The first Strokes album is better than the entire Spoon discography.
I don't even remotely know the entire Spoon discography, and I'm not much on The Strokes either, yet I am entirely sure this is true.
― The Thelonius Monk of nu-ki? (Dan Peterson), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link
^^^yes
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link
the Strokes have the worst-recorded snare drum in all of popular music
This really only applies to the first album, really, but it's still not superb on anything else.
― Mailkhimp (Johnny Fever), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:20 (nine years ago) link
the song 'metal detektor' is better than the whole strokes discography
― iatee, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link
^^^ SOMEONE had to say it
― I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link
& I don't even hate Is This It?, I just think this thread is giving short shrift to Spoon's immense body of quality indie rock snoozers
― I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link
snoozecore poll. CAN >>> both
i've never heard the strokes
― j., Friday, 12 December 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link
Spoon's best album is their first, The Strokes' best album is their latest.
― Mailkhimp (Johnny Fever), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link
first two strokes albums are classic
i don't "get" spoon, their songs aren't catchy or anything
― brimstead, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link
haven't heard the last two strokes albums :(
foh, j!
― goole, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
really?
Spoon wins this easily for me. The Strokes never seemed to accomplish much of anything beyond reinvigorate a Johnny Thunders aesthetic.
― Darin, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:32 (nine years ago) link
is anyone going to be able to top johnny fever in the challops-race
― iatee, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:32 (nine years ago) link
lol prob not
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link
tho i have also not heard the strokes most recent effort
That's not a nuisance challop btw, I honestly feel that way (I'd guess 95% of the talk about Telephono on ilm is from me).
― Mailkhimp (Johnny Fever), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link
i cldnt even tell u with 100% certainty how many albums the strokes have but im going with 4
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link
the Spoon singer should sing with the Strokes drummer drumming, I think I would like that more than anything either of these two crews of messy haired ne'er-do-wells have brought into the world thus far
― I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link
Regarding all the "snoozecore" type comments- it's funny that ilx's default position for mainstream indie is negative and for radio pop it's default position is positive and I am cynically suspicious that both of those are just the result of contrarianism.
― Evan, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link
(xp ^^^ challops)
― I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link
racoon tanuki has been found!
― goole, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link
voted strokesthough i really like the older girls can tell spoon stuff that was off-brand archers of loaf type stuff
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
these bands shd merge
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
the third song on the fifth strokes record is better than the fourth song on the second spoon record
THERE I SAID IT
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
nonononononono I admit it's a "cynical suspicion"
― Evan, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
t Evan I only called it snoozecore because I was afraid of getting ridiculed if I expressed my true feelings *blushes deeply*
― I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
realistically though, "Dragostea din tei" mops the floor with all USA male vocal pop music of the 21st century
― I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link
i like Is This It, half of the follow-up and "YOLO" but spoon would have that beat if they broke up before Is This It came out
― da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link
heh, nah I'm not saying it's to that degree. Just people are more likely to make fun of "indie" when it has mainstream appeal
xps
― Evan, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link
telephono stuff sounds kinda great now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rEGx9Aou_0
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link
appear more likely*
there's basically a two year window where i could understand preferring the strokes to spoon, and that's just due to my challop that Kill The Moonlight is their most inessential album
― da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
tried to listen to series of sneaks but just switched over to kill the moonlight which is what happens when i try to listen to spoon, love this album
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
Is This It is like the best rock record of the 2000s (the decade, not the century).
― Mr. Bojangus (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link
But probably also the century.
But at least of 2001.
I think I have negative associations form when it came out cause I tried and could not get into it.
― Evan, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link
the best rock album of the 2000s pound for pound is royal trux pound for pound
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link
Is This It is a solid album of tight guitar hooks over pulsebeats with a dude groaning vaguely about his sex life over it. spoon has like five of those.
― da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link
xpost Only because the rest of Trux's discography was released in the '90s. If they had waited, their entire output could've been the best rock album of the 2000s.
― Mr. Bojangus (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link
i might rank every hot snakes album over is this it, julian casablancas' Iggy Pop Eating Peanut Butter voice has not grown more poignant with time
― da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
There are probably better rock records from the 2000s but I haven't heard them so I don't think they count.
― Mr. Bojangus (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
meanwhile britt is like the paul rudd of indie rock
― da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link
stokes first album is fine, idgaf about them after that. big spoon fan tho, folks professing to love spoon's more avant/minimal qualities really need to listen to transference.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link
every hot snakes album is better than is this it
― call all destroyer, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link
julian casablancas' Iggy Pop Eating Peanut Butter voice has not grown more poignant with time
― da croupier, Friday, December 12, 2014 2:49 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
like rudd, britt first caught some people's attention in the mid-'90s, profile kept gradually raising through reliable, amiable work and HAS HE EVEN AGED AT ALL
― da croupier, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
Love Spoon but their best record isn't even an album, it's that single they put out where both songs are dis tracks about their former A&R guy ("The Agony of Lafitte"/"Lafitte Don't Fail Me Now"). A Series of Sneaks, Kill The Moonlight, Gimme Fiction and this latest one are all time.
I like all three of the first Strokes records a lot better than most here, and even like the third better than the second, which I know puts me in challops territory.
If I had to choose, probably Spoon, although a Strokes best-of might beat them.
― Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link
and like, Kill The Moonlight is just such a... good-sounding album!I don't know how to explain it, I put it on when I have a headache & the headache magically goes away. because the sounds are so good
― I can just, like, YOLO with Uber (bernard snowy), Thursday, 18 December 2014 03:16 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5FH3o6icWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbXcthY4124
imo these are two of the best strokes songs ever
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 19 December 2014 01:39 (nine years ago) link
one good thing about this poll is i made me go back through the strokes stuff on spotify and man did I underrated Comedown Machine! feel like maybe we all just weren't in a place to care about a new strokes album at the time. guitar work on that is bonkers, hammond is running so many efx to made his guitar sound like the synths on "take on me" by a-ha
actually angles is better/weirder than i remember it too
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 December 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
great strokes album could be made out of combining first impressions and angles
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 19 December 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
make a spotify playlist imho
― lag∞n, Friday, 19 December 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
listening to comedown machine now, the vocals are very different
― lag∞n, Friday, 19 December 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link
bah, refuted by science *shakes fist*
― Brutal avant-prog that i only voted for (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 December 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
i never checked out comedown machine until last week thanks to that ghastly "take on me" rip they'd released, but some of it was surprisingly pretty. also surprisingly/ironically similar to phoenix. would have thought they'd be too self-conscious to jock the steez of their steez-jockers
― da croupier, Friday, 19 December 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, December 19, 2014 12:13 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lag∞n, Friday, December 19, 2014 12:14 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
do it!
― you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 December 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
wow first impressions is worse than it was in my memory
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 19 December 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link
horribly brickwalled, too
― Simon H., Friday, 19 December 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link
You Only Live Once, Juicebox, Heart in a Cage, Razorblade, Ask Me Anything, Electricityscape, Fear of Sleep, 15 Minutes and Ize of the World are the keepers on First Impressions. Throw in Juicebox's B-Side Hawaii and that's a solid album.
I really liked Angles when it came out but looking at the track listing now I only really remember the first two songs.
Agree that Comedown Machine is pretty underrated. I really didn't think they had a song like Call It Fate Call It Karma in them.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 19 December 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
hoo boy do i hate "15 minutes"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 19 December 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
Always found his Shane MacGowan really entertaining.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 19 December 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link