the charts are stagnating again.

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(one unrelated point i'm completely mystified on - i don't know ANYONE who downloads legally. they either download illegally, or they don't download. who the fuck are these people?)

I download through Bleep, Beatport, Dancetracks, Kompakt and others on a weekly basis. It makes a lot more sense to buy a 320K rip of a tune for $1.50-$2.50 than to pay $12 for an import single. Plus, you can hear a big difference between a crappy 192K P2P rip and a 320K rip from a legitimate source when you play tunes on a club system.

jeffery (jeffery), Monday, 15 May 2006 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I have written a Crazy Frog song:

Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
World Cup World Cup
Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
World Cup World Cup

The great thing is, it doesn't need any work.

I would like to legally download huge great 20 minute krautrock tracks. Is this possible?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:01 (eighteen years ago) link

The reason for "Crazy" spending seven weeks at number one is simple - there's nothing even within spitting distance of it in the chart at the moment, quantitatively or qualitatively, and it's also one of the half-dozen or so greatest number one singles there have ever been.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't worry folks, soon Jimmy Pursey and friends will land "Hurry Up England" at the number 1 spot for 3 weeks until we are knocked out in the quarter-finals and millions of pounds worth of damage is inflicted on every city centre pub in the country. Hoorah!

Action Tim Vision (noodle vague), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:09 (eighteen years ago) link

7 weeks is not dramatic. It is kind of the way it is supposed to be. One new chart topper each week is a sign of bad quality, which was also the case when the likes of Bryan Adams, Wet Wet Wet, Whitney Houston, Boyz II Men and Mariah Carey stayed on top of the UK or US charts forever back in the early to mid 90s.

so long-running No 1s are a sign of good quality (eg Wet Wet Wet in the UK), but a No 1 each week is a sign of bad quality (eg Wet Wet Wet in the US)???

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:17 (eighteen years ago) link

there's nothing even within spitting distance of it in the chart at the moment, quantitatively or qualitatively,

is the milian single out properly yet? the milian single has made me reassess her as the greatest artist this century has yet produced.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh I heard that yesterday Lex, it's awesome.

Action Tim Vision (noodle vague), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Marcello OTM - i was in the big hmv on oxford st the other day and crazy came on and EVERYONE started nodding their heads and bopping it was like a scene from some shitty britcom

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:34 (eighteen years ago) link

.. and it will be.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:36 (eighteen years ago) link

there's something about the way milian rolls her voice around lines like "i'mma keep it gangsta" and "do what you - wanna do, don't let nobody tell you what you're - supposed to do", which in anyone else's mouth would be nothingy, which makes them UTTERLY TRANSCENDENT

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link

i actually think 'Crazy' would be a very odd record to actually dance to. i've not heard it in a club or at a party yet (tho i'm sure it's been played at loads).

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it's pretty average.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:16 (eighteen years ago) link

i can imagine 'crazy' with a different arrangement (one which eg reminded me less of moby) being amazing, and danceable, very close-of-night.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:19 (eighteen years ago) link

The reason for "Crazy" spending seven weeks at number one is simple - there's nothing even within spitting distance of it in the chart at the moment, quantitatively or qualitatively, and it's also one of the half-dozen or so greatest number one singles there have ever been

I predict Marcello is mildly embarrassed by this in five years time. It's a pretty good song - the production is really plodding, I think, the kind of thing everyone likes a bit (whereas everyone LOVES other Song Xs, viz "Hung Up")

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:23 (eighteen years ago) link

there are lots of songs like 'hung up' ('hey ya', 'sos'), they're kind of awesome for six weeks and then you get heartily sick of them -- that's pop, but ilx is where we talk about pop old music unendingly, there's a problem

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:27 (eighteen years ago) link

No, I just know. Same as I knew that "Those Were The Days" was one of the half-dozen greatest number one singles when I was five.

(xpost, obv)

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:27 (eighteen years ago) link

it's just a good middlepoint, that's why it's number 1 for so long. catchy enough for kids and sounds Nick Hornby soul enough for adults.

I can't even see how it's bigger than something like "Hey Ya".

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Or rather, how it's supposed to be better, I didn't particularly like "Hey Ya" myself but it was about a thousand times catchier and more vital.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Who said it was supposed to be better?
"Hey Ya" didn't get to number one.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Marcello, I think your senses were a bit sharper at five. "Crazy" isn't even in the same ballpark as "Those Were The Days".

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:30 (eighteen years ago) link

there are lots of songs like 'hung up' ('hey ya', 'sos'), they're kind of awesome for six weeks and then you get heartily sick of them -- that's pop, but ilx is where we talk about pop old music unendingly, there's a problem

and then two years later you remember you awesome they were, plus with added nostalgia value.

i do actually think 'crazy' is a genuine Song X! i think the production is crap BUT compared with the bluntian acoustica and britrock revival drivel which is getting all the attention at the moment, it's veritably neptunes-esque. and for the casual consumer (who are the ones who really drive Song Xs) that's what probably appeals.

also i don't think we can overlook cee-lo's voice, that really is amazing.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:32 (eighteen years ago) link

i must hear this song.

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:33 (eighteen years ago) link

It'll be interesting to see what Tom has to say about it on Popular, circa 2073...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:40 (eighteen years ago) link

surely Cee-Lo's voice is the most Moby thing about 'Crazy'.

when people say this song is plodding, what do they mean? the tempo? it's 'Da Funk' speed so does 'Da Funk' plod too? 'Da Funk' sounds 'madder' i suppose, 'ironically'. but 'Crazy' is a SONG. it's not meant to be 'Hey Ya', and the backlash on that was pretty severe. 'Crazy's success is a huge surprise i think, despite what Ronan says being correct re catchiness/Hornby-approval).

DM does some nice stuff with the moody strings and choiri think, esp. changing ther notes around on Cee-Lo's second verse.


Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:45 (eighteen years ago) link

The backlash on "Hey Ya" wasn't on the dancefloors though, was it? Really, a backlash amongst music critics has very little to do with something becoming Song X (or maybe Song X has to have critical approval for it to hit all targets?).

Where does "Where Is The Love?" feature in all this?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:02 (eighteen years ago) link

least said, soonest mended.

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:05 (eighteen years ago) link

"Where Is The Love?" - I'd be inclined to give that nought out of ten at the moment.

There's studium mass appeal and there's punctum mass appeal.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:07 (eighteen years ago) link

it is a blight on the otherwise superb BEP discography.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:08 (eighteen years ago) link

i think the 'hey ya' backlash extended beyond critics. but anyway yes, being 'song x' isn't necessarily a good thing. the song x succeeding 'freak like me' was 'a little less covnersation'. 'you're beautiful' was song x last summer, in a bad way.

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:09 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe this is why Liberty X have called their new single 'X'.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Song X is a good thing if you mean the Ornette Coleman/Pat Metheny album!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:10 (eighteen years ago) link

(X) Rearrange the whole game with my rugged sound
(X) Won't even say your own name when I come around
(X) Stay on top but remain from the underground
(X) to the Z and we all in the family

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Does "Song X" literally just mean a song that is escapable? Or does it need more? Why wasn't "Crazy In Love" one? Or "Ignition Remix"? How close was "I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor"?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:13 (eighteen years ago) link

"Crazy in Love" was totally Song X, wasn't it?

Action Tim Vision (noodle vague), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Only for a very brief momemt. I'm not convinced it's stood the test of time.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:24 (eighteen years ago) link

'crazy in love' yes (and it's definitely stood the test of time - my friend robin played it at bank holiday lovelife and the room kind of exploded with joy). 'ignition' yes (though it's probably the worst r kelly single ever!). 'i bet you look wvs' haha certainly not.

Song Xs usually happen in the summer.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Amerie's "1 Thing" did the same trick better, perhaps. I don't know if the slight nausea and distaste you sometimes get for a song after gorging on it for a few weeks is the song's fault, really.

Action Tim Vision (noodle vague), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Why wasn't "Crazy In Love" one? Or "Ignition Remix"?

they were both song x!

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:35 (eighteen years ago) link

i think that nausea and distaste are part and parcel of Song Xs, which by definition will be overplayed and ubiquitous

('1 thing' is a Song X too)

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link

'sos' is the current song x.

the confusing situation Enrique currently endures (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link

can we not just say BIG TUNE instead of Song X?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:38 (eighteen years ago) link

or how about BIGGEDY-BOMB TRACK?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe a series of bomb noises at the start of its title?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:45 (eighteen years ago) link

"1 Thing" only got to #4 though. Is popularity not a part of Song Xiness?

And, alright, go on then: what was the last non cough cough "urban" Song X?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:45 (eighteen years ago) link

'crazy'

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:46 (eighteen years ago) link

'Is this the way to Amarillo?'

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Dom, what is this "only got to #4"? top five surely means popular?

Also don't some songs have a longer radio life/period of popularity that isn't reflected by chart position?

permanent revolution (cis), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, but "1 Thing" hasn't had that. "Crazy in Love" has.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Here are the 20 best number ones. I hope you find this list useful. Thx, bye.

1. Uptown Top-Ranking
2. Wuthering Heights
3. Sugar Baby Love
4. West-End Girls
5. You To Me Are Everything
6. Are Friends Electric?
7. Geno
8. You Really Got Me
9. Blockbuster
10.Everlasting Love
11. Hot Love
12. Jumping Jack Flash
13. Israelites
14. Rock Your Baby
15. Video Killed The Radio Star
16. Like A Prayer
17. Double Barrel
18. Dancing Queen
19. The Sun Aint Gonna Shine Anymore
20. Ashes To Ashes

Dr.C, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"1 Thing" did have a proper chart run, didn't drop down to #18 in the second week, so it does qualify as a "proper hit single."

Dr C, we need to chat.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link


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