsc/kirk/images/sm1909_i_love.jpg
― a total laugh package (s.clover), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link
no one came to my lieder parties after that one hit the charts
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
everyone gtfo with this starbucks business, this is a serious thread. are we so vain ?
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link
dudes in a room unite, you have nothing to lose but your cool
― maura, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link
another potentially serious answer - 2003:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link
Ok, I will indulge in one serious response though -- I have a distinct memory of being at a hangout on a rooftop and a friend putting on Justified who I wouldn't have expected to like *pop music*, and being sort of surprised, and then finding a lot of other people I wouldn't expect were also into that record. But that was more just a watershed moment in my corny indie consciousness than in the culture at large.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
even 1999 i remember hearing travis do 'baby one more time' and thinking (nb i was 15 at the time) oh! britney spears could be cool. but that was more distant/mocking and not sincere liked.
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-1789539-1356465446-1930.jpeg
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
Mid 00's. Rock completely died after a laughable attempt of garage revival and hip hop took its place. So some producers like Timbaland and the Neptunes made cool to like commercial pop music and here we are.
― Moka, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
^^^^pretty OTM
― give kawhi his damn eyedrops (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link
Justified in 2002, then Speakerboxx/The Love Below in 2003, the proliferation of "guilty pleasure" thinkpieces, the Voice's music criticism, and, of course, ILM, all around that early to mid-00s period for me. I think of it more as it becoming uncool to say "I don't listen to pop music" rather than the other way around.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link
hey everyone I'm sorry if I drowned out spazzmatazz and raccoon tanuki proffering their $0.00 on this v important question, I will leave them to dance their pas de douche into the night
namaste
― Fairly peng (wins), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link
lol @ "proffering their "$0.00"
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link
I don't listen to pop music
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link
HOW IS THIS DISCUSSION HAPPENING ON THIS BOARD
I KNOW SEARCHING IS 'HARD' BUT JESUS CHRIST
― maura, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link
^searchist
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link
xpost i think people were just trying to countertroll an obvious troll move by the opposable thumb-less shitooki at first and then serious answers started rolling in
― give kawhi his damn eyedrops (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link
as well as many lols, for the record
― give kawhi his damn eyedrops (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link
abandon thread
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/24/article-2105882-11DDEE4C000005DC-701_468x711.jpg
― Moka, Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/7/25/14/anigif_enhanced-buzz-6217-1374776284-31.gif
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link
^^^
we have reached perfection
lock thread.
― mark e, Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link
2008 recession was the end of "selling out" unless you're talking about Wal-Mart or Haliburton.
― the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link
― Moka, Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:49 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
totally otm. animal collective was the seminal rock band of 2005-2009, but it makes sense they didn't breakthrough until pure electro pop "my girls"
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:10 (nine years ago) link
it's true, they jizzed all over the place
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:12 (nine years ago) link
mpp was the best load of their life
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:15 (nine years ago) link
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Friday, November 14, 2014 1:10 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
actually this is all b/s but i don't think this is the thread in which to have a real debate on the topic.
― Tim F, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:23 (nine years ago) link
has anybody done the Scanners gif yet cos i can#'t be bothered to check back
― Stim McRaw (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:23 (nine years ago) link
came here to say Toxic too.
― piscesx, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:33 (nine years ago) link
i think when motown got bigor frank sinatra
― punk rocketeer (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:44 (nine years ago) link
i blame the film american psycho. critics heard patrick bateman's game and were like "damn, that's next level"
― da croupier, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link
lingering woodstock iii guilt, that was also an influence
― da croupier, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:50 (nine years ago) link
the international pop underground convention was an early combination of pop, cool and coffee consumption
― da croupier, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:52 (nine years ago) link
it has always been cool, u guys are nerds
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:52 (nine years ago) link
no jazz used to be cool
― da croupier, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:53 (nine years ago) link
the cool people liked jazz, the lame people liked pop
― da croupier, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:54 (nine years ago) link
in fact the film girls town, when paul anka defeats the thuggish mel torme, that might have been an early turning point
― da croupier, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:55 (nine years ago) link
basically every 15 year old hates pop music and then about half of them realize they like it somewhere between 16 and 60 and decide they're the first person/generation to ever embrace the power of pop music
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:55 (nine years ago) link
summer 2003
― ≖_≖ (Lamp), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link
remember when critics were like "wannabe that's a good song" and the hip were like "too soon"
― da croupier, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:57 (nine years ago) link
no
― ≖_≖ (Lamp), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link
lol yes, before opening the thread i answered 2 myself that kelefa sanneh's 2004 piece was *the moment* when it suddenly became cool
― dyl, Friday, 14 November 2014 02:00 (nine years ago) link
"Wannabe" was definitely an interesting cultural moment in the sense that America had banned really sugary girly pop for a few years but the UK still loved it so much that it started to spill over to us and it seemed so out of place here
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:00 (nine years ago) link
i'm still here, believing in indie rock, not downloading taylor swift albums. but that might just be me
― hackshaw, Friday, 14 November 2014 02:23 (nine years ago) link
rollie is a good guy iirc and not the sort to do this sorta sockin'
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 22 November 2014 05:23 (nine years ago) link
No that's probably true, it just would have explained the rap knowledge.
― Tim F, Saturday, 22 November 2014 05:29 (nine years ago) link
i like the idea that we have to explain rap knowledge.
― a total laugh package (s.clover), Saturday, 22 November 2014 05:40 (nine years ago) link
did RT drift over here from 4chan or something? his argumentative style is... the word "callow" comes to mind.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 22 November 2014 06:31 (nine years ago) link
My theory: Rollie Pemberton?
― Tim F, Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:06 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
raccoon is a brit; don't knock edmonton unless you've been there and have then many an excuse
― soma's little yelpers (lion in winter), Saturday, 22 November 2014 07:07 (nine years ago) link
Is that why he hates america?
― Moka, Saturday, 22 November 2014 07:30 (nine years ago) link
Yeah rollie was p chill
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 22 November 2014 13:25 (nine years ago) link
Hard to believe a former Stylus colleague would post this twaddle.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 November 2014 13:34 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/wza5DUA.gif
― Raccoon Tanuki, Saturday, 22 November 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link