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A tip is the equivalent of an upvote except you get real money.

lag∞n, Saturday, 20 December 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

should you tip your airbnb hosts?

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 9 April 2015 09:25 (nine years ago) link

Bartender... 98% lol good luck usa

The thing that is a drag about drinking in the UK versus the US is that the tipping is a GOOD thing for the customer. If you always start off the night at a bar you're going to be at for a while by tipping $5 or $10 on the first round, then, when the bar's crowded, the bartender will come to you faster. Plus you get buyback drinks. And you get treated better the next time you come in. Everyone wins.

The amount of time I've wasted standing at a pub over here waiting for a disinterested bartender to eventually work his or her way over, paying no attention whatsoever to the order people arrived at the bar...

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 9 April 2015 12:38 (nine years ago) link

That's just inept bartending though.

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 April 2015 12:53 (nine years ago) link

Well, it's certainly very American: Throw a little cash around, etc.
Not saying that's not unfair.
But when I tip well and get stronger drinks faster, I think that's great bartending.

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 9 April 2015 12:57 (nine years ago) link

That's the other thing, of course: Better tips and a heavier pour.
Reminds me of that old Doug Stanhope bit on Charlie Brooker's show about UK bartenders putting on a labcoat and grabbing a beaker to measure your shot, making sure not a vapour more of spirit leaks into the glass...

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 9 April 2015 12:58 (nine years ago) link

Tipping is a flat circle

, Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:01 (nine years ago) link

everyone wins except somebody who doesn't have $10 to give away obv

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:02 (nine years ago) link

Better idea if publicans only employed Polish or Czech barmaids tbh

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:05 (nine years ago) link

prefer the egalitarianism of shit service for all to the favouring of a monied elite

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:06 (nine years ago) link

I always tip properly (as instructed by ilx) at US bars and I've noticed no discernible improvement in bartender attitude or attention. I've had tiny numbers of buy backs (maybe 4, ever) and since I'm primarily a beer drinker I get no benefit in pour size.

Tim, Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:10 (nine years ago) link

so what would you all normally tip a tattoo artist? I've had two tats and gave a $60 on a $340 tattoo and a $40 on a $150, figured that was enough but I never know the protocol.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:15 (nine years ago) link

wat is buy back

guess u must have tipped ok or guy wd have inked swastikas on u second time round

Believe it or not, some of us have no tattoos.

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:29 (nine years ago) link

wat is buy back

― their fantastic and relevant debut single, ‘Times Are Hard’ (Bananaman Begins),

aiui you tip enough for five extra drinks and eventually you get one of them

not content (onimo), Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:29 (nine years ago) link

er, cool lifehack

Believe it or not, some of us have no tattoos.

― Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Thursday, April 9, 2015 2:29 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

believe it or not, some people on ILX do, and that's who the question was addressed to

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 9 April 2015 13:59 (nine years ago) link

Ha, yes, it was just phrased in such a way that seemed to imply that most of us have... which might actually be true!

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link

I always tip properly (as instructed by ilx) at US bars and I've noticed no discernible improvement in bartender attitude or attention.

same here. but i always assume it's because i look like i'm 12 and the bartender already thinks they're doing me a favor by not calling my mom

Karl Malone, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:09 (nine years ago) link

By the time I go to a bar it's too packed to meaningfully believe that an extra dollar or two will get you better service

, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:10 (nine years ago) link

tip on tattoos as you would for hair salon/barbershop.

new noise, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link

Tipping and Your Tattoo Artist?

new noise, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link

everyone wins except somebody who doesn't have $10 to give away obv
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, April 9, 2015 2:02 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So $5 if you're getting a couple drinks, $10 if you're buying a bigger round. Don't think it's a preposterous ask if you're preparing to spend a bit of time at the same bar. If $5 is a crazy amount, how can you drink in any bars in any big city? Believe me - for a bartender it's much more about the gesture, really. Despite what that chart says, a SHITLOAD of people don't tip at all, or leave a couple bucks and then take one back when you're doing something else like some kind of Costanza move. A couple extra bucks to a hard working bartender is simply a gesture of respect that will be rewarded

The "egalitarianism of shit service" is a noble idea that leads to a culture of nonstop shit service everywhere.

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 9 April 2015 14:52 (nine years ago) link

a noble culture tho

A couple extra bucks to a hard working bartender is simply a gesture of respect that will be rewarded

Or won't, depending. I tip, as far as I can tell I tip correctly, though obviously it's an opaque and somewhat exclusionary system, I've even given up complaining about it being unfair and unhelpful, I am even happy about it if it means bar staff get paid a decent amount BUT it's fair to say that your description of tipping in bars as something which works smoothly to the benefit of the customer does not match my experience of drinking in America.

Tim, Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link

Seems to me that the system is geared squarely in the interests of the bar owners, fwiw - pay less in wages, accept a bit more wastage, build in a reason for people to stay for longer rather than leg it after a couple.

I am used to experiencing both good and bad service in the US and the UK, I've genuinely not felt a substantial difference between the two. Maybe I'm tipping wrong, perhaps I should make a bigger show of it or something.

Tim, Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:20 (nine years ago) link

i tip my doctor and noticed a significant improvement in service

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 9 April 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link

(x-post) Fair enough; we've just had different experiences, and really the entire bar/pub cultures are very different on either side of the Atlantic. I still think it benefits everyone, though - bar owners for the reasons you say, bartenders because they get more tips with customers who are more likely to return, customers because a few extra bucks will pay off then or down the road.

I've just found myself at so many central London pubs standing there for 30 minutes getting jostled, watching the bartender make no effort to try to serve waiting people in any kind of order, and I start to lose my mind. But again - different experiences: I've been lucky to have some great locals in D.C./NYC/even L.A.

Plus it feels good to tip people when you can and shouldn't always be seen as some elaborate shakedown!

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 9 April 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link

it feels good to tip people

this is why its abhorrent, same w ppl who take pride in paying for everything & conspicuous charity

ogmor, Thursday, 9 April 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link

If your smallest bills were worth approx 8 dollars do you think ppl would still tip as much

kinder, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link

this is why its abhorrent, same w ppl who take pride in paying for everything & conspicuous charity

I'm guessing you've never worked a job where you hope people tip you

Walter Galt, Friday, 10 April 2015 00:09 (nine years ago) link

site old questioms

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Friday, 10 April 2015 00:25 (nine years ago) link

Nice

, Friday, 10 April 2015 00:38 (nine years ago) link

seems patronising to assume an ethical position is beyond someone w a certain work history but I guess thats par for the course w you tippers

ogmor, Friday, 10 April 2015 00:44 (nine years ago) link

it's abhorrent because it feels good

brimstead, Friday, 10 April 2015 00:55 (nine years ago) link

right that's what makes it so insidious, at least w bribery no one is blinding themselves w romantic notions about individual endeavour or altruism

ogmor, Friday, 10 April 2015 02:46 (nine years ago) link

vee must totally destroy all notions of romantic individual endeavour or altruism!

lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 05:55 (nine years ago) link

buybacks i feel like most often occur when youve been sitting at the bar for hours getting shithoused on a not that busy night, or at a place where ur a regular

lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 05:57 (nine years ago) link

i guess some places are more formulaic about it

lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 05:59 (nine years ago) link

or if u know the bartender u just tip them a lot and they charge u almost nothing which seems m/l like a crime

lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 06:00 (nine years ago) link

i have never tried tipping the bartender $10 that seems more just like paying for yr drinks in advance

lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 06:01 (nine years ago) link

yeah I prefer to just tip a dollar or two and enjoy normal guy status

Getting a haircut in America is a terrifying experience, sitting there so panicked about having to pay some spurious undefined bonus on top of the actual price

And then you're paying someone else at the front and don't know if you should say "...and this is for a tip?" after they give you your change, or go back across the floor to tuck a handful of money into the barber's apron

And if you shouldn't tip if the haircut isn't as good as the last one you got, somewhere else? You're never going to be there again anyway so

Basically way too stressful to even focus on communicating how you want your hair done

oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Friday, 10 April 2015 06:59 (nine years ago) link

wait, u pay for haircuts?

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Friday, 10 April 2015 08:14 (nine years ago) link

should you tip your airbnb hosts?

― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 9 April 2015 09:25 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was a srs q btw

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 10 April 2015 09:06 (nine years ago) link

Tipping barbers? Crazy USA.

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Friday, 10 April 2015 09:09 (nine years ago) link

Have always tipped my barber in England/Scotland!

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 10 April 2015 09:11 (nine years ago) link


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