same
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link
voted Spewn
― Evan, Friday, 12 December 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link
feel like its an interesting comparison cause they are extremely similar bands sitting on either side of the hipster/indie divide
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link
Facts and figures to help in your decision making: The first Strokes album is better than the entire Spoon discography. The second Strokes album is roughly as good as the entire Spoon discography. The entire Spoon discography is better than the Strokes' third album. Spoon was the backing band on the first Sally Crewe album, which is a pretty good album. Spoon is a terrible band name.
― Mr. Bojangus (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 December 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link
strokes bro is a much better songwriter than spoon dude is prob the thing that puts them over the top imo, like spoons phrasing particularly is often very awkward
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 18:56 (nine years ago) link
both are very over produced bands but strokes musicianship shines through more where spoon particularly their recent work sounds more like a beat than a band which is unfortunate imho cause they are excellent musicians
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link
c.) none of the above
― Mailkhimp (Johnny Fever), Friday, 12 December 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link
both these bands are terrible and boring but i suppose that is not the fun answer this thread is looking for
― marcos, Friday, 12 December 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link
wld prob rate their albums like
1 is this it2 kill the moonlight3 room on fire4 idk who care lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link
― marcos, Friday, December 12, 2014 1:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i mean they are both good if you want to listen to something very carefully crafted thats not particularly exceptionally stylish or inventive, they r good tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link
most noteworthy thing abt either is prob the strokes influence on fashion
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link
strokes made some good music for approx 2 years the spoon have made good music for almost 20 years
― iatee, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link
def something to weigh in yr calculations
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link
Strokes never resonated for me and I don't know why.
― Evan, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link
tho spoons early work doesnt do much for me
(when i listened to it a long time ago)
I wouldn't say Spoon hasn't been particularly inventive...
Spoon being somewhat inventive (Kill the Moonlight): funSpoon being pretty straightforward (Girls Can't Tell): kinda boring
― Evan, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link
ya spoons minimalism is def their most avant aspect
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link
spoon started with 3 really great lively sharp rock albums and then a lot of repetitive coasting
strokes same but 1
― goole, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link
this is gonna be tough.
spoon have been more consistently interesting but the strokes' best songs shine really, really brightly.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link
Spoon by a country mile.
― DavidLeeRoth, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link
both singers employ affected rock guy voices
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link
i was gonna start a new york dolls vs aerosmith poll, this just reminded me.
― goole, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link
lol
Spoon's early work is the only thing that resonates with me, so they have that in their favor. Also, I truly believe the Strokes have the worst-recorded snare drum in all of popular music, so away with them!
― Mailkhimp (Johnny Fever), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link
it's not funny, i hate starting threads, this is a big deal for me
― goole, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link
Singing through a telephone vs. singing with an affected speech impediment
― Mr. Bojangus (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link
The variety of spin-offs the Strokes engendered only makes for a stronger case for Spoon.
― cpl593H, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link
have the worst-recorded snare drum in all of popular music
you're forgetting something: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FQJpgPekoJE/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAg/Ej4PeuAKm5M/photo.jpg
― goole, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link
every (midwestern) city has like 9 spooner bands
That's an easy one to forget.
― DavidLeeRoth, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link
theres that one band who had a hit a few years back that sounds exactly like the strokes theyre called like colorful balloon or something
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link
I suppose with a duo you get less side projects which is a plus here.
― cpl593H, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link
Facts and figures to help in your decision making: The first Strokes album is better than the entire Spoon discography. The second Strokes album is roughly as good as the entire Spoon discography. The entire Spoon discography is better than the Strokes' third album.
this about sums it up, except the second Strokes album might even be better than the entire Spoon discography.
― skip, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
The first Strokes album is better than the entire Spoon discography.
I don't even remotely know the entire Spoon discography, and I'm not much on The Strokes either, yet I am entirely sure this is true.
― The Thelonius Monk of nu-ki? (Dan Peterson), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link
^^^yes
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link
the Strokes have the worst-recorded snare drum in all of popular music
This really only applies to the first album, really, but it's still not superb on anything else.
― Mailkhimp (Johnny Fever), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:20 (nine years ago) link
the song 'metal detektor' is better than the whole strokes discography
― iatee, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link
^^^ SOMEONE had to say it
― I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link
& I don't even hate Is This It?, I just think this thread is giving short shrift to Spoon's immense body of quality indie rock snoozers
― I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link
snoozecore poll. CAN >>> both
i've never heard the strokes
― j., Friday, 12 December 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link
Spoon's best album is their first, The Strokes' best album is their latest.
― Mailkhimp (Johnny Fever), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link
first two strokes albums are classic
i don't "get" spoon, their songs aren't catchy or anything
― brimstead, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link
haven't heard the last two strokes albums :(
foh, j!
― goole, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
really?
Spoon wins this easily for me. The Strokes never seemed to accomplish much of anything beyond reinvigorate a Johnny Thunders aesthetic.
― Darin, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:32 (nine years ago) link
is anyone going to be able to top johnny fever in the challops-race
― iatee, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:32 (nine years ago) link
lol prob not
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link
hilariously clearly spoon
― soyrev, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 02:28 (nine years ago) link
this is quite easily Spoon. the Strokes peaked really early and was never able to better their second album. Spoons run from Kill the Moonlight to Transference is pretty remarkable.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 03:01 (nine years ago) link
"Is This It?" vs. "I Get Wet" poll seems slightly more worthwhile
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 05:25 (nine years ago) link
Please don't mistake this as me stanning for The Strokes by any means, but all the talk about them peaking early and people saying they haven't listened to the later albums need to hear Comedown Machine asap. It's the "Rhapsody in Blue" to Is This It?'s "Chopsticks".
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 06:27 (nine years ago) link
comedown machine is my favorite strokes album at this point
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 06:29 (nine years ago) link
Spoon up through Kill The Moonlight are super-catchy fun indie-pop; everything after is boring as hell and sounds the same, like they're the indie Foo Fighters.
Strokes first album makes me want to shove a needle into my eardrum now - so monochromatic and lazy. I can only barely remember the second and never heard anything after.
Spoon wins by several laps, but at least the Strokes aren't Interpol.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 07:19 (nine years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link
100 votes
― da croupier, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 00:50 (nine years ago) link
important quesh
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 00:57 (nine years ago) link
both bands are narcs, probably
― brimstead, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 01:07 (nine years ago) link
everything fucked about ILM in one simple poll
― A cat having an apron (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 07:22 (nine years ago) link
take it you're a big [whatever one didn't win] fan
― tl;dr, gukbar, morbis detrius (wins), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 07:28 (nine years ago) link
xxp nah, strokes are rich kids, spoon are homeowners
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 13:57 (nine years ago) link
had a feeling the silent spoonjority wld carry this
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 15:03 (nine years ago) link
I would rather spoon than have a stroke.
― My Name Is You (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link
― A cat having an apron (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, December 17, 2014 2:22 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
actually, more surprised that the strokes didn't win, given the ILX trend towards "down-with-the-corny-indie-fuxx"
both bands are (or at least once were) pretty cool/good at what they do (or did) imo
― franch montana (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link
then again it's also fun to h8 corny indie fuxx, conundrum
(xp irl lols at that)
― franch montana (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link
― A cat having an apron (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:22 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― tl;dr, gukbar, morbis detrius (wins), Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
No, I think he's upset that someone polled two bands with white guys playing guitars or something.
― Darin, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
nah just inexplicable support for Spoon
― A cat having an apron (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
i polled them because theyre so similar *sniff*
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
Inexplicable support for the most acclaimed band of the 00s?
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
http://www.ebbemunk.dk/alice/48mirror.jpg
― A cat having an apron (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link
Strokes had a great debut and diminishing returns. Spoon has been consistent and far more interesting.
― Moka, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:33 (nine years ago) link
I think the only Strokes related album I like other than Is This It? is that Little Joy album, although it's too low key to be truly memorable.
― Moka, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link
Individual albums polled against each other might have given the Strokes the win, but we were polling bands in here and Spoon is really the better band. + not obnoxious like the strokes.
― Moka, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link
what interested me about this poll tbh was really the moral dimension, feel like theres something so perfect abt the very similar cultures of these two bands and how it relates to their very similar music, the contrast, the narcissism of small differences going, like the strokes are douchey and relevant (at one point), the spoon are boring but good guys
+ not obnoxious like the strokes.
― Moka, Wednesday, December 17, 2014 12:39 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah, Comedown Machine is probably their best album. Had no faith they would manage to do anything worthwhile with a more tight production but it works.
― Moka, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
I always thought the divide would come from a band like Vampire Weekend. Seems to me like the oppositte band a Strokes fan would enjoy.
― Moka, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
Spoon's entire premise seems to be being middlegrounded.
― Moka, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
vampy weeknd def fits in there somewhere but these two bands their music is so similar felt like it was the perfect template
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
the main difference between the two bands for me how Spoon creates alterations in standard rock rhythms without compromising accessibility. The Strokes p much play 16th notes 24/7.
― Darin, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link
for Noodle Vague and to back Scik Mouthy: http://www.metacritic.com/feature/best-music-of-the-decade
Our top overall artist of the decade: SpoonBefore we get to the top albums of the past ten years, let's take a look at the best artists of the decade. First, we decided to highlight the top overall artists of the past 10 years by picking the artists who met the following three criteria: (a) released at least 3 albums from 2000-09; (b) at least two of those albums must be "great" (with a Metascore of 81 or higher); and (c) the average (mean) Metascore for all of their releases from the decade must also be 81 or higher.The top 35 artists meeting all three criteria are displayed below (sorted by number of great albums, then by Metascore average), and the band topping the list was a surprise to us as well, albeit a pleasant one. The Austin, Texas indie-rock band Spoon may not be the most prolific band of the decade, but they were the most consistently great. From 2001's stellar Girls Can Tell to 2007's, well, stellar Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga, the Britt Daniel-led group received accolades from the music press and music fans for their impeccable songwriting and addictive songs.
Before we get to the top albums of the past ten years, let's take a look at the best artists of the decade. First, we decided to highlight the top overall artists of the past 10 years by picking the artists who met the following three criteria: (a) released at least 3 albums from 2000-09; (b) at least two of those albums must be "great" (with a Metascore of 81 or higher); and (c) the average (mean) Metascore for all of their releases from the decade must also be 81 or higher.
The top 35 artists meeting all three criteria are displayed below (sorted by number of great albums, then by Metascore average), and the band topping the list was a surprise to us as well, albeit a pleasant one. The Austin, Texas indie-rock band Spoon may not be the most prolific band of the decade, but they were the most consistently great. From 2001's stellar Girls Can Tell to 2007's, well, stellar Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga, the Britt Daniel-led group received accolades from the music press and music fans for their impeccable songwriting and addictive songs.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 18 December 2014 02:59 (nine years ago) link
haha perfect
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 December 2014 03:01 (nine years ago) link
Spoon never put across an image as successfully as The Strokes c.Is This It but I have found them consistently sonically rewarding+they probably paved the way for a lot of the bands being discussed in Hip™ for Basics
― I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Thursday, 18 December 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
and like, Kill The Moonlight is just such a... good-sounding album!I don't know how to explain it, I put it on when I have a headache & the headache magically goes away. because the sounds are so good
― I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Thursday, 18 December 2014 03:16 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5FH3o6icWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbXcthY4124
imo these are two of the best strokes songs ever
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 19 December 2014 01:39 (nine years ago) link
one good thing about this poll is i made me go back through the strokes stuff on spotify and man did I underrated Comedown Machine! feel like maybe we all just weren't in a place to care about a new strokes album at the time. guitar work on that is bonkers, hammond is running so many efx to made his guitar sound like the synths on "take on me" by a-ha
actually angles is better/weirder than i remember it too
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 December 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
great strokes album could be made out of combining first impressions and angles
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 19 December 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
make a spotify playlist imho
― lag∞n, Friday, 19 December 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
listening to comedown machine now, the vocals are very different
― lag∞n, Friday, 19 December 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link
bah, refuted by science *shakes fist*
― Brutal avant-prog that i only voted for (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 December 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
i never checked out comedown machine until last week thanks to that ghastly "take on me" rip they'd released, but some of it was surprisingly pretty. also surprisingly/ironically similar to phoenix. would have thought they'd be too self-conscious to jock the steez of their steez-jockers
― da croupier, Friday, 19 December 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, December 19, 2014 12:13 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lag∞n, Friday, December 19, 2014 12:14 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
do it!
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 December 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
wow first impressions is worse than it was in my memory
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 19 December 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link
horribly brickwalled, too
― Simon H., Friday, 19 December 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link
You Only Live Once, Juicebox, Heart in a Cage, Razorblade, Ask Me Anything, Electricityscape, Fear of Sleep, 15 Minutes and Ize of the World are the keepers on First Impressions. Throw in Juicebox's B-Side Hawaii and that's a solid album.
I really liked Angles when it came out but looking at the track listing now I only really remember the first two songs.
Agree that Comedown Machine is pretty underrated. I really didn't think they had a song like Call It Fate Call It Karma in them.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 19 December 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
hoo boy do i hate "15 minutes"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 19 December 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
Always found his Shane MacGowan really entertaining.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 19 December 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link