ff v gg fight!
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 08:56 (nine years ago) link
I am sure they will spin this into a win somehow
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 15:34 (nine years ago) link
I dig Intel's announcement, but knowing their history, I wonder how much somebody there will try to use this to boost their efforts lobbying for increased H1-B visas so they can hire foreign workers at far cheaper wages.
― Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 18:33 (nine years ago) link
lol yeah
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
I keep hearing there isn't so much gender divide in Indian CS classes, so...
(also whenever people are all "women not doing comp sci is a cultural thing only affecting the US" I think "huh maybe I imagined it because of reading too many US websites" and then I remember that there were three women in my year (UK, graduating at the bottom of the dotcom crash), and I don't think I even met one of the other two)
― club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link
yeah whenever people claim that, look around and count heads and then draw your own conclusions
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
Prior to 2014, the gender divide of people I've directly worked with who were from India was very close to 50/50 (7 men, 6 women). In 2014, we started working with a team in Bangalore that is made up of 7 men, plus of our new hires the split was something like 1 woman, 6 men (there was a second woman who is a recent hire who is Chinese).
It's very odd; I feel like the genderwise we hired a ton of women in 2000-2009 and in the past five years across nationalities it's been primarily men.
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
xp Well I mean UK/US are obv p culturally similar so I'm def not saying it's not an uh only-Western-anglophone problem or w/e, and I'm totally happy to believe my Indian coworkers (among other sources) that it's not so bad there
but it's definitely wider than just the US, at any rate
― club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link
Someone once told me that the US had gone from over 30% of computer science graduates being women to under 15% over the course of thirty years and India had gone from under 15% to over 30% in fifteen years but idk how accurate that is.
I seem to recall that Iran is one of the countries with the closest gender parity in CS grads Not sure why.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d12/tables/dt12_349.asp
here's the US for you, although CS degrees obviously do not directly correspond to people working in tech
― valleys of your mind (mh), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/z5Jl6pi.jpg
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 9 January 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
Eurgh/lol
― The Understated Twee Hotel On A Mountain (silby), Friday, 9 January 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link
ask a booty bay attacker
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 9 January 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link
i've seen that sentiment so many times in this whole mess, and it's ridiculous. give me a break. gaming is easy. you sit on your ass and push buttons. the ambiguity and risk of life is reduced to nothing. states of failure and success are clearly delineated and the paths to each are obvious and easily discoverable. it's barely a hobby. games are fun, intense, hour-draining fun, and are very well designed to be so. that's the best you can say about them. but they are finite experiences. you can't do anything you're not allowed to do by the game's creators. the worst you can say is the hours you've spent should have been spent otherwise, doing something creative or useful or self-bettering. the best approximation of struggle they offer is, as that dim jpg implies, is the frustration of repetition. or getting your ass handed to you in mp by some kid who puts more ass-time in than you. don't even begin to talk about "bravery" in gaming, which would require some risk and sacrifice in-the-world. you are sitting on your ass pushing buttons.
― goole, Friday, 9 January 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link
frankly #gamergate has had some real effect: it's made me like gaming less
― goole, Friday, 9 January 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link
^
― shmup....smug....shmub....shmug.... (forksclovetofu), Friday, 9 January 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link
same
― polyphonic, Saturday, 10 January 2015 03:07 (nine years ago) link
Nah, fuck that, that's the GG line, that Depression Quest and Gone Home aren't really games because they're not fun shooty-corridors. The games that GG love may have misshapen them in this way, but that's not nearly all of gaming.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 10 January 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
Luckily they can ignore Intel as it's such a small player in the gaming industry.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 10 January 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
theres something kind of heartbreaking about the 'we are indomitable, we play video games' line of thinking and that thing is that its terribly, hopelessly untrue
― wizaerd (Lamp), Saturday, 10 January 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
that's not nearly all of gaming.
I play way more of that stuff than I do stuff like Depression Quest though.
― polyphonic, Saturday, 10 January 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link
http://zpxlng.tumblr.com/post/100300331335/gamergate-a-series-of-comics-with-these-guys
― shmup....smug....shmub....shmug.... (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 10 January 2015 23:51 (nine years ago) link
That sentiment expressed in that graphic upthread you find elsewhere, like with conservative American evangelical groups who are either victimized by modernity or who are losing at life or both. It's not just the bucking-ourselves-up talk, the self-consultation, but it's that coming from segments of society who are horrible or sad or horribly sad due to the shit they do and are shocked by the response their dumb shit gets.
It's the clueless patheticness of it; that they're taking non-accomplishments and treating them like they actually make a critical difference in someone else's life. So you fed 100 at-risk families for a year? Well guess what I got every Ultima weapon in FFX and it only took me three months to do!
It's like they're not just losers, but there's a victim aspect to it, too. Shitty upbringing or shitty life situations led them to this sorry fate.
― Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Sunday, 11 January 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
anyway this horse bolted in 1982 with release of Ms.Pacman imo
― wat if lermontov hero of are time modern day (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 12 January 2015 11:17 (nine years ago) link
original gg
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Monday, 12 January 2015 11:32 (nine years ago) link
actually it's about bows on the foreheads of hungry tennis balls
― Rallsballs@onelist.com (stevie), Monday, 12 January 2015 11:33 (nine years ago) link
this is the heart of this whole thing, isn't it? gaming and gaming-culture as alternative route to self-esteem in capitalist/consumer culture, except it's especially devious because it's not an alternative to the dominant culture so much as within, a funhouse mirror virtual reality version or exaggeration of the very culture that degrades them as nerds or whatever. so they get to be misunderstood and outcast while at the same time espousing the most cartoonish bigotry and materialism. it's as if gaming culture takes the outcasts and efficiently funnels them back into the worst of the mainstream.
― ryan, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 00:31 (nine years ago) link
No matter what has been done to you, you’re really the one on trial when you’re fighting for your right to not live under constant threats and harassment. You’ve gained a superpower without even realizing it - you’ve become un-abusable. It’s impossible to these people that anything real could ever happen to you, because they’re coming from a starting point of flat-out ignoring or denying anything that could challenge that view, so every bit of privacy of yours that they inject themselves into is only there to continue pushing that notion. You could save a box of kittens from a burning building and the scandal the next day would be that you must hate dogs. Even if you keep your head down, even if you try to be “the perfect victim” and never instigate things, never fight back outside of legal channels, never let your humanity peek through and react with justifiable anger or hurt, it doesn’t matter. Everything you say can and will be used against you, period. End of story.
zoe quinn's written about the nightmarish shit she's been facing for the last five months on her blog: http://ohdeargodbees.tumblr.com/post/107838639074/august-never-ends
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 11:05 (nine years ago) link
ha ha ha
https://twitter.com/infinitechan/status/554793061788557312
― goole, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link
internet bs indeed
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 15:59 (nine years ago) link
omg that is wonderful
― Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link
oh good god
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d92e0b73f75249d849e01ea82d764543/tumblr_nhl0gm1iTf1tmbi15o1_500h.jpg
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:09 (nine years ago) link
... why are there two different pandas
― Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:10 (nine years ago) link
DIVERSITY
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 16:12 (nine years ago) link
I can only assume that each of these represents the twitter avatar of a gamergater and there are two pandas
really, I am surprised there are not more
― valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link
i honestly was like, i don't recognize any of these characters, which games are these? and then i realized...
― goole, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link
Inadvertent facepalm far left.
― ledge, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link
haaaaa
― Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
gamergate literally doesn't care if you're black, white, purple
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 17:38 (nine years ago) link
want to crop that to just that avatar on the far left and use it in some "faceless horde of GamerGate" snark
― Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
god, that zoe quinn post was depressing, though.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, really. Almost as depressing as the thought that this is still going on.
Kind of ironic that they are against 'Social Justice Warriors' and yet here is a big fanfic lineup of them all dressed up like.... warriors..... fighting for.... justice (ethics).... through social media....?
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link
... why are there two different pandas― Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:10 AM
DIVERSITY― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:12 AM
lmao
― wwhy shrek is piss (am0n), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
so good
― celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link
http://gamergatesings.bandcamp.com/album/gamergate-sings
― goole, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 01:43 (nine years ago) link
holy god
i am not listening to that but it has to be a poll
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 02:41 (nine years ago) link
Why so much Johnny Cash
― Nhex, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 02:56 (nine years ago) link
Includes bonus tracks that were too shit for me to bother uploading here.(replace "(dot)" with "." for you retards)
― shmup....smug....shmub....shmug.... (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 03:26 (nine years ago) link
life is probably too short for me to listen to this but here we go
haha nerds cling to johnny cash so blatantly
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link