love the scientology building so much
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Saturday, 21 February 2015 20:21 (nine years ago) link
thetans in the architecture
― men without hat tips (Hunt3r), Saturday, 21 February 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
SF scientology building is kinda cool (the old Transamerica building)
Guess they like the style; the one in Madrid is very similar.
― drash, Saturday, 21 February 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link
i.e. wedge-shaped, ship-like. Flatiron building better watch out.
― drash, Saturday, 21 February 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link
As long as the information in the movie is based on the same as the hyper-vetted book, I don't see why it would prompt any legal action, for the same reason: if they sued, they'd have to introduce all sorts of crazy stuff into evidence they'd rather just keep hidden/made up.
I meant to wonder if this doc will cause backlash against scientology, rather than a legal action by the "church". The trailer I saw (which I think is the same one linked here but can't tell) had all these snippet quotes of "this will blow the whole thing open" etc. I guess to me it seems like scientology already won the big battles in the 80s and 90s - I am psyched for this doc but I don't expect it to do any actual damage. The book was incredibly neutral, it just told stories and indicted that way, which was highly effective. I guess I don't expect the doc to do anything more than reach a bigger audience.
― Moyes Enthusiast (LocalGarda), Sunday, 22 February 2015 00:02 (nine years ago) link
the big jump from New Yorker subscribers to HBO subscribers
― gr8080, Monday, 23 February 2015 14:24 (nine years ago) link
prob will be bigger globally - the book also was banned in the uk - even if the doc doesn't come out here a lot of people will still watch it.
― Moyes Enthusiast (LocalGarda), Monday, 23 February 2015 14:29 (nine years ago) link
Can the doc legally include all that crazy Tom Cruise stuff (like his Mission Impossible theme infomercial)?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 February 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link
god i hope so
― gr8080, Monday, 23 February 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/0Eq72g8.png
― gr8080, Friday, 27 March 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
sunday sunday sunday
mistah wright!
― kinder, Friday, 27 March 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
What did you all think?
Having read the book, I guess it was a bit underwhelming. Mainly because the book is just so exhaustively detailed.
I thought the doc explained the e-meter more clearly, and some of the personalities came across nicely. Also, lol at that awful song.
― Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Monday, 30 March 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
I loved it. I never read the book but I knew a lot of the details. I didnt know about the machinations behind getting tax exempt status though, thats mindblowing.
― tayto fan (Michael B), Monday, 30 March 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link
Insane. If only the IRS could have held their nerve.
― Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Monday, 30 March 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link
I dug it. I havent read the book & most of my knowledge is Hubbard/Parsons occult & early dianetics, so I found this v interesting + fking nuts
Hubbard footage (the color interview footage) STUFF OF NIGHTMAREShis mouth/teeth/lips so creepyeverything about him tbh
looooling at the meeting footage. william gibson retweeted someone saying that some of it looked like a bioshock level lol
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 March 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link
cavidge is a weird one reminds me of the pastor from True Blood
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 March 2015 22:27 (nine years ago) link
i actually went back and looked at the handshakes between cruise and miscavige a couple of times. creepy out.
― tayto fan (Michael B), Monday, 30 March 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link
The musical chairs story is some truly evil shit, again I think the book got across the horror of that even more than the doc, though I liked the way the doc did it. It might just be a case of the shock value being diminished entirely by knowing the big revelations.
― Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Monday, 30 March 2015 22:32 (nine years ago) link
L Ron's mouth and teeth :(
― polyphonic, Monday, 30 March 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link
Guess my favourite part of the book didn't get in:
http://i62.tinypic.com/312e0kx.jpg
― Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Monday, 30 March 2015 22:44 (nine years ago) link
oh man, guess I have no reason to watch this now. :\
― ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 March 2015 22:47 (nine years ago) link
http://www.bustle.com/articles/72106-where-is-shelly-miscavige-wife-of-scientology-leader-david-miscavige-she-hasnt-been-seen-in-7
― tayto fan (Michael B), Monday, 30 March 2015 23:06 (nine years ago) link
hubbard + parsons occult shenanigans deserves it's own 2hr doc imo
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 March 2015 23:14 (nine years ago) link
Damn Parsons, slow down.
― A-Hanisi Coates (Leee), Monday, 30 March 2015 23:22 (nine years ago) link
yeah this stuff is practically a bottomless well.
why no mention in the doc about miscavige's missing wife?
― ryan, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 15:11 (nine years ago) link
oh sorry missed that link above!
― ryan, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 15:12 (nine years ago) link
i wish that the doc had included more about the auditing process. there's something fascinating about it--and it seems to be the kernel of a "real" experience which gets people hooked and which allows for all the other flim-flam to be attached to it.
― ryan, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link
i wanna watch this so badly
― swae lee is the sremmurd for rae dad (crüt), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 15:34 (nine years ago) link
Started it last night, and this
Hubbard footage (the color interview footage) STUFF OF NIGHTMAREShis mouth/teeth/lips so creepy
is OTMFM.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
closeup of teeth def the biggest thing not mentioned in the book
― gr8080, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link
Pretty uncanny how much he looks like Philip Seymour Hoffman in some of those interviews. Or vice versa I guess
― badg, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link
also maybe that one woman who was in sea org-- seemed like her departure from the church happened after the book got published?
― gr8080, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link
lol @ at least 3 gary larson books on the NYT bestseller list along with dianetics
― swae lee is the sremmurd for rae dad (crüt), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 16:06 (nine years ago) link
i wanna watch this really badly too but what's the deal with the teeth?
― groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
He and the Lieutenant of the Morannon have the same dentist, apparently.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link
nothing really wrong with his teeth he just looks like darrell hammond
― swae lee is the sremmurd for rae dad (crüt), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link
http://photos.vanityfair.com/2015/03/30/55196c270acde13473db3807_going-clear-LRH.gif
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link
ah i seehe has stained old man pointiesthese days rich old ppl all have veneers so you don't get teeth like that anymore
― groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link
i'm assuming as soon as Hubbard died and leveled up to space god or whatever, he commanded the cosmos to amputate the lower half of his face
― who is dankey kang (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link
thanks, LL, now "stained old man pointies" is a phrase that will haunt me for the rest of my life
― gr8080, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
indifferent navy dentistry, pall malls and bourbon, all night writing manias, months at sea. just imagine.
― goole, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
in the movie there's a moment when Cruise, giving a speech up on that weird gold stage, says that "outside of LRH" (or something to that effect) that Miscavige is the greatest human he's ever met or whatever...does that mean that Cruise actually met LRH at some point. is that possible?
― ryan, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
It doesn't seem like he could have. He became a Scientologist after Hubbard was dead.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link
they still talk to LRH, I would bet
― mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
keep in mind LRH isn't dead, he merely shed his mortal form
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link
oh geez can you imagine if they have his creepy head in a jar and Miscavige and Cruise take it out and talk to it
― mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link
Let's hope that's all they do to it.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
one of the reasons I ask is because hubbard's status within the church seems ambiguous. is he holy? a God? merely "enlightened" a la Buddha? or just a founder of a school of thought which evolves and lives on without him? his texts are certainly treated as authoritative.
honestly I can forgive a lot but this shoddy theology really bugs me.
― ryan, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
prob the biggest thing that the film captured better than the book was how over-the-top the celebration was after they won their fight against the IRS
― gr8080, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link