Moment when it became like cool to like commercial pop music?

2004: Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone

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no one came to my lieder parties after that one hit the charts

everyone gtfo with this starbucks business, this is a serious thread. are we so vain ?

dudes in a room unite, you have nothing to lose but your cool

another potentially serious answer - 2003:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU

Ok, I will indulge in one serious response though -- I have a distinct memory of being at a hangout on a rooftop and a friend putting on Justified who I wouldn't have expected to like *pop music*, and being sort of surprised, and then finding a lot of other people I wouldn't expect were also into that record. But that was more just a watershed moment in my corny indie consciousness than in the culture at large.

even 1999 i remember hearing travis do 'baby one more time' and thinking (nb i was 15 at the time) oh! britney spears could be cool. but that was more distant/mocking and not sincere liked.

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Mid 00's. Rock completely died after a laughable attempt of garage revival and hip hop took its place. So some producers like Timbaland and the Neptunes made cool to like commercial pop music and here we are.

^^^^pretty OTM

Justified in 2002, then Speakerboxx/The Love Below in 2003, the proliferation of "guilty pleasure" thinkpieces, the Voice's music criticism, and, of course, ILM, all around that early to mid-00s period for me. I think of it more as it becoming uncool to say "I don't listen to pop music" rather than the other way around.

hey everyone I'm sorry if I drowned out spazzmatazz and raccoon tanuki proffering their $0.00 on this v important question, I will leave them to dance their pas de douche into the night

namaste

lol @ "proffering their "$0.00"

I don't listen to pop music

HOW IS THIS DISCUSSION HAPPENING ON THIS BOARD

I KNOW SEARCHING IS 'HARD' BUT JESUS CHRIST

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xpost i think people were just trying to countertroll an obvious troll move by the opposable thumb-less shitooki at first and then serious answers started rolling in

as well as many lols, for the record

abandon thread

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we have reached perfection

lock thread.

2008 recession was the end of "selling out" unless you're talking about Wal-Mart or Haliburton.

Mid 00's. Rock completely died after a laughable attempt of garage revival and hip hop took its place. So some producers like Timbaland and the Neptunes made cool to like commercial pop music and here we are.

― Moka, Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:49 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

totally otm. animal collective was the seminal rock band of 2005-2009, but it makes sense they didn't breakthrough until pure electro pop "my girls"

it's true, they jizzed all over the place

mpp was the best load of their life

Mid 00's. Rock completely died after a laughable attempt of garage revival and hip hop took its place. So some producers like Timbaland and the Neptunes made cool to like commercial pop music and here we are.

― Moka, Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:49 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

totally otm. animal collective was the seminal rock band of 2005-2009, but it makes sense they didn't breakthrough until pure electro pop "my girls"

― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Friday, November 14, 2014 1:10 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

actually this is all b/s but i don't think this is the thread in which to have a real debate on the topic.

has anybody done the Scanners gif yet cos i can#'t be bothered to check back

came here to say Toxic too.

i think when motown got big
or frank sinatra

i blame the film american psycho. critics heard patrick bateman's game and were like "damn, that's next level"

lingering woodstock iii guilt, that was also an influence

the international pop underground convention was an early combination of pop, cool and coffee consumption

it has always been cool, u guys are nerds

no jazz used to be cool

the cool people liked jazz, the lame people liked pop

in fact the film girls town, when paul anka defeats the thuggish mel torme, that might have been an early turning point

basically every 15 year old hates pop music and then about half of them realize they like it somewhere between 16 and 60 and decide they're the first person/generation to ever embrace the power of pop music

summer 2003

remember when critics were like "wannabe that's a good song" and the hip were like "too soon"

no

lol yes, before opening the thread i answered 2 myself that kelefa sanneh's 2004 piece was *the moment* when it suddenly became cool

"Wannabe" was definitely an interesting cultural moment in the sense that America had banned really sugary girly pop for a few years but the UK still loved it so much that it started to spill over to us and it seemed so out of place here

i'm still here, believing in indie rock, not downloading taylor swift albums. but that might just be me

that's our hackshaw!

"stop" by spice girls (music video playing on a projection screen during COSMIC BOWLING) was the first time i really fell in love with a pop song. any song, really. i was 9. seminal moment, it was. then i kept pretty snobby until toxic.

wait why are we taking this thread seriously

FPing myself

i would say this started post-chillwave, can vaguely remember the Wavves dude making a big deal out of liking Blink 182, i.e. "hey this is actually really good!!!"

and then the insinuating RnB trend drove that point even closer and the Grimes thing as previously mentioned and here we are

Kogan and Eddy were the first critics I liked who were into pop music, ca. late '80s.

Like sort of explicitly into pop music, I guess. I read Christgau, too.

Yeah rollie was p chill

Hard to believe a former Stylus colleague would post this twaddle.

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