ILX'S 100 GREATEST VIDEO GAMES EVER

I still like generations -- question is, would we start at 1? 2? (3 is where everyone's a renaissance person i think, probably a lot more response on best NES vs best Atari 2600)

(and all 80s = good luck atari 2600)

How do arcade and personal computer games fit in though?

i reckon i might well be the biggest Football Manager saddo left on this board and no fucken way am i distinguishing one year from another, bundle or die imo

also if we do this again maybe my ballot won't get disappeared

is ILX still british enough for lords of midnight to place

important questions 2015

The handhelds hold roughly similar generations as well (DS vs PSP, 3DS vs Vita). The problem of course is that the PC doesn't really care - so where does a game released before the last PS3 title but after the first PS4 count? And that's not counting staggered console release dates.

Hmm maybe decades is just the best way to do it then. Until '89, 90-99, 00-09?

or make best-computer-games its own category? 1/2gen, 3,gen, 4gen, ... & computer games

I like mixing everything together but I'll go with whatever

I understand that this would probably be a totally separate thing, but it'd also be cool to see a poll by genre.

I really see no reason to segregate computer games off in their own space, just reduces turnout in every poll as people may not feel they have enough of a stake to throw in on any given individual poll. Plus, a lot of work for the poll-runner etc.

If they need to be broken down, decades makes more sense - you'll catch people who were gaming a lot at a certain moment in time, regardless of how they split their time between arcade/console/computers. Plus, then the results feel more like a comparison among peers, which could be more interesting - - - ranking Zelda vs. Mario 3 is meaningful in a way that ranking Asteroids vs. Half-Life 2 might not be.

however we do it can we have a lot of votes on our ballots? esp for games i'm gonna be bummed if i only get like 25 spots.

just throw everything together, if the kids can't deal with the fact that games were better back in my day then fuck em

This was a really bizarre list. No fighting games either, which is kind of understandable because they usually tend to blur into series rather than stand on their own.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, January 26, 2015 7:36 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Everyone thought someone else was going to burn their one '90s pick on Street Fighter II, but it turned out there were a lot of good games made in the 1990s.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, January 26, 2015 7:50 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Unforgivable!

No offense to Rygar, but there is no way it would have made it on my ballot had Street Fighter 2, any Sim City, DOOM, or Ms. Pac-Man been available.

for kicks heres another thing we did

ILX TOP PS2 GAMES POLL RESULTS (116 - 86)
ILX TOP PS2 GAMES POLL RESULTS (85-51)
ILX TOP PS2 GAMES POLL RESULTS (48-21)
ILX TOP PS2 GAMES POLL RESULTS (20-1)

I love that it went :

100-7. other games
6. Team Ico game
5. Katamari game
4. GTA game
3. GTA game
2. Katamari game
1. Team Ico game

And their combined scores wouldve been
3. GTA games, 280 (incl. gta3)
2. Katamari games, 294
1. Team Ico games, 303

yr hivemind @ work

old hivemind though tbh, i dunno if overwhelming lasting love for GTA, Katamari or Team Ico still exists universally on this board

hmm maybe, in the context of ps2 i can't imagine they'd move far from the top...

dang it yall, i am seriously considering running an X360+PS3+Wii "seventh generation" ILX poll just so i can think more and talk more about mgs4. i'm reviving this thread because the conversation kinda died, but i like games and rankings and shit.

i'm also into running previous gens polls too...
6: ps2/xbox/dreamcast/gamecube, even though we did ps2 already it'd be worth a redo including the xbox and gc and especially the DC
5: ps1/n64/saturn/jaguar?/3do?
4: snes/genesis/neo geo/tg16 (this one would be v popular... did we ever do this?)
3: nes/master system/7800?

the original issue with the generation method is that it became murky when to include PC games. easy fix: no pc games. we could do a separate thing for pc games at some point.

an october rollout for one of these would be pretty fun, what is up ILX can we do it?!

Sure thing, tho some of it will be odd voting patterns: Had a PS2, never touched an XBOX, so my voting will be heavily skewed. Less of a problem with later generations of course.

I would be down, for sure. I only opted in to the 7th gen when I bought a PS3 early last year and I've been binging ever since.

i'm game for this shit even tho i've only had a PS3 for a couple of months, i feel the need to get aggro about under-rated Wii games i have loved

It might get me all nostalgic about playing videogames, which is a thing I don't do anymore, but I'm in. 7th gen probably the peak of my gaming career, which tempts me towards the indefensible thesis that it was the ne plus ultra of videogaming, period.

yes

to the poll. real games don't come in "gens" obv

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anyway this will rule i will post about bully and sm64

i can take on the pc thing later actually if no one else wants! eventually, whenever.

i know sm64 is not seventh gen but i will probably talk about it anyway.

there are literally no good games after the ps2

to the poll. real games don't come in "gens" obv

Real music doesn't come on decades, but, y'know, it's a handy device.

this will rule

I think I might start w/ third generation, because A) moving fwd chronologically, B) hitting those nostalgia spots early, C) by the time I get to seventh generation it's more fully "complete" (i mean there are still games coming out for these consoles rn, they're just usually inferior ports of 8g games).

cool?

Home Game Poll vol. 1 (1984-1992): Nominate the best NES, Master System, etc console games ever (Nom deadline: September 8th)

love love love the idea of this coming back, still bummed about no PC/arcade games tbh. as a kid i was playing all three, maybe with a vague sense of them going with different moods, moods, or styles of play. (for that matter i was still playing atari games in 1990 if the mood struck me, but that's neither here nor there.) during the "third generation" i probably divided my time pretty evenly between NES, commodore and PC games, plus hitting up the arcade any time i was at the mall.

i get that "generations" get hazy but maybe you could just use the console generations as a basis for *years* and then extend the years to other systems? like, the famicom was released 1983, the super famicom 1990. so you could say, in this "third generation" poll, include all games released for the famicom and master system, period, plus all games released for anything else from 1983 to 1990. that may be hard to get used to, since a PC game from 1994 wouldn't appear on the same countdown as an NES game from 1994. but it kinda makes sense IMO - the PC and arcade games of 1994 have a lot more in common (genre, graphics, aspirations) with super nintendo games. like, street fighter II as an arcade game obviously belongs with genesis/SNES, generationally. and obviously the console hardware is locked in, so a "late" NES game sort of isn't on the same playing field as another game from 1994... not that i think anyone would vote for wario's woods. maybe kirby. i guess this sort of goes against my "what you might have been playing around the same time" logic. but in any case i still think it'd be less weird-feeling than not including them at all.

just my two cents though!

oops xpost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6_2ZGBZ0ZE

Even better, from 1994...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b16upFloYak

I remember kind of being frustrated that PC would never get a Mario game, and the side scrollers were close approximations but I kind of remember controller lag being a big problem for a long time. Maybe I am mis-remembering but now that they have emulators and know all about frame lag and stuff it makes a lot of sense. You were just never going to get that SMOOTH scrolling, that instantaneous controller feedback, etc. Going back and playing console games on the original equipment, the smoothness of everything is very apparent.

wow this is a pretty sick list. no pokemon games tho?

ha, wow, we had ABUSE and I'm sure I played it a lot but that longplay video is triggering no moments of memory, no familiar music or sound effects or anything. you see one minute and you've basically got it. i remember it being ... playable? sooooo gray and ugly-looking.

Abuse is 96 though.

What about speccy/commodore/st/amiga games, do they count as 'pc games'? That's my only chance of input pre gen 5.