finally picked up the anderson valley goses - the one with the stupid name and the blood orange one. they are good, but not as good as the westbrook gose. also the cans are hideous, such terrible design
― marcos, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 20:50 (nine years ago) link
i am also super psyched by mystic brewing in chelsea, MA. their table saison was outstanding. they have tons of other weird and seasonal saisons that i need to check out. like their whole brewing approach
― marcos, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link
marcos otm re: goses
mh - idk if this qualifies as an "american-style" pils - as cad pointed out it is very true to the czech style - but the heater allen pils is phenomenal. also really dig the occidental kolsch and breakside's pilsner and post-time kolsch.
in general i think the "american" session stuff is crap though, a lot of bitterness without any of the floral/citrus/pine/pepper payoff. seems like all my favorite american session stuff is only american by name as opposed to style
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
berliner weisses and goses are definitely my low-abv drinks of choice these days. de garde just got their bu weisse into stores at $4.50 a bomber, only 2-3% abv and pretty delicious (if far from their best offering)
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
i scored some blood orange gose' recently - they were great imo
― Mordy, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link
American session pales: If you ever get your hands on Russian River's Dribble Belt, it's one of the most delicious session pales I've enjoyed.
I echo the berlinerweiße & gose love in general but not this time of year, moreso in the hot weather. That said, I anticipate cracking a deGarde Hose (hopped Gose) this Thursday night. Also, I think the Anderson Valley goses are fantastic.
CW's La Petite Mort tasted very bourbon-y, basically it tasted like watered down bourbon with not a lot of beer flavors for balance.
Beer trade grammar insanity: "3F" should be reserved for Drie Fonteinen whereas "FFF" should designate "3 Floyds". tmyk!
I'm getting some Kuhnhenn Raspberry Eisbock this week, it's been highly recommended to me.
Speaking of session beer, I had one (1) single bomber of that "rare" bundle-only Firestone Walker Velvet Mocha Merlin brewed with Intellegentsia coffee and woke up to one of the worst hangover in many, many moons. 4.5% ABV has never treated me so poorly. Ready to permanently cross Firestone Walker shelf beers off my list.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link
mass only i think but these guys do great work http://www.notchbrewing.com/
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 00:12 (nine years ago) link
always been curious about notch, wanted to try it but was worried it i'd get burned with a boring beer. i'll try it now
― marcos, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 00:14 (nine years ago) link
cad what do you think of mystic
i haven't had too many of their beers, i did get one of the ones where they were like "this has fruit and crazy wild yeast" and it just tasted like a boring saison. the table beer was ok. i'm kind of wait and see on them.
notch beers are not super crazy, but it's by design. they're just low-abv beers in basic styles that are good. they make by far the best <5% ipa i've ever had.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 00:26 (nine years ago) link
At churchkey now and it kind of sucks because the menu is full of Christmas beers, which normally isn't my cup of beer. Still, have been drinking some good stuff. Silent Night from Mother Earth was really good.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 00:45 (nine years ago) link
yeah i have been craving a good christmas beer lately. cascade is starting to bottle gingersnaps, that stuff is great
went to my first bottle share over the weekend. it was weird. i got to try so much crazy stuff though, including cantillon (another first! never thought i wanted my beer to literally smell like a barn floor but hot damn), perennial 17 (mint chocolate imp stout and it works), all of the eclipse fifty fifty variants (high west rye and pappy were my faves), the fremont cinnamon coffee bbomb (my new fave imperial stout fwiw), a ton of insnaely high abv beers like portugese brandy barrel sucre and chocolate rain, and my own personal new reigning champ for best pumpkin beer ever - cigar city good gourd almighty
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 01:11 (nine years ago) link
Which cantillion? I'm down to 2 bottles left that I brought back from Brussels. Sadness.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 01:15 (nine years ago) link
Related, I made a Miller Lite drinking coworker try 3 Founteinen Oude Geuze tonight.
She did not like it.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 01:17 (nine years ago) link
Oh also good tonight, cognac barrel aged Santa's little helper.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link
lol good work
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link
xps - fou foune, lou pepe, and mamouche. lou pepe in particular gives a new meaning to funk, why can't we do this in america yet
i will say tho that jester king atrial rubicite was def a strong showing for the american sour scene. also de garde imperial peach bu killed it, those guys know their way around a stone fruit
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 01:25 (nine years ago) link
tho tbf de garde is a guy and a gal
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 01:26 (nine years ago) link
One of the cantillion's I have left is a Lou! Never had it, so excited to finally try it. Just need an occasion.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 01:34 (nine years ago) link
Isn't the think about the lambics though is the spontaneous fermentation? It's specific to the place, so you could never make a cantillion in a place that isn't the cantillion brewery.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 01:39 (nine years ago) link
Last 2 nights had a bourbon county coffee nightcap. Great idea.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 01:43 (nine years ago) link
CAD, it was great, it took great effort to get her here and she asked the server that would be like a miller lite and before he could answer I just told him to bring the 3F.
After that she did order a Reindeer droppings by ridgeway brewing and she found that acceptable.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 01:51 (nine years ago) link
A guy can dream
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 02:02 (nine years ago) link
did she make it through the whole glass of 3f?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 02:07 (nine years ago) link
I've only had one of my BCS bottles this year, but whether it was the day or night or just good timing, it tasted so stupidly perfect that I just wanted to curl up and go to sleep and dream of the next one. But then, I've been plowing through a pile of New Glarus lately, and that stuff is so mild/subtle compared to BCS that maybe it was just the contrast.
Anyone else see this? Pretty funny, I thought: http://www.reddit.com/r/beercirclejerk/comments/2ktktj/2015_craft_beer_predictions/
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 02:07 (nine years ago) link
To save everyone the link:
2015 Craft Beer PredictionsJanuaryBell's does not release a session IPA. It would be called '1 hearted' if it existed, but it doesn't.Some dicks get like $100K on kickstarter to open a breweryFebruarySome brewery in bumfuck nowhere, Nebraska, probably? releases 8 bottles of a BA imperial stout. Hanes profits rise as all beer nerds replace the underwear they just shit.Yuengling continues its slow, determined march into a new market that doesn't care about it.MarchThe Bruery announces its latest beer is infected. beer geeks are PISSED because they were super pumped to spend $30 on a bomber of it.Oberon is released, beer nerds rejoice. Finally, a hoppy wheat ale is widely available.AprilKBS comes out, and the brand-new baby beer nerds go nuts, asking about how to cellar it. They're advised to drink it fresh, but don't listen.3 floyds releases DL. It's better than 2012.MayDogfish releases a beer with Ringo Starr featuring beetle shells or some shitSome idiot writes another stupid article about 'what is craft beer??', and beer nerds shout their opinions at one anotherJuneBell's continues to release a wide line of great, to-style beers at fair pricesThe brewer's association raises the volume cap on the definition of a craft breweryJulySome sours come out, are the new IPAsthe BJCP releases new style guidelines, recognizing the following new styles: East Coast American IPA, West Coast American IPA, and Delaware Imperial IPA/Barleywine hybridAugustFlying Dog becomes the first major brewery in america to produce a cock ale. They call it 'PUT THIS COCK IN YOUR MOUTH' and the label has a trippy drawing of a penis on it.SeptemberAn ancient beer recipe for a bavarian-style lager is found by an archaeologist in what's know known as St. Louis, Missouri. The archaeologist teams up with Dogfish Head to reproduce this forgotten, refreshing 'american-style pilsner'OctoberLagunitas and Stone go 'in costume' as each other for a month. Lagunitas IPA is put in Stone IPA bottles, Stone IPA is put in Lagunitas IPA bottles, nobody fucking notices.Bell's continues to not release a session IPA. It continues to not be called '1 hearted'NovemberGoose Island releases bourbon county in 30 racks. The propietor's reserve is malort-barrel aged, and features poppy seeds, yellow mustard, chopped white onions, bright green sweet pickle relish, a dill pickle spear, tomato slices, pickled sport peppers and a dash of celery salt. ISO.DecemberThose dicks who got all that kickstarter money release their first beer and it's super infected and gross. ISO anywayThe Bruery cuts the shit, releases 7 swans a swimming, made with REAL FUCKING SWANS.
January
Bell's does not release a session IPA. It would be called '1 hearted' if it existed, but it doesn't.Some dicks get like $100K on kickstarter to open a brewery
February
Some brewery in bumfuck nowhere, Nebraska, probably? releases 8 bottles of a BA imperial stout. Hanes profits rise as all beer nerds replace the underwear they just shit.Yuengling continues its slow, determined march into a new market that doesn't care about it.
March
The Bruery announces its latest beer is infected. beer geeks are PISSED because they were super pumped to spend $30 on a bomber of it.Oberon is released, beer nerds rejoice. Finally, a hoppy wheat ale is widely available.
April
KBS comes out, and the brand-new baby beer nerds go nuts, asking about how to cellar it. They're advised to drink it fresh, but don't listen.3 floyds releases DL. It's better than 2012.
May
Dogfish releases a beer with Ringo Starr featuring beetle shells or some shitSome idiot writes another stupid article about 'what is craft beer??', and beer nerds shout their opinions at one another
June
Bell's continues to release a wide line of great, to-style beers at fair pricesThe brewer's association raises the volume cap on the definition of a craft brewery
July
Some sours come out, are the new IPAsthe BJCP releases new style guidelines, recognizing the following new styles: East Coast American IPA, West Coast American IPA, and Delaware Imperial IPA/Barleywine hybrid
August
Flying Dog becomes the first major brewery in america to produce a cock ale. They call it 'PUT THIS COCK IN YOUR MOUTH' and the label has a trippy drawing of a penis on it.
September
An ancient beer recipe for a bavarian-style lager is found by an archaeologist in what's know known as St. Louis, Missouri. The archaeologist teams up with Dogfish Head to reproduce this forgotten, refreshing 'american-style pilsner'
October
Lagunitas and Stone go 'in costume' as each other for a month. Lagunitas IPA is put in Stone IPA bottles, Stone IPA is put in Lagunitas IPA bottles, nobody fucking notices.Bell's continues to not release a session IPA. It continues to not be called '1 hearted'
November
Goose Island releases bourbon county in 30 racks. The propietor's reserve is malort-barrel aged, and features poppy seeds, yellow mustard, chopped white onions, bright green sweet pickle relish, a dill pickle spear, tomato slices, pickled sport peppers and a dash of celery salt. ISO.
December
Those dicks who got all that kickstarter money release their first beer and it's super infected and gross. ISO anywayThe Bruery cuts the shit, releases 7 swans a swimming, made with REAL FUCKING SWANS.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 02:09 (nine years ago) link
OTM
― some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 02:11 (nine years ago) link
haha I saw that on fb and thought about posting it
― dan m, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 02:17 (nine years ago) link
also Bell's session IPA is 2 Hearted imo
― dan m, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 02:18 (nine years ago) link
Nah, which was probably my master plan the whole time to drink it all.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 02:27 (nine years ago) link
FYI, I'm drinking a lot in the new era tonight, hence the chatty posts.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 02:29 (nine years ago) link
founders cbs tapping here in two days but i don't know if i can make it
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 02:44 (nine years ago) link
Seen it hitting around Michigan. Honestly, I think it is going to be such a cluster if it gets here I would probably avoid it.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 02:48 (nine years ago) link
CBS was one of the first whalez I had, won it at a raffle at a local liquor store a few years ago. Wonderful beer, but it is one of those that there will just be mass hysteria around when it is released again.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 02:50 (nine years ago) link
durnk
Pig Minds Vanilla Bitch Slap: fantastic cream soda-esque red ale, I think? Super smooth, just enough vanilla.
Marz Umami Stout: this http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2014/12/15/yes-marz-community-brewing-aged-a-mushroom-stout-in-soy-sauce-barrels-and-i-drank-it is good, I can't explain it better than the article.
Surly Damien: hoppy brown? Sort of, but I thought it was pretty standard for a Midwest brown, like Best Brown from Bells but had the Surly "edge"
― dan m, Thursday, 18 December 2014 05:07 (nine years ago) link
I refuse to drink Pig Minds. They just seem like awful people.
― Jeff, Thursday, 18 December 2014 12:07 (nine years ago) link
I'm sure other brewers are awful people too, but at least they don't wear it so clearly on their labels.
― Jeff, Thursday, 18 December 2014 12:08 (nine years ago) link
It was on draft so there wasn't a label, but that sounds like my reasoning for not drinking Local Option products due to the nazi imagery they use, intentionally or not.
― dan m, Thursday, 18 December 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link
vanilla bitch slap is a grotesque name for a beer
― marcos, Thursday, 18 December 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link
speaking of vanilla, been realizing more and more that i don't have much of a taste for these super sweet, dessert-like chocolate milkshake-tasting stouts that have been very common lately. when i want something very dark and roasty i've been going for porters much more often
― marcos, Thursday, 18 December 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link
btw i love the founders porter but they need to ditch the "dark rich and sexy" slogan, it's some stupid fuckin shit
― marcos, Thursday, 18 December 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link
too many beer bros brewing
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 18 December 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link
Browers
― Jeff, Thursday, 18 December 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link
I hate the labels and names of 90% of these beers. Even by the standards of shitty art so much of the shit is totally shitty. They seem like Pushead crossed with some dude doodling on some primitive paint program crossed with the stuff I see tagged on bridges and overpasses. And then the cherry on top is the stupid name they pick. Everything's, like, a viking with grills on his teeth puking rainbows up a woman's skirt. I call that beer "Rainbow Legged." Or "Up Yours." Or "Erik the Thigh-King."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 December 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link
where is Battle the beer label fascist when we need him
― some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Thursday, 18 December 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link
more 10 Barrel backlash:
http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2014/12/anheuser-busch_inbev_acquisiti.html#incart_river
― some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Thursday, 18 December 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link
Ugh GISing Pig Minds stuff tells the tale. Wow.
― dan m, Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link
so many breweries with such terrible aesthetics. i'd imagine there's no real incentive for them to hire a legit graphic designer when they can just get their bro friends to get high and draw some stupid shit and it'll sell anyways
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link
though in most cases it seems like they have the logo dialed in, and still fail miserably when it comes to packaging
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
There are some places that seem to have their act together - I will again rep for No-Li out of Spokane, whose packaging I really love (they rebranded a couple years ago, it was terrible before that). But right next to one of their beers in my fridge is a Lagunitas Little Sumpin which is all the worst in one shot - awful design, stupid name, sexist imagery. But a good beer.
Pig Minds stuff looks really awful though, especially shit like the PD. But then again the name of the brewery kind of tips you off I guess?
― joygoat, Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link