Inconsequential music

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this might be a digression but the disco example you cited makes me think that you're talking about music that doesn't seem socially viable because the cultural moment or w/e prevents it from being useful for people as a signifier for their identity-creation. like people might feel silly listening to something even if it's 'good' b/c they don't know how it makes them look to be listening to it, or how it is meant to be interpreted socially. or maybe just that you don't like the obvious viable avenue for integrating it into a 'live' situation (e.g. check out these obscure dusty grooves on soul night w/$4 drinks.) but that sounds not as broad as what you're alluding to in your OP.

i think a lot about playing out the music i listen to, and how the feeling of listening to something that i would be unlikely to ever be able to play out changes the experience i have listening to it privately. i also mentally mold hypothetical situations, e.g. the setting, people who'd be there, types of substances ingested, etc., while listening to stuff to create an ideal environment for it and that enhances my response to it. i consider it a kind of puzzle to try to figure out what kind of dj set and setting i would have to create to be able to 'successfully' play certain types of music. and i also think of how when creating a set it reflects on how people perceive my "brand" and i think i try to wiggle out of any particular brand b/c i would like to somehow reject identity-creation as an aspect of playing music i like for people, even though that's impossible. but a lot of times the reason i think about these sorts of things while listening to music is b/c it helps me responde to music in a way that i otherwise wouldn't due to blunted sensitivity from overconsumption or anhedonia or w/e

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 29 January 2015 04:57 (nine years ago) link

co-sign all of that. maybe i'm being too philosophical about a failure of imagination.

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 29 January 2015 05:22 (nine years ago) link

now you're making me think of star trek ii as a kirk/khan dj battle

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 29 January 2015 05:38 (nine years ago) link

you're welcome

languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 29 January 2015 05:47 (nine years ago) link

this is a fascinating thread, though i suspect that the approach to music appreciation being discussed is, at least in part, alien to me. i mean, i frequently buy or listen to music more or less at random, with little understanding of either the context from which it emerges or the sense in which it might culturally persist. i agree that there's something...i don't know, maybe i want to say "lonely" about such listening, in that (absent further exploration) it attaches to nothing, just hangs there as a detached bubble of experience.

http://www.recordsale.de/cdpix/f/foxy-party_boys(2).jpg

i don't have trouble sharing such enthusiasms, though. like, i bought a copy of the above album probably a decade ago, apropos of nothing, only because i was intrigued by the sui generis time capsule quality of the cover image. it's not bad on the whole, but it does contain one absolutely killer track, a goofy r&b/power-pop hybrid called "she's so cool". i played the shit out of this tune, foisted it everyone who'd listen (including ILX iirc). no one really gave a shit, but that didn't bother me much. i still have it, metaphorically speaking, and it's presently making me smile. is it "consequential"? i'd have to say no, not even within the scope of my own listening. but that's okay. given the chance, i'd happily play it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr_UcFCqFcQ

A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 January 2015 06:05 (nine years ago) link

inspired by this carles post

I dont understand any of this thread, but reading this particular link actually made me feel seasick/stressed

saer, Thursday, 29 January 2015 06:47 (nine years ago) link

This seems to perfectly describe all the music I listen to, as I never concern myself with things like consequences/importance/relevance/cultural context, or how to sell this music to others, or to make it look like something more than just sounds I enjoy. Music is pretty much a solitary and selfish experience as far as I'm concerned and none of these things seem to matter more than the actual act of listening.

Dinsdale, Thursday, 29 January 2015 08:23 (nine years ago) link

Although I might be posting off topic since I don't understand much of the OP and I'm merely trying to figure out what this is all about based on the subsequent messages.

Dinsdale, Thursday, 29 January 2015 08:28 (nine years ago) link

Different modes of listening but its the same here in the woods. Some magic happens and I forget the world, or it doesn't

saer, Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:19 (nine years ago) link

But I get stressed easily and like switching off the swirling tumult

saer, Thursday, 29 January 2015 09:20 (nine years ago) link

If it pops up on Forgetify its inconsequantial. I can't see how else music could qualify for this description.

29 facepalms, Thursday, 29 January 2015 12:34 (nine years ago) link


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