Best song on Kate Bush's Hounds Of Love

i love demanding listening btw, i just need to make sure i can commit the time/attention to be able to hang with it. which is hard when i'm in the middle of running errands or whatever.

right

miami vice??

*CONTROVERSIAL*
never forever and the dreaming are better than this

miami vice:

"i get outta my car" and the whole song breaks open

full episode is on hulu:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/14849/miami-vice-bushido

I was a latecomer to this album and Kate Bush in general, but I wish I could time-travel back and burn a copy of this albu, for all for the many girl/friends I had in high-school and college who thought Tori Amos invented this shit (though some of them seemed to think that Tori invented music itself, and an attempt to convince them otherwise, however reasonable, would likely have resulted in denial and/or rage).

*sorry for the typing mess.

yawn.

yawn kant tori read

Were you bored by my post, Tim, or are you just sleepy? Please insert zing here ____________________.

I can't really be bothered getting into the argument now, but in brief, the whole "Woah Kate Bush is the OG Tori Amos" line is:

a) wrong;
b) boring, lazy, overstated criticism along the lines of "Steely Dan is what punk was born to fight against" or "rap is nothing but bling and sexism" (albeit not as sweeping as those two examples); and
c) leaving aside whether it's fair on Tori Amos, a massive distortion of what makes Kate Bush interesting, by implicitly reducing her to whatever falls within the stylistic venn diagram created by the two artists, which is not much: they're actually very different as songwriters, as arrangers and as singers.

Fair enough. If it's a cliche to make the comparison, I wasn't aware of that, and I'm not really prepared for nuanced critical debate on the issue anyway, as I've never sat down and listened to them side by side. I have been listening to a lot of Kate Bush recently, and have been struck by the vocal resemblance, so I'll stand by that at least.

:)

I probably overreact when i see the comparison because it's made so often and in such sweeping terms from people who basically want an easy stick to beat one or both artists with - I'm sure a search of the ILM archives will yield any number of examples, many of which i've responded to in more detail.

What most annoys me about it is that it implies that there is only space for one of these artists, when the same claim would not be made about actually-more-similar groups and artists etc. It's as if "genre" is a prop reserved exclusively for male rock.

(plus Tori sounds more like Stevie Nicks crossed with Joni Mitchell)

Lex summed it up pretty concisely previously:

"They play the piano and their vocal ranges overlap and that is all they share. Their entire aesthetic foundations are completely different - they sing about wildly different subjects in wildly different ways. Tori has not professed any debt to Kate Bush - what she has said is that she was never aware of Kate Bush until very late because Kate Bush never really broke America to a great extent."

...

"Their vocal differences are more numerous and more important {than their vocal similarites}... Tori can rasp in a way Kate doesn't, and always sounds libidinous while Kate sounds asexual. Also, their vocals work in completely different ways - when Kate does kooky affectations, it's deliberate and controlled, almost like performance art; Tori, on the other hand, makes her mispronunciations and mannerisms sound natural by-products of her emotion.

asexual otm

one of the most obvious differences to me s the instrumentation. i guess i see more similarity when it comes to early kate, but later kate employed a variety of instruments/synths that tori never seemed to.

Alright, but we know that The Church have just covered Kate Bush's song Hounds of Love right?

I can't keep up with this thread. I'm too drunk just now.

The who the what now?

I stuck this on earlier, and what really jumped out was Kate's sibilant 'ess'es, especially on the title track. I've never noticed it before, but she's quite hissy (also breathier than I'd thought). Is it maybe a treatment on the vocal, or even the limitation of mp3 as a format?

it's kate dude

she's always been a grand enunciator. her t's, c's and k's are pretty mean too

I'm cool with it

whatever man you said kate was a limitation of mp3 as a format

No I didn't. Don't be a dick.

XD

It's in the trees
it's coming

^^^^THIS

"Hounds of Love" and "Hello Earth" are probably my favorites? Love the whole album to death, though.

Night of the Demon is a classic film and worth watching, she sampled those lines for a reason

i need to do that

strongest 1-2 opening-songs punch ever, in the history of albums and opening songs and punches

<3 u kate

my life in the bush of kate

how dare u

I was just showed the video of This Woman's Work to the new girl I'm seeing and she talked the whole time???

Bad sign

god poor show for my 2 faves Under Ice and Dream Of Sheep.

wait aren't you the dude whose ex asked you if you still listen to kate?

Yes I am, none of the women I know are crazy about Kate Bush. I don't understand.

Running up That Hill is the most dull song on the entire album for me. Whenever I listen to Hounds, I start at track 3.

― butchy, Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:22 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark

i really hate you

― cutty, Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:23 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark

"Mother Stands for Comfort" should've got votes.

V. surprised to see this as ILX's No. 1 of the 80s. Not upset, by any means (Hounds Of Love is great), but surprised.

it's my #1 of all time, so not surprising

And Dream of Sheep is so pretty

The title track wuz robbed.

No.4 of the eighties, unless someone's done a follow-up poll really quick

i just know that something good is going to happen fyi.

every song should have got 100 votes

Just looked out the window and realised its a HoL day.
If I had to pick one track it would be Hello Earth, because it has to be one of the most moving pieces of music ever made.
Am also fond of the bit where she'll "pause for a jet" in The Big Sky, or the relentless trudge of strings in Cloudbusting, or those sntaches of voices like waking from a dream, or being ill as a child: "Look who's here to see you."
Incidentally, a friend of ours knocked up one of those Wilhelm Reich cloudbusting gizmos in our back garden. The conversation went like this.
"So Charles, is it supposed to make it rain, or prevent rain?"
"Well, er, it's supposed to promote balance..."
"So sometimes it'll make it rain, and sometimes it won't"
"Er, yes"