the poochies of 90s platforming

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PC/Amiga games were largely sold with cybersteroids and reflective chrome fonts iirc

http://www.stickhead.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/top50/gods1.png
https://amostagreeablepastime.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/xenon2shopkeer.png
http://regmedia.co.uk/2014/01/24/sb_1.jpg?x=648&y=429&crop=1

fgti, Thursday, 18 December 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link

second giana sisters is all-time.

Here's the magic pockets kid.

http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Commodore_Amiga/Box/big/Magic_Pockets_-_1991_-_Renegade_Software.jpg

thomasintrouble, Thursday, 18 December 2014 15:07 (nine years ago) link

tempted to print up a bunch of 'music by betty boo' stickers and surreptitiously plant them on the covers of copies of call of duty: advanced warfare in as many shops as i can

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 18 December 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link

one look at beefcakey Gods dude and the theme song started playing on a loop in my head

ahhh-ah-ah-aah, ahhhh-ah-ah-aah, ah-ahh (beep boop beep boop)

cowritten by John Foxx iirc

this... this was my era

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 18 December 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link

Haha was going to post Bad Cat

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Thursday, 18 December 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link

"Probably the best written platform game ever"

bold claim

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Thursday, 18 December 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link

trying to work out how brian's right leg is bending there is some mindbending mc escher shit

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 18 December 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link

people dissing Bitmap Bros itt are crossing a line i reckon

gassy sempiternal technology (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 December 2014 00:21 (nine years ago) link

no diss
fond memories of being extreme to the max

fgti, Friday, 19 December 2014 00:24 (nine years ago) link

nah seriously tho they was always more conceptually beautiful than most of the games turned out

having said that, Speedball 2 is an eternal classic

gassy sempiternal technology (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 December 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link

I really did not like the visuals of Magic Pockets, sorry.

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 19 December 2014 01:07 (nine years ago) link

where does sonic the hedgehog fall on the poochie spectrum?

Philip Nunez, Friday, 19 December 2014 01:12 (nine years ago) link

omg Gex and Bug

I had blocked those games from my memory

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Friday, 19 December 2014 01:16 (nine years ago) link

Conker, it seems to me, is the apotheosis of poochie-ism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVzEVcpho5Q

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Friday, 19 December 2014 07:13 (nine years ago) link

The first time I noticed this was the transformation of TMNT from comic to the "cowabunga dude" of the animated series, I thought Poochie was a rip on that

Sonic seemed pretty non-egregious in comparison, but looking back at vintage commercials? wow

Conker began iirc as a tame Rare creation that got changed in the back-end of development into the garbage child he ended up being

fgti, Friday, 19 December 2014 08:33 (nine years ago) link

Sonic certainly has the eyebrow raised in poochie-style disdain. Wasn't there a thread about exactly that?

Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Friday, 19 December 2014 08:56 (nine years ago) link

There's this old gem:

https://eddyshao.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/pixar_vs_dw.jpg

Simply The Bessed! (Old Lunch), Friday, 19 December 2014 12:31 (nine years ago) link

haha. pixar does plenty of that face too (Buzz, green thing from monster inc) is there a name for that face? Ace Ventura riffed on that face pretty hard.

Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 19 December 2014 13:17 (nine years ago) link

smarm brows

(曇り) (clouds), Friday, 19 December 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link

soccer kid looks like he's about to cry.

thomasintrouble, Friday, 19 December 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link

the first Battletoads was awesome even if the difficulty jumps straight off a cliff after the bike level

Nhex, Friday, 19 December 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link

i always got the poochie vibe from sonic, esp late 90s era http://i.imgur.com/4lk4npa.jpg

diamonddave85​ (diamonddave85), Friday, 19 December 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link

cross poochie and gods bloke and we get
http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Features/2009/09/Hated%20mascots/Mohawk%201--article_image.jpg

thomasintrouble, Friday, 19 December 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link

omg

Drop soap, not bombs (Ste), Friday, 19 December 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link

the mascots with attitude def seems like the forefathers of the 'dreamworks face' discussed in this other excellent poochie referencing thread:
goddamn smirky eyebrow-raised badass poochie cartoons nowadays

slam dunk, Saturday, 20 December 2014 00:41 (nine years ago) link

conker's bad fur day is a great game and purposely poochies up the conker character (originally designed to appeal to preschool-age kids) in a knowing, parodical way-he's p much a pathetic loser for the whole game.

slam dunk, Saturday, 20 December 2014 00:46 (nine years ago) link

afaik these games were created to cash in on sonic's success. although he doesn't talk in the original games, he definitely has 'tude.
from the sonic wiki:

his personality was based on Bill Clinton's "Get it done" attitude.

According to various official materials from Sega, Sonic is described as a character who is "like the wind":[33] a drifter who lives as he wants,[34] and makes life a series of events and adventures.[35] Sonic hates oppression and staunchly defends freedom.[36] Although he is mostly quick-witted and easygoing,[34] he has a short temper[34] and is often impatient with slower things.[33] Sonic is a habitual daredevil hedgehog who is honest, loyal to friends, keeps his promises,[35] and dislikes tears.

slam dunk, Saturday, 20 December 2014 00:52 (nine years ago) link

and is crazy for rings

lag∞n, Saturday, 20 December 2014 04:46 (nine years ago) link

xxxp thanks slm dunk, that was the thread I was thinking of!

Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Saturday, 20 December 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link

Doubling back to the Apogee PC clone stuff, none of these are quite as poochiefied as Jazz Jackrabbit but still:

http://image.dosgamesarchive.com/screenshots/cosmo1.gif

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DzvD70-SKos/UIfqXtW9E2I/AAAAAAAADrQ/JduekgngOK4/s1600/screen_39444_Monster_Bash_1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/DukeNukem1Titlecard.png

I played the fuck out of the shareware versions of all these games. Some were better than others, none were really as smooth as a good console platformer. I think most were better than the really shitty console platformers, and at least tried to go for something a little more elaborate than getting to the end of the level. In practice this tended to mean dull exploration of the "god dammit where's the yellow key" variety. But if you were hooked on this kind of gaming but didn't have that many NES games you could burn a pleasant Saturday grinding through these. As a rule they were all better than shitty PC versions of games that did exist on consoles, like Mega Man.

Mascot-wise, though, the characters were all pretty thin and certainly did not inspire any kind of identification or excitement for the brand - just a block of pixels you control, sometimes with extra frames to indicate that they bend their legs when they jump. Commander Keen's idea of it being a preteen in an oversized football helmet was at least unique. Duke, obviously, got a bit more well-defined in his post-platform career.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 20 December 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link

yeah i don't actually as it turns out have a lot to say for those besides out of nostalgia. some of them had neater gimmicks than others that added mechanical character to the ctrl-alt-arrows formula: cosmo's suction cups, the bargain-lost-vikings character-switching in REALMS OF CHAOS. some of them were choked with secret bonuses in a way that anticipated achievement-style gaming: destroy all the security cameras, get the letters K-E-E-N in order, that sort of thing. hooky but inane. anyway the style peaks early (crystal caves/secret agent) and never really improves. jazz jackrabbit was a cut above most of it honestly because it had animation. apogee did more competitive work in the galaga/defender vein-- major stryker, RAPTOR CALL OF THE SHADOWS, stargunner.

dc otm that keen was best in show mascotwise. duke was p much as defined as he'd get by duke 2 tho, before his shooter debut:
http://www.welovedosgames.net/images/games/nukem2_1b.png

^^^ this game is exhausting.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 20 December 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link

conker was iirc introduced as a playable character in n64 masterpiece DIDDY KONG RACING, but i don't rly remember him cuz i always played as the tiger. toward the end of the console's life he ruded up.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 20 December 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

I can still remember a few of Bubsy's lame, sassy lines from the like, one time I got to play it. Digitized speech was so precious back then. "More like a bridge too short!"

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 21 December 2014 04:55 (nine years ago) link


What could possibly go wrong?
Did I mention I don't like heights?
More like a bridge too short.
Hey, whatever blows your hair back!
Hey, I thought I saw Elvis back there!
Shouldn't that be 'fearless'? Uh-oh...
Well, it worked for Clint.
Go ahead, make my day!
My contract does not mention pain!
Hey, I didn't write this stuff!!!
Next time, I get a stunt-cat!
Is there a veterinarian in the audience?
That's it! I'm outta here! You can't make me.
What, and give up show business?
Somebody dial 911!!!
Whoah, are you still playing this thing?!
Nothing can stop me now!
A penguin saved is a penguin earned.
Do you believe in miracles!?
I win! I win!
I like it!
Surely you jest?
Pilot's license? What for?
Who wrote this stuff?
Another swine mess...
Remember: I am a trained purr-fessional.
Aw, nuts!
Is there a doctor in the house!?
Is the writers' strike over yet?
Go for Baroque!
That's it!
Keep it up, JUST KEEP IT UP!
Haha!
I'll be back!
I am not!
Oh, yeah!
You think so?
Bye-bye...
Alright!
Aaauugh...
The hamhocks strike back!
This is definitely contagious.
That's a neat trick.
Keep this under wrap.
Oh sure, let's all torch the Bubster.
Pilot's license? What for?
Keep it up! Just keep it up!
Who do I look like? Flipper?
Nothing can stop me now!

slam dunk, Sunday, 21 December 2014 05:01 (nine years ago) link

oh mannnnnnnnnnnn, the badditude. Oh sure, let's all torch the Bubster.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 21 December 2014 05:34 (nine years ago) link

Possibly also in this category but I quite liked it (though it may not stand up to scrutiny and in retrospect the whole ~middle Eastern exoticism~ may be, uh, questionable): Titus the Fox. You can pick things up, stand on them, throw them! OK that's not that amazing but in 1992 on the PC it was...

Original French version is even more questionable, tbh.

http://i.imgur.com/wuOiAVy.jpg

Moktar was some kind of comedy Arab character portrayed by the French singer Vincent Lagaf(that's him on the cover), and the object of the game was to return him to his homeland. Yeah.

For some reason I was always really attracted to Zool whenever I used to see the demo playing in computer shops, etc. It wasn't till years later I got to play it and realised it wasn't much of anything. It was suspiciously well reviewed at the time, but I feel like that was part of a general desperation to prove that the dying home computer market could still produce games good enough to compete with the consoles. Might also explain the positive coverage the Amiga/ST port of Streetfighter 2 got even though it was clearly an absolute fucking travesty.

Zool was also part of that weird 90s trend of games-as-adverts, in this case Chupa-Chups.

Pheeel, Sunday, 21 December 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link

!!! OK I have never seen that before (thankfully), but now I know why when I started Titus the Fox in DOSBOX after posting it here it said "yeahhhh you are still playing Moktar in 2014!"

I forgot about the Chupa-Chups tie-in. That brings me on to puzzle game and crisp advert Pushover (or Pus-Hover as the advert looked suspiciously like it was called):
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-x9ifJgELTyE/U5ILRBawAzI/AAAAAAAAAVI/KncGnFH_bRg/s1600/one_step_beyond%2520%282%29.png

(not quite sure if the dog is *clears throat* rad, bad and 'tudey enough for poochiedom but eh, close enough)

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 21 December 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link

never played zool but very clearly remember the magazine ads, which made a big deal about how ZOOL would TAKE OVER YOUR LIFE

unless I'm thinking of sth else

tl;dr, gukbar, morbis detrius (wins), Sunday, 21 December 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link

lol at Quik, like it's also trying to cash in on the fame of the rabbit mascot from Quik chocolate milk powder.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 21 December 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link

Jazz Jackrabbit was awesome

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 December 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link

lol @ cool-ass Kirby

Nhex, Monday, 22 December 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link

One thing to be said for the PC clones is, if your high school had computers, you could play these games at school, which was generally not the case for consoel games. I'm sure most of the Jazz I ever played was in study hall.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 22 December 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link

Though, once, we hooked up someone's Dreamcast in comp sci, routed through a VCR that I had in my locker for an unrelated purpose. That was a good week.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 22 December 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

those quotes

poxy fülvous (abanana), Saturday, 9 May 2015 03:13 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Equipped with nothing but a red jumpsuit, his stink blasts and Nash's extreme sports equipment

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 8 September 2016 13:11 (seven years ago) link

same

a very in-your-face, hard-edged machine bottom (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 8 September 2016 13:24 (seven years ago) link


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