Rolling 2015 Thread on Race

holy shit, the video crut posted upthread is AMAZING

this is like an extended fever dream

"If we been to your city..."
"...we've probably been to your mall!"
"that's all we do is go to malls, man."

Rolling 2015 Thread on DC Talk

rap is a thing

i had to stop watching that dc talk video around about where they go to all the malls, but yeah, a thing

did you miss the homoerotic wall smashing

yeah, but i'll return once refortified

it was god making him chocolate down deep inside that did me in

^^^

I came back and finished strong though.

The turn this thread took makes me want to go to my attic and dig out all my old CCM tapes, listen to them and see which ones were actually worthwhile music.

One of my good friends in high school worked at some chain Christian book/clothing/record store (blanking on the name, but basically a Christian Borders with more tchotchkes), so I was exposed to a lot of this stuff. DC Talk instantly made me flash back to flipping through the racks and reading song titles for the CCM takes on hardcore rap, among others. This was also the type of place that sold those Jesus-themed t-shirts that were plays on famous brands or logos.

things like this:
http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/02/45/45/678219/3/628x471.jpg

Thanks a latte Jesus!

http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/images/covers/stryper-in-god-we-trust-20120505154243.jpg

When I was in fifth grade I bought my cassette of In God We Trust at a civil war battleground gift shop along with a confederate flag keychain.

a studio I was working in used to have piles of issues of this and it was some of the funniest shit ever. they try *very* hard to trick you into not noticing they're a CCM publication

made it! pity me.

Uh dc talk is now favoriting my tweets :(

oh dude. genuine lols over here.

expose your shameful lack of basic knowledge herein

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/world/do-you-know-africa/

"Decent.
Final score: 59% correct."

i was always only 1 country off, i swear

http://i.imgur.com/Gw1cOBb.jpg

Hey kids, your favorite black barista here. So I am the only person of color employed at my specific shop (I live in suburbia and it’s a living hell), and today we had this as our trivia question (answer is B). I didn’t pick it, although almost every white person who came in assumed I did. I thought I’d share some of the gems I heard because of it: http://facingthewaves.tumblr.com/post/109928643648/hey-kids-your-favorite-black-barista-here-so-i

damn! what a nightmare.

Way to go, MN

jesus

Black Guy: *gives me the “can u believe this fucking cracker” look*
Me: *gives him the “I know brotha just pray to the lord for strength” look*

needs emojis

Tomorrow he should put up a trivia question about Jimmy Buffet or something and then have black friends come in and complain about it

I hope she doesn't lose her job over this post, because it seems like it might be sort of easy to narrow down where she works (especially with the photo attached).

Maybe she's got a cool boss.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-features/1.640997

Crazy

fuck

worst "guess who's coming to dinner" concept yet obv

that is insane

when people who mean well say and do stupid shit

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/11/entertainment/feat-joni-mitchell-black-man/index.html

Jesus, Joni.

right here, right now
there is no other place I'd rather be
right here, right now
putting on blackface to mess with a photographer

so that's what "Both Sides Now" is about.

yep that's our Joni. in the context of the full album packaging, I always got a sense of a provocation of her folk purist audience that was savaging her for the jazz direction on the last few records. maybe I shouldn't find this amazing:

http://cdn.discogs.com/HOgXrRIhobcxE0DHdmBMatqHRJY=/fit-in/600x592/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-625916-1303273301.jpeg.jpg

she got shit for the blackface thing at the time iirc

there is something v classically stereotypical white 60s liberal about her whole black male fetishization thing there

always wondered about this line: "I had me a man in summertime. He had summer-colored skin"

http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2015/02/12/385777366/a-black-mississippi-judges-breathtaking-speech-to-three-white-murderers

"There is a reason that I require all new agents and analysts to study the FBI’s interaction with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and to visit his memorial in Washington as part of their training. And there is a reason I keep on my desk a copy of Attorney General Robert Kennedy’s approval of J. Edgar Hoover’s request to wiretap Dr. King. It is a single page. The entire application is five sentences long, it is without fact or substance, and is predicated on the naked assertion that there is “communist influence in the racial situation.” The reason I do those things is to ensure that we remember our mistakes and that we learn from them."

FBI director James Comey, Feb 12

http://m.fbi.gov/#http://www.fbi.gov/news/speeches/hard-truths-law-enforcement-and-race

He also said this tho:

"But racial bias isn’t epidemic in law enforcement any more than it is epidemic in academia or the arts. In fact, I believe law enforcement overwhelmingly attracts people who want to do good for a living—people who risk their lives because they want to help other people."

i had forgotten comey was made FBI head...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=872405196154881

O_o way to promote your product. As usual the doubling down under criticism is the most depressing

"If you feel your rights are being violated, please contact the civil rights department with your concerns."

Remembering is all well and good, but it isn't justice.

Here's today's outrage fodder: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/local-fox-anchor-complains-about-lady-gagas-jigaboo-music-during-oscars-coverage/#.VOtPuYtJYFU.twitter

xp: I can honestly say that I've never had another passenger feel my cock with the back of his hand in the security line and I am very sorry if that happened to you, forks

or maybe you missed the point of Dash's article

i got the point of the article. i was responding to sharivari's post directly above mine.

the vast majority of the people who pooh-pooh the concept of "safe spaces" have never lived under explicit 24/7 scrutiny and, when they do become aware of it in their lives, they are invariably the first to whine about governmental overreach eroding their privacy

a) booming post and b) which reminds me of Charles Pierce's line about Libertarians getting reliably incensed about the TSA because as overwhelmingly straight white dudes that's basically the only thing similar to oppression they actually experience.

I left off the the coda to that, which is that when a person of color tells them that what they're experiencing is a fraction of what they could be experiencing if they weren't white, it's about a 50% chance that the person of color will be dismissed as a whiner who likes to play the race card and why won't anyone take their white fragility seriously

The unwillingness of many white people to acknowledge white privilege never fails to astound me. Like, the simple act of acknowledging it isn't going to do you any actual harm, you know.

the word "privilege" connotes an unearned success. so you basically want people to admit they got something they didn't earn themselves. keep in mind this is America.

I always figure that's a major component of it, yeah. People have to first acknowledge that concepts like fairness and justice and words like 'earn' and 'deserve' are all pretty much bullshit before they're able to acknowledge their own position in the web of bullshit.

ppl need to stop thinking things can be earned

People will have to get to the point where they're like 'what even is a bootstrap and why did I ever think I could pull anything up by it' before any more meaningful change can occur.

people are vacuous selfish fools who will believe any fancy that will justify what happens to others. hooray?

the vast majority of the people who pooh-pooh the concept of "safe spaces" have never lived under explicit 24/7 scrutiny and, when they do become aware of it in their lives, they are invariably the first to whine about governmental overreach eroding their privacy

pretty much yeah

have heard the "well they're the ones trying to hijack the planes, not us" argument. to that I say, "okay, how would you feel if we had security checkpoints at schools that only white boys had to go through". I guess if you don't have a problem with that...

not sure how that even applies to the overzealous xenophobic airline passenger shit which isn't based on a no-flight list or even accurate ethnic identification, just a vague "don't trust ppl who don't look like me" impulse

as far as why Indian-looking folks ought to be "randomly" screened more often. which often gets justified as "I'm not being racist, I'm being realistic"

Confrontation over dreadlocks on college campus goes viral

http://www.wcvb.com/news/confrontation-over-dreadlocks-on-college-campus-goes-viral/38755010

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/25/rachel-dolezal-not-going-stoop-apologise-grovel

Today Dolezal is jobless, and feeding her family with food stamps. A friend helped her pay this month’s rent; next month she expects to be homeless. She has applied for more than 100 jobs, but no one will hire her, not even to stack supermarket shelves. She applied for a position at the university where she used to teach, and says she was interviewed by former colleagues who pretended to have no recollection of having met her. The only work she has been offered is reality TV, and porn. She has changed her name on all her legal documents, but is still recognised wherever she goes. People point at her and laugh.

lol ok cmon admit you thought it too

Was just coming here to post this.

Obviously, regardless of what I think of her, I don't wish homelessness/joblessness on her (assuming that she's being honest about these things). But it's still infuriating that she won't own up to any wrongdoing. Even friends of mine have been more apologetic, saying "was what she done that bad", and really, conflating identifying closely with another race with "appropriating a race through a creepy form of playacting for reasons of pure self-interest and career advancement" is nagl.

http://thegrapevine.theroot.com/rachel-dolezal-has-changed-her-name-1792867445

If only she had picked a name like “Susie Reynolds,” she probably could have found a job by now.

Rolling 2017 Thread on Race

rachel dolezal is so 2015 though

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