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yeah - this sums it up well.
At times it seems Koenig’s true topic is not the factual case, but her own feelings about it.
She is fascinated by the puzzle of whether a guy whom she finds likable could really have been capable of strangling a teenage girl with his bare hands. She returns to this theme again and again. She is more like a novelist playing with the classic question of “what is evil?” than a savvy journalist hunting fresh evidence.
― Brio2, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
Comparing this to Fatal Vision is pretty bizarre, but I do agree that the story is as much about Koenig as it is about the murder which definitely begs question of "why do this"?
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 15 December 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
takedown of Serial, op-ed from Philadelphia public radio
http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/blogs/centre-square/item/76311-with-one-episode-left-will-serial-soar-or-crash-and-burn
― Brio2, Monday, December 15, 2014 2:05 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I liked this. And if *that's the point* -- then it's sort of a narcissistic exercise, isn't it?
― man alive, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link
"But how does this affect me, Sarah Koenig?"
― man alive, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link
that's what i realized was driving me nuts lately
i dont think i really care so much abt how she feels
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 December 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
Sometimes I feel like "Ok, you find that hard to believe, I don't, so what?"
― man alive, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link
Now I'm imagining Serial featured as a segment of a TAL episode exploring podcasters and the surreal internal places their projects took them
― rip van wanko, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
bet you they decide on an ending before they start pumping out the next one.
― Brio2, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link
― rip van wanko, Monday, December 15, 2014 2:54 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This doesn't seem that far-fetched!
― man alive, Monday, 15 December 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link
Let's let it end before we "decide" that the ending failed.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 15 December 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
Ep. 12: It Was Don
― man alive, Monday, 15 December 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
Ep. 12: Adnan's New Squarespace website
― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Monday, 15 December 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link
A guy who shoplifted from that mall remembers that there was no Lenscrafters. Whole alibi is false.
― man alive, Monday, 15 December 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link
Turns out it's all happening inside a snow globe in the hands of an autistic streaker.
― Brio2, Monday, 15 December 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link
people really think SK is using a "solemn NPR monotone"? if anything she's too jokey and colloquial IMO.
the show is like those Dateline NBC episodes that are entirely dedicated to one criminal case that I used to watch when I was a kid stuck in the house on a friday night and only had 3 channels to choose from, but made by and for gen x/y instead of boomers. so for me it feels cozy and familiar.
― slam dunk, Monday, 15 December 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link
yeah totally Sarah Koenig is the new Bill Kurtis
― Brio2, Monday, 15 December 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link
yeah I wouldn't call it solemn at all. It's very conversational, would almost say "affected immaturity," that sort of "gee gosh I'm just wondering well I don't know" stuff she does.
― man alive, Monday, 15 December 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link
agreed
level of glibness is at times v on-the-nose
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 15 December 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link
Slam dunk nailed it - it's a Gen X voice. Kind of straining to be hip ("I was totally that kid stoned at the party") and unable to commit to anything.
― Brio2, Monday, 15 December 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link
It does seem sort of effective as an interview style, like maybe it gets people to drop their guard with her. I've actually noticed Terry Gross does it sometimes, probably strategically.
― man alive, Monday, 15 December 2014 22:23 (nine years ago) link
I relistened to episode 1 the other day and I was struck by how, in this NPR-ish aw shucks way, it was totally selling the prurient stuff off the top. "For months now I've had to ask teenagers about their sex lives and drug use!"
― Brio2, Monday, 15 December 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
Worst song of 2014:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8xyfK4lES8
― polyphonic, Monday, 15 December 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link
ughhhhhhh why
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 02:28 (nine years ago) link
it was too painful to watch more than 30s
― kola superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 02:48 (nine years ago) link
yeah I couldn't
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 03:03 (nine years ago) link
I labeled it, buyer beware
it gets worse though, keep listening
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 03:09 (nine years ago) link
like fuck
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 03:25 (nine years ago) link
I just spit at my computer
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 10:07 (nine years ago) link
Good grief I'm so happy I've been staying away from all the fandom over this.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 10:55 (nine years ago) link
If you had to click and fully experience one, this song or the My Little Pony boiled in the jar of oh god I can't even say it, which would you pick???
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 12:42 (nine years ago) link
I hate the theme music for Serial so much. In a couple of days, I may never have to hear it again (hope hope).
― Hark! The Village People (fake penthouse letters mcgee), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 12:46 (nine years ago) link
I would literally pick any other option vs. listening to this again. I would rather listen to an hour of all of my loved ones frightened and crying over this.
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link
i watched all of it. i hate his hands.
― kola superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 13:08 (nine years ago) link
oh man, that guy has like a dozen other rap videos. I was kind of hoping he was just a strawman TAL listener brought to life and handed a microphone by Sarah Vowell
― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 13:13 (nine years ago) link
holy crap
― Brio2, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 13:47 (nine years ago) link
the comments you guys, wave after wave of positive comments
he has fans
― gr8080, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link
we are doomed
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
Oh wow I just watched that and it is really bad! I don't like anything about it!
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
fuck that guy and his henley shirt
― man alive, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link
fuck that guy and his park slope back patio
so much secondhand embarrassment
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
he kind of looks like the "fifth beatle" of that Serial producer group photo
― man alive, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link
looking into this douche, it seems he's part of this whole dark world of rap cosplay where guys dress up as famous people and rap whitely at one another
― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link
oh he's one of the dudes in those historical figure vs historical figure rap videos (the only one I remember seeing is the Keynes vs. Hayek one -- or Keynes vs Friedman or something).
― man alive, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 20:00 (nine years ago) link
They can fuck off as well
― cardamon, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
there was a month-or-so with regular airing of that commercial with dude dressed as a pirate and rapping about being the 'high seas caesar' or some shit.
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link
it was the worst
at least Hayek/Keynes was an actual historical argument. The Serial rap guy does stuff like Stephen King vs. Edgar Allen Poe. What was their beef again?
― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link
Poe's ghost hit King with a car
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link
Poe's brother wrote House of Leaves
― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link