not sure about the production on the album, though only heard it in the background. i dont really care for the rza's 'live band' sound. will always love wu-tang, no matter what they do, but they do sound a bit flabby on this.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 12:35 (nine years ago) link
no way this is listenable
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 13:22 (nine years ago) link
kinda boring
― j., Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link
I am apprehensive about listening to this
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
after a full listen........blah. my early optimism has been thoroughly deflated. i legit like "ruckus in B minor" and "ron o'neal", and "pioneer the frontier" has a great RZA-in-throwback-mode beat, but miracle is wack as hell, most tracks not previously named have corny production that overshadows decent verses. the use of trap-ish synths on "hold the heater" is awful.
just waiting on the sockooki "told ya so" moment, cuz iiiiiiit's comin.
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link
Yeah. Hearing each new track for the first time, I tend to have one of two reactions: 1. nice beat, I wonder how RZA is going to corny it up with the chorus, or 2. oh no. this (horn/rock style chorus/extended obvious 70s soul) intro is going to recur again and again right?
We Will Fight, Keep Watch, Miracle, A Better Tomorrow, are some of the worst things he's done. I preferred him in introverted sonic-experiments-that-don't-really-work mode (Bob Digi 2, Birth of a Prince) than this extroverted garbage.
― paulhw, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link
he hasn't cared about music in at least a decade. he wants to make movies.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link
aside from the three tracks i named & maybe necklace this just seems more and more misguided with each reconsideration
that said, the new ghostface killah is quite enjoyable
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:09 (nine years ago) link
why hasnt rza made a movie with the clan yet? seems odd. like, forget another half hearted album, do a film together instead (i say this as i have heard the tarantino produced for him wasnt as bad as some thought). id watch a semi-jarmusch-ish weird indie artsy movie with the wu.
― StillAdvance, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link
thats what he tried to do with man w/ the iron fists, minus having other dudes in the wu act in it. it's not half bad if you know the goofiness you're getting into.
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link
man w/ the iron fists is a legitimately entertaining movie that I have watched at least 2x and would watch again
― I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
always love hearing Ghost and G-Rap together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaCNG8lpZso
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link
RZA was a lot better when he did more sample-based stuff.
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link