Going To Law School

when i see what paris and london are up to in terms of bicycle initiatives i am truly inspired and hope i can be a part of NYCs bicyclelization one day as an attorney. or i'll just work for the mayor.

My life feels so shallow now. :)

Cutty might partner well with my law school friend Sean, who I think is similarly-intentioned, tho eclectic in his causes.

I am going to take at least baby steps toward that A to B (or at least A sharp) thing, but I'm along in years to be doing so.

B.L.A.M. good luck!

Did you take the test in San Berdoo?

If you're not going to a public law school (and you're not, for instance, married) I would recommend moving home and going to school. You'll save lots of money--and you wouldn't really have a life anyway, in law school. I suppose your home would have to be somewhere with a decent law school, though. Or, if you work in public service, I think the loan can be forgiven after 15 years in public service, by which time there might not be that much of a loan left, or something ridiculous like that.

And Colin Meeder, who left the law to work elsewhere, is an old-school ILX lawyer.

it's 10 years in public service, and yes, after 10 years there is hardly any federal loan left to pay off. the private loans are the ones that fuck you.

ILX lawyer roll call:

cutty
gabbneb
felicity
Hunt3r
Daniel, Esq.
Eisbaer
Jenny (who previously posted on this thread as Party Time Country Female)
B.L.A.M.
Colin Meeder (thanks, I was trying to remember his name)

What has become of Aaron "Ghostly" W?

He is, I believe, clerking for a judge in Brooklyn. So add him to the (growing) list:)

And Mr. Que is a law librarian, so he straddles both the library and law worlds.

hrugh, it doesn't seem like I'll be getting into any of the schools I wanted to get into; I haven't heard a word from them. Of course, my LSAT was only 164.

Is public interest/government kinda work reasonable and worthwhile considering tuition debt? I'm not really interested at all in big firm, IP, tax law, etc., kinda stuff.

You didn't get rejections yet either so I wouldn't give up. 164 is good enough for most of those schools if you have decent grades. You did apply a bit late, right? At least you might still be in the running.

cutty
gabbneb
felicity
Hunt3r
Daniel, Esq.
Eisbaer
Jenny (who previously posted on this thread as Party Time Country Female)
B.L.A.M.
Colin Meeder

Possible firm: Cutty Gabbnebb LLC. Nice ring to it. Snappy.

Kill that second "b."

(I meant that last "b"; Man, I'm tired).

Eisbaer & BLAM, PC

I sent my stuff to Fordham and Cardozo the second week of January. My GPA is awful, though ... 3.26. I did get WL at George Washington, so maybe all is not lost since all the other schools are lower ranked.

I sent almost all my apps in mid-late november.

the ceo of the co i work for is a mergers&aquisitions lawyer. this is pos the worst kind, right? so guys don't be that kind pls
you will prob be able to buy a town tho
well i guess there are prob worse kinds
i very nearly almost went to law school once - i am trying to remember who i was then when i did all that but it is v foggy

i went to poland instead

Yeah, I would've sent mine earlier but I took the December LSAT. Law school isn't necessary, I suppose ... American University-WCL seems way too expensive to justify attending (projected debt: $180,000... for a rank 48 school).

Oh yeah, rejected from Fordham (but I was waitlisted at schools ranked 10 places higher, so whatever on them). If I do go to law school, I'll probably go to American. :[]

Hmm. I've thought of law school, because I graduated college with a literature degree, and am bored with life as it currently is. Graduate school? Perhaps. There are lawyers in my family which makes it seem hereditary, but they have morally ambiguous position. My uncle is a copyright lawyer on the side copyright holders, and my grandpa was a labor lawyer on the side of management. Should I become a lawyer to undo these karmic wrongs? Namaste.

if nepotism is a choice go for yours

the ceo of the co i work for is a mergers&aquisitions lawyer. this is pos the worst kind, right? so guys don't be that kind pls
you will prob be able to buy a town tho
well i guess there are prob worse kinds
i very nearly almost went to law school once - i am trying to remember who i was then when i did all that but it is v foggy

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i went to poland instead

I read this as pretty good avant-garde poetry. That sounds like sarcasm, I guess, but it isn't.

Maybe OP wasn't such a douche. Much good has come from his thread.

Yeah, what the hell, freewheel go for it.

--A grateful J.Douche.

Why is being a lawyer for copyright holders "morally ambiguous"?

Unless you think the copyrights themselves were morally ambiguous.

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LOL law school is for U :)

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lol. xpost- My cousin said it was morally ambiguous, of his father, my uncle. I guess some of what he does/did was sort of representing big companies against tiny film projects that didn't clear rights. I don't know, copyright is sort of weird area of nebulousness in some ways.

I had an interview once as a law clerk for a firm that represented big business against people with asbestos cases. Unambiguously skeezy. Om.

I too will be a fully fledged lawyer as of 4 August 2008 (my admission date, all things going as planned), having recently joined a litigation boutique after 18 months working as a judge's associate in my local supreme court. Currently wading through the exams associated with my articles of clerkship. Nightmarish but at least there's a light at the end of the tunnel.

wow this thread is a nice little potted history of my time at law school! didn't realise I'd posted to it before

I had an interview once as a law clerk for a firm that represented big business against people with asbestos cases. Unambiguously skeezy. Om.

-- freewheel, Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:33 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Well, yeah, probably. Although there are also skeezy plaintiffs' lawyers going around fabricating asbestosis cases to add to their class actions. It's ambiguous all around sometimes.

Eisbar & BLAM, PC

Regardless of who gets the first name, or otherwise proceeds mine in the title, I'm the anchor name on the letterhead.

BLAM!

yo, law school dudes in the know, are the career prospects out of Amurican Univeristy - W*C*L halfway decent? The debt's nuts, but it'd be manageable with a decent paying job and a career that grows with time.

Hello dere. My advice is that if you're going to law school, you might as well go full time and devout yourself to it, at least for your first year when the grades are really fucking important (it's lame, but they really are important). Just put it all on student loans and plan to pay them back slowly for the next 30 years. But anyway.... I'm sure that you will find a great job if you go to AU. Just try really hard to get good grades and you will be fine.

Oh, so my update is.... I'm clerking for a magistrate judge in Brooklyn, still looking for a job for August and finding the job market REALLY tough. Interview last week at an awesome firm, so fingers are crossed. Otherwise, I have a giant pile of rejection letters and not a ton of prospects but I will surely end up somewhere fine. Probably will work for a couple years and then try for another clerkship with a district court judge.

My favorite case is New York State Association for Retarded Children, Inc. v. Carey, which is a 2d Circuit case that says that contemporaneous time records must be kept for attorneys' fees. I think I have cited about a bazillion times and I chuckle ever time. And, this is what has become of my life!

Which school did you go to - BLS?

k which one of u wants to do my entertainment law midterm for me???
it would be good practice! lol

what kinda law you wanna practice, a?

Yeah went to BLS. I really liked it. But definitely found that at a tier two school that jobs for students lower than top 20% were kind of rough. The thing to keep in mind is that everyone comes to law school smart and capable of getting good grades. It's not like college where you just have to show up. To get the most out of it, you really do have to commit yourself. It's not THAT big a deal though. Just be focused, don't get mired in the pressure, etc. etc.

Hi tehresa. Sure I will help you with your midterm! At the moment I'm just hoping to get my foot in the door at a big litigation firm -- kind of typical corporate stuff. I'm actually hoping I might one day end up as an AUSA. We shall see!!

I think you will make a great AUSA.

that would be mad exciting!

thanks for the offer, but those pesky ethics, ya know ;-) i am probably 80% finished with it at this point :) :) but who knows if it's any good!?

aaron, if you have ever entertained the idea of working for NYC, let me know

oh yeah, I got into Cardozo today with scholarship. We could be classmates Hurting 8)

Congrat Burt! Yeah Cardozo is a great option.

Thank you felicity! How are you doing?

Cutty, I think I emailed you (twice) but in case I screwed it up let me know and I'll try again. Nu-ilx is confusing!

And.... Good luck tehresa. Don't want to run afoul of ethics. I'm sure you did great. My Entertainment Law prof was like 120 years old and always droned on and on about how he worked for CBS in the 1950s. It was awesome.

yo, law school dudes in the know, are the career prospects out of Amurican Univeristy - W*C*L halfway decent? The debt's nuts, but it'd be manageable with a decent paying job and a career that grows with time.

The few AmU Law alumni I know are good lawyers and do very well.

aaron, i know we've met in the past--but i've never received an email from you

you can reach me at m4ttcutt✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧

I'm good, Aaron, Esq. I think of you whenever I read one of my Motorbooty magazines.

I really do think you'd make a good AUSA. You have the "look." I will vouch for you in the FBI background check if you need a reference.

Oh and congrats, burt stanton. Cardozo scholarship is a huge coup.

In "Reasons of the Heart", Edward Dahlberg said, "When one realizes that his life is worthless he either commits suicide or travels."

I'd like to add "he commits suicide, travels, or goes to law school."

I love indie dudes as much as anyone but just remember life can look pretty good without a ton of debt, too.

People who go to law school only because they think their lives are worthless turn into miserable, bitter, alcholic, Patrick, Batemans. Defer if you feel that way about it.

I still think American is a very good school and it travels well. Cardozo if great in NYC.