Fine Mordy. Would you care to explain to us all just what an "enlightmenment praxis" is?
― how's life, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link
it's the same as a texas belt buckle
― example (crüt), Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link
indulging nakh's pedantic elitist nonsense is nagl
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link
yeah, he was responding to an article about how the enlightenment has been and should be performed (particularly critically in western society) and was mocking the poster of that article for backpatting himself for posting a link as tho that put him in company w/ some kind of enlightenment ideal.
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
nakh has obscure posts but this was not one
^
it's not complicated?
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
enlightenment praxis - the practice of enlightenment
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
at least if u were reading the thread at the time xp
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
the practice of enlightmenment.
― how's life, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
i'm glad there's a level at which we can all participate
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
I don't think it was a complicated point either, but it was a dickpoint lol @ nakh calling someone else sanctimonious
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
i don't think nakh is sanctimonious. maybe pretentious at times, but sanctimonious? he's pretty cynical.
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
― how's life, Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:42 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you're right that this is a clumsier way to say "enlightenment praxis"
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
but sanctimonious? he's pretty cynical.
what does sanctimony have to do w cynicism
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
nakh's m.o. is to point out the shortcomings/failings of other's posts/thoughts w elegant prose, like he's some kind of officious schoolmaster. fuck that guy.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
it's hard to be self-righteous when u aren't really righteous about anything i think?
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
i guess sanctimonious about quality posting?
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Thursday, January 22, 2015 2:45 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nakh might present himself as intellectually superior to other posters but never morally superior
― Treeship, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link
^ right this is what i meant
is it just the elegant prose that makes his m.o. different to everyone else here then
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link
eh ok
xp
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link
i think his lack of moral superiority is something of a rarity here
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
it's true that at the moment I can't recall him staking out a position on anything beyond "you are stupid and I am smarter than you" (which tbf I think can be interpreted as implying a moral system that prizes intellectual superiority above all - a questionable value imo - but idk if I care enough to get into this)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
geez, the only point I was hoping to make was not that nahk's post was nonsensical, which it was not, but that stylistically speaking it was a train wreck.
― Aimless, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link
I can't recall him staking out a position on anything beyond "you are stupid and I am smarter than you"
Does he do this?
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link
I'm obv. so stupid I haven't noticed.
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
lucky you
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link
I'd say then it's you not engaging with the arguments being made
I think if there's one overarching fallacy of the butthurt round here (not just wrt nakh) it's this idea that criticism of others' shortcomings necessarily implies a superiority complex on the part of the critic, I don't think I'm especially smart but I think I'm smarter than people I think are stupid, this is true of everyone
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
Great posters in this thread
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
It's prob been a while since the posters of this forum have been ranked and assessed
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link
An old man just walked by me w/ a sideways hat that said Vulcan on it
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
^ Moral or intellectual superiority?
I'm not sure nakh's ever "hurt my butt" tbh.
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
I definitely vote for take this one outside, back to the posts with striking imagery
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
He just walked by again, on the back of the hat it says since 1956
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
Once I saw a teenager walking around Jersey City with super baggy jeans and a super-oversized t-shirt that said "Reganomics" on it.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link
actual striking imagery^
― rob, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
marcos is the new ilx darling - kinda dumb and always ready to say the right thing
― Mordy, Thursday, January 22, 2015 2:21 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is coming from deep within the hive but it reflects poorly when you reveal how smart you believe yourself to be relative to other people
― flopson, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link
Smart Don't Make You Cool
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
lol remember this thread? How smart are you, relative to everyone else in ILX?
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link
this is so boring
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link
i think you're smart and cool, but so are most ilxors. i think your image of yourself as boldly defying the "hivemind" is deluded, though. and saying marcos is 'kinda dumb' was really gross. i don't take his lighthearted posting style as a reflection of his intelligence, i mean joe is basically a genius but he posts like a 12 year old
― flopson, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link
sorry to everyone for continuing this but M apologised and clarified almost immediately
and marcos was BEING dumb itt
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
it's ok we're all kinda dumb
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
― Mordy, Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:49 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is incredibly otm
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
i don't want to get into a whole conversation about ilx hiveminds - i do think it's very easy to run afoul of ilx CW and i don't think the board always has a lot of tolerance for dissenting views. it's a pretty homogenous place.
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
praxis has slightly different connotations to just substitute "practice" for it ... it has a philosophical/ethical element, as opposed to just "doing" ... even though it's most often associated in terms of contemporary/modern ppl like Hannah Arendt, Gramsci, and Paolo Freire, who are not "new agey" at all ... it would probably be closer to its meaning to say "mindful practice" as opposed to just "practice"
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:46 (42 minutes ago)
the schoolmaster thing is a bit awry given that afaict i am younger than 80% of the people i argue with though yeah i can be overly critical of arguments these days partly because there is a deficit of that on ilx
ilx now is often so consensual that everything congregates around the same themes etc, a sort of of sports fandom affiliation for #teamprogressives within which nobody really disagrees very much and the same complacent shit is trotted all the time without a lot of thought
like the post c&ped here was about AB (who i like) posting a guardian article from a learned member of the progressive fraternity and considering that to be in itself 'discourse'
'hivemind' is a bit unfair because it has connotations of lone wolves and sheeple, it's not so much that ilx needs a load of terribly opinionated nra members, fanatical libertarians etc to diversify everything, rather just a little less congeniality, otm, this, tbomb, ^^^^ type of stuff
― Hayat Boumkattienne (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
well i'm roping shit/fart/piss/B.O. into one general umbrella here
― J0rdan S., Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:45 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
Do not open that umbrella.
― Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link