▼Arbre Mort▼ aka Willow Smith

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okay lmfao at Jaden: "I still haven’t been to driver’s ed because if everybody I know has been in an accident, I can’t see how driver’s ed is really helping them out."

this is awesome

― example (crüt), Monday, November 17, 2014 4:52 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they sound like horrible people. alternatively, the level of stupidity that has been pumped into their minds reaches child-abuse levels.

"the melancholiness of the ocean; the melancholiness of everything else"

this sounds like a Borges line

or a bush album title

also, holy redundant suffix

Worst celebrity family ever

Amateurist otm shit is not funny

it's weird that their father got rich and famous by being funny and charismatic and then raised his kids to be these somber little pod people

This shit is hilarious, come on

Stupid fabulously rich people are depressing

more classic than dud

Willow’s “3″ is available now on iTunes. Jaden’s “Cool Tapes Vol. 2″ will be available beginning at 12 a.m. with the download of his new app called Jaden Experience.

These awful people, they rule us

yes these two black teenagers are perfect symbols of the american ruling class

i thought the interview was awesome, i think theyre awesome, i never want to read or listen to anything they make

I was referring to the entire family

Just the idea of inheriting cultural space like they have is gross

it's weird that their father got rich and famous by being funny and charismatic and then raised his kids to be these somber little pod people

― nakhchi little van (some dude), Monday, November 17, 2014 9:11 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, listen to "rock the house" and then read this interview. will smith has traveled a long road.

lamp, what is your definition of "awesome"? that is not a leading remark.

in this context? idk something like inspiring feelings of admiration and/or disbelief

partly i just... i cannot imagine being interviewed by the new york times (even the new york times magazine) and saying... any of the things that they said. even if its just meaningless art skool drivel it feels admirably loopy and its also just really funny. also jaden otm when says not very much current music is cool

Just the idea of inheriting cultural space like they have is gross

― Οὖτις, Monday, November 17, 2014 11:03 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm always confused when people single out one of the lone black legacy families in Hollywood as where they want to feel gross about occupation of undue cultural space.

Also in the spirit of the thread, something of her actual music I guess:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpIMt9wKZUw

I'm always confused when people single out one of the lone black legacy families in Hollywood as where they want to feel gross about occupation of undue cultural space.

I'm not

b/c it's a thread about the smiths? because complain about dynasties of all kinds, all the time.

PEOPLE complain, i meant to write

and the smiths are horrible crypto-scientologists with creepily entitled children?

i mean, racism is everywhere, but it's not like we need another reason to find the smiths kind of alarming, along with other celebrity scientologist families who make vanity films/records

The Smiths are the least alarming Scientologists out there!

i'm not sure about it, but even if it were true that's sort of like saying "nuclear proliferation is the least likely of these ten imminent threats to human civilization!"

it's very possible i'm missing out on most of the places where "people" (who? where?) routinely complain about black celebrity dynasties and avoid complaining about their white counterparts.

sorry i got in a dizzy, i just hate the oblique hand-waving sort of thing that greer is doing up there.

dizzy tizzy

feel like in the time of #gamergate ppl have to say some pretty dire stuff for me to find it all that terrible. teenagers pretentiously talking about how school sucks and they like driving around listening to music is just kinda... idk even if you dont think its funny its hardly something to object so strenuously too imo

Well they're starting to disprove my theory that people raised in the church of Scientology turn out more normal compared those who get into it later in life.

None of what they are talking about sounds very much like Scientology jargon tbh.

More like good old-fashioned common sense.

otm

this interview is delightful fuiud

"I gave one little quote and my dad got silly
- he said 'you're moving with your auntie and uncle in west philly'"

I'm always confused when people single out one of the lone black legacy families in Hollywood as where they want to feel gross about occupation of undue cultural space.

― Greer, Monday, November 17, 2014 9:01 PM Bookmark

mm hmmm

do they even take up that much cultural space these days? will smith's only made two movies this decade, and the one that wasn't a sequel to a 90s hit and co-starred his son bombed. jada's a supporting character on a tv show, the kids make mixtapes and say pretentious shit.

not going to tell someone they have to do a cartwheel because some incredibly rich people have raised their kids to talk like new age cult leaders, but like, if this gets you frothing than don't go a beverly hills grocery store, you'll choke on your tongue

bless their pretentious hearts

WILLOW: I went to school for one year. It was the best experience but the worst experience. The best experience because I was, like, “Oh, now I know why kids are so depressed.” But it was the worst experience because I was depressed.

like that interview makes one wonder if jaden and willow are twin aspects of the buddha returned or at least if they think there's a good likelihood of that being true
and with agency, what is the difference
om mani padme hum

First of all, if anyone thinks I am singling out the Smith clan for occupying too much cultural space because they are black, and that by implication I have a problem with black people occupying cultural space in general then just come out and say it. Let's have that argument/discussion/whatever. I think that's ridiculous and my posting history on this board reflects that but if someone else thinks otherwise then by all means school me on it.

That being said, speaking for myself I hate dynasties in general, be they of the political, cultural or royal stripe, but this thread is about the Smith's kid(s), so I posted about them. We can talk about the Osbournes or Miley or whoever else if people think that's warranted but rest assured I find them equally loathsome. And not just on a flaunting privelege level but also on a "damn that is some shitty parenting" level, cuz what the parents are usually doing in these situations is setting their kids up for a life under the media microscope where all their awkward teenage lashing-out and experimenting more often than not results in a rehab visit/reality TV show. They raise children with an insane level of entitlement and lack of perspective and then the kids go off the rails once they start exploring what it means to be an adult and hooray lucky us the public gets to be endlessly subjected to it, presented to us as "entertainment". The Smiths are not alone in doing this by any means - altho tbf I do think Will has taken it kind of to a next level with Jaden's movie "career", I am a little at a loss to think of another action star who has tried so hard/invested so much in pushing his kid's career and tying it so explicitly to his own.

so sayeth this cranky old man

None of what they are talking about sounds very much like Scientology jargon tbh.

More like good old-fashioned common sense.

― Sonic Dieways (latebloomer), Monday, November 17, 2014 11:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol this is exactly what scientology's child curriculum is like, "let's use common sense to build everything up from base principles"

these kids are pretty entertaining, though. I like the concept of Willow and Jaden.

the jaden album is pretty enjoyable boom bap via based god stuff tbh

Personally, I agree that Will Smith pushing the 100m creation of a sci-fi metaphor for passing the movie star torch to his son is exceptional madness, and considering the family's history with scientology (google "new village leadership academy") "these kids are trip!" is arguably a glib assessment of the situation.

However, if you find yourself regularly pleading with ilx to give you the benefit of the doubt that your bile is devoid of sexism/racism/etc maybe you should consider how you've been expressing that bile

"these kids are a trip!" i mean