some of us who are not hyperelectronified would like link to actual story instead of cryptic mystery posts
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 February 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
DUNEDIN, Fla. -- Toronto Blue Jays left fielder Michael Saunders stepped on a sprinkler while shagging fly balls Wednesday, tearing cartilage in his left knee and sidelining him until the All-Star break.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/12385936/michael-saunders-toronto-blue-jays-hurts-knee-due-sprinkler
― king of ilx's ice hockey/soccer venn intersection (Will M.), Thursday, 26 February 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
just like mickey mantle
― mookieproof, Thursday, 26 February 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
I don't think Mantle stepped on a sprinkler? Elliott Maddox did, during the two years the Yankees' home park was Shea.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 February 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link
ok, MM did, in the '51 WS
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 February 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
ban sprinklers
― qualx, Thursday, 26 February 2015 22:36 (nine years ago) link
johan!
― mookieproof, Thursday, 26 February 2015 23:07 (nine years ago) link
you know what doesn't need sprinklers? astroturf.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 27 February 2015 03:19 (nine years ago) link
but in Florida?
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 27 February 2015 03:24 (nine years ago) link
just making a joke. everyone makes a fuss about how the skydome is the last stadium using artificial turf and apparently every ball player hates the stuff etc
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 27 February 2015 03:31 (nine years ago) link
valencia will start in left, everything will be ok. everything will be ok
― dutch_justice, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
i just got the name of this thread a few days ago and laughed harder than i should have, so thanks for that :)
― king of ilx's ice hockey/soccer venn intersection (Will M.), Friday, 27 February 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link
signed johan santana also:http://www.amazinavenue.com/2015/2/26/8118021/blue-jays-sign-former-mets-pitcher-johan-santana
― king of ilx's ice hockey/soccer venn intersection (Will M.), Friday, 27 February 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
oh someone mentioned it alrteady. oops
― king of ilx's ice hockey/soccer venn intersection (Will M.), Friday, 27 February 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
Saunders now out only 4-6 weeks! Apparently surgery showed the knee cartilage was worse than expected, so they just took a bunch of stuff out rather than trying to fix anything...and this shortens the recovery time. suck it Pillar.
― dutch_justice, Saturday, 28 February 2015 04:51 (nine years ago) link
also they just signed Dayan Viciedo... so... ya. there's that.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 1 March 2015 03:25 (nine years ago) link
bummer about the 4-6 week news. he didn't want to get that surgery because it causes arthritis later in life but i guess his hands were tied?
― king of ilx's ice hockey/soccer venn intersection (Will M.), Sunday, 1 March 2015 05:55 (nine years ago) link
read somewhere he preferred this option anyways.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 1 March 2015 06:33 (nine years ago) link
take that, aaron sanchez
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
russell martin needs to relearn how to say 'out'
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link
was it like, a known quantity that this daniel norris dude lives in a van? http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/12420393/top-blue-jays-prospect-daniel-norris-lives-own-code
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 6 March 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link
new favorite player
― Bringing the mosh (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 6 March 2015 16:06 (nine years ago) link
the D Norris van coverage has been everywhere
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link
copycats
― mookieproof, Friday, 6 March 2015 16:12 (nine years ago) link
edwing is having some trouble with the new batter's box rules https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/B_RLiUJU8AA15IM.mp4
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 6 March 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
Daniel Norris:
http://www.vancouversun.com/cms/binary/10781747.jpg
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 6 March 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
obv has a gay cult following already
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
marcus stroman, torn acl, out for season
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link
Please tell me you're...no; no joke there. That's awful.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link
ugh
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link
my first reaction... "this is a joke right?"
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
very sad news, loved to see him play.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link
in memorandum http://gamereax.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/StromanSlider.gif
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
Stroman out, Encarnacion is hurting, RIP 2015 Blue Jays.
At least it wasn't an arm injury, I guess.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
I was aghast when I heard it was a bunting drill--for what, in preparation for the World Series?--but he was of course fielding bunts. I don't know if the year's a write-off or not. 15 wins/20-25 quality starts would have been a good year. That second number will be hard to pull out of thin air.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
kyle drabek is ready for his closeup
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 23:54 (nine years ago) link
I don't get some of the outrage over how he was hurt. like baseball players shouldnt be practicing baseball.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 02:29 (nine years ago) link
First and last time I'll ever be able to say this: a kid I used to coach (Darren Shred) is playing in today's Jays vs. Junior National Team game.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2015_03_15_cannae_tormlb_1&mode=gameday&c_id=tor
― clemenza, Sunday, 15 March 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
looks like he might have done ok vs Dickey?!
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 16 March 2015 04:39 (nine years ago) link
I didn't see it, but the play-by-play says he grounded out to third.
― clemenza, Monday, 16 March 2015 13:59 (nine years ago) link
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/blue-jays-of-kevin-pillar-says-oblique-straining-sneeze-not-a-big-deal-1.2996194
― Common Street Screwers (Leee), Monday, 16 March 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
randy wolf, minor league deal
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
delabar mad
― mookieproof, Thursday, 26 March 2015 14:09 (nine years ago) link
kyle drabek is ready for his closeup― mookieproof, Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:54 PM (2 weeks ago)
― mookieproof, Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:54 PM (2 weeks ago)
claimed off waivers by the white sox
/tinstaapp
― mookieproof, Friday, 27 March 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
http://cdn.fangraphs.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/DickeyMartin1.gif
good luck russell martin
― who is dankey kang (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
doug mirabelli is available
― mookieproof, Thursday, 2 April 2015 00:58 (nine years ago) link
i very much enjoyed that 3rd inning. glad i was able to catch it over my lunch break!
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 6 April 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link
xp he's not that far from canada tbh http://www.cbgreatlakes.com/doug.mirabelli
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 6 April 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link
they can pick him up in a helicopter and close all the lanes to the stadium like the red sox did during the great mirabelli airlift of 2007 or whenever that was
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 6 April 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
Should be Dalton Pompey's AB track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB5isaB32QA
tagada tagada voila les Daltons
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 6 April 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link
I don't think it would - iirc they have ~35-40mm to play with. A slight back loading of the last 4-5 years and it works out. Tho I honestly don't expect them to land either. I figure Zimmerman would be a more reasonable target.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 November 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link
This Cleveland makeover's starting to get a little creepy. The other day the FAN said they're about to offer Eric Wedge a job "in some capacity." Not that that would give the current manager reason to start looking over his shoulder or anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goh7zOeOS_U
― clemenza, Friday, 4 December 2015 04:16 (eight years ago) link
Haven't read anything yet, just guessing: they're looking at Pompey for left, looking at a platoon, or looking to move Devon Travis out there when he returns. Would this be a shutdown bullpen on the order of the Royals (or Yankees): Sanchez, Storen, Cecil, Osuna? I don't know, and don't know if they're looking at Osuna or Storen as closer.
― clemenza, Sunday, 10 January 2016 14:43 (eight years ago) link
you think they're that sold on Goins? i don't really see the need to move Devon, between the inevitable injuries to him and Tulo and rest days, I'm sure Ryan will be getting enough playing time.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 11 January 2016 17:02 (eight years ago) link
The bandwagon hadn't pulled into my neighborhood early last season, so I don't have a good sense of Travis. Myself, I was really, really impressed with Goins--his defense was incredible. If he hits .250 like last year, I think he's a major plus. (Indeed, his WAR was 2.7 in 128 games.) The club, I don't know.
Who's leadoff now? I don't think they'll try Tulowitzki again. I can maybe see Pillar there, but he'd need another 50 points of OBP. I guess Travis or Pompey.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 January 2016 22:54 (eight years ago) link
when your lineup has tulo, donaldson, jose and edwin, i think you need to re-think the concept of "leadoff" and just plug them all up at the top.
― nerd shit (Will M.), Monday, 11 January 2016 22:57 (eight years ago) link
That's what a guy at work said--put Donaldson leadoff. I don't think I'd want that...I guess I've got the residue of traditional ideas about that spot: good OBP, speed (not necessarily stolen bases), some extra-base pop. The first two describe Donaldson, but obviously he exceeds "some" by quite a bit. I like him second or third.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 January 2016 23:54 (eight years ago) link
i guess you would go with your best OBP guy at leadoff then. which would be Bautista. which might cause a minor uprising within the casual fan masses. i could live with Travis or Pompey at leadoff (assuming Pomp bounces back).
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 06:10 (eight years ago) link
happy 60th to rance mulliniks
― mookieproof, Friday, 15 January 2016 22:49 (eight years ago) link
@BlueJaysWe are pleased to announce that work will begin the week of Feb 8 to install a regulation dirt infield in time for the 2016 regular season
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 21:08 (eight years ago) link
i'm a little surprised. this was supposed to take years to get going.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 February 2016 00:24 (eight years ago) link
gotta save tulo
― mookieproof, Thursday, 4 February 2016 00:28 (eight years ago) link
can't they just strap turf to the underside of his cleats?!
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 February 2016 00:30 (eight years ago) link
oh shit. i guess i misunderstood – it's literally just the dirt area and not any of part of the field/grass etc
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 February 2016 00:41 (eight years ago) link
Wait, so what they have now is some kind of synthetic dirt?
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 4 February 2016 11:12 (eight years ago) link
bautista wants to play another five years, has given the jays the $ figure that will require
― mookieproof, Monday, 22 February 2016 21:22 (eight years ago) link
plus, hometown discount: "Doesn’t exist. Not in my world..."
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 22 February 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link
tbf he's been grossly underpaid on his current contract, but i don't think that's going to help too much when he's a 36-year-old free agent
― mookieproof, Monday, 22 February 2016 21:43 (eight years ago) link
Time for a new thread, Thermo. "I'm Still Angry at Ben Revere"...something more positive--it was a great year.
― clemenza, Monday, 22 February 2016 21:57 (eight years ago) link
Wha? Whym I in charge of thread makin here?!
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 04:48 (eight years ago) link
It has to do with Fermat's Theorem, or Euler's Conjecture, or symmetry, or something mathematical--can't remember exactly.
I don't remember where Bautista's current contract placed him on the spectrum when it was signed--$64 million/5 years in 2012--but if he's been grossly underpaid the past couple of years, isn't that short-sightedness on his part (and quite common in baseball)? You sign for what you think you're worth, the market changes, and eventually you're a bargain. Did he really give them a "hometown discount" in 2011?
― clemenza, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 12:48 (eight years ago) link
he gave them them the "last season may have been a fluke" discount.
apparently the Jays almost dealt Saunders for Jay Bruce?!
what amazes me the most is that there's a player with a no trade clause, who *doesn't* have the Jays on it!
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 16:05 (eight years ago) link
haha i saw somewhere that the jays *were* on his no-trade list last year but he took them off sometime recently
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 16:08 (eight years ago) link
i think the Jays should just automatically trade for anyone who who omits them from their list. as a kind of "thank you".
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link
he gave them them the "last season may have been a fluke" discount
Yes--with a bit of "I've already turned 30" discount thrown in for good measure.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 16:35 (eight years ago) link
there's a lot of money in baseball these days, but i don't think anyone is going to offer jbats $150m for his age 36-40 seasons
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link
I think it's a huge bluff by Bautista -- from his perspective if the Jays are dumb enough to give him the money then great, and at the very least they'll be scared enough to go all in this season because they (Jays' ownership) know JBats will walk.
What he hasn't considered is option c), that the new/old Jays regime doesn't give a crap about winning or losing or his contract demands.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 27 February 2016 11:18 (eight years ago) link
I'm not sure what he was thinking. He must realize the team wasn't likely to keep both him and EE (not at market value); so I do t get why'd he be so rigid right out of the gates.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 27 February 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link
No harm really in playing hardball with management.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link
uhya... behind closed doors maybe.
well actually yes – the harm maybe be management decides to pay out the other guy well into his 30's, who will probably be DH'ing for most of his contract instead of you!
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 27 February 2016 21:39 (eight years ago) link
All the more reason to be aggressive now! He knows he's competing against an equally popular teammate and there's only going to be room for one of them on the team, isn't it better to go on the offensive and dictate the terms of the debate?
I think he also realizes that the only way to get our cheapskate ownership to deal with him fairly (if he's interested in staying with the team) is by making his demands public and getting the fans on his side.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 28 February 2016 12:56 (eight years ago) link
I'd be interested in a study that compares Bautista to another set of similarly-skilled 35-year-olds. (Could be difficult to find a large enough pool of players--Bautista's career arc has been pretty unusual.) Seems to me that the biggest risk he's taking is that he heads into the break this year hitting .225 with 11 home runs or something. That wouldn't be out of the question for someone his age.
― clemenza, Sunday, 28 February 2016 14:56 (eight years ago) link
His age-based similarity scores (on B-R) list names like Jason Bay, JD Drew, David Justice, and Jay Buhner. All of them were good through Age 34, and all of them pretty much fell apart within the next couple of years. But none of them were as good as Bautista has been from Ages 30-34.
Darryl Strawberry appears as a comp, but it's misleading -- Straw was great in his 20's and then declined, JBats had his first great season at age 29, but if you compare their career stats at Age 34, they're similar.
So yeah, finding a good comp is tough.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 10:06 (eight years ago) link
Oh please:
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14943065/goose-gossage-rips-jose-bautista-toronto-blue-jays-nerds-ruining-baseball
I suspect half the reason people my age remember Gossage so well is because of the flair and colour he brought to the game--he was a character. I know I've said that walk-off bedlam for a meaningless game in June can be a bit much, but the bat-flip game wasn't that.
― clemenza, Thursday, 10 March 2016 21:51 (eight years ago) link
worst thing about north american sports in general and baseball in particular: old white guys getting mad at non-whites for being insufficiently reticent.
someone started a new thread:
In the Unlikely Event Drew Hutchison Posts a Sub-5.00 ERA, How Will You React? (Toronto Blue Jays 2016)
― uncle tenderlegdrop (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 10 March 2016 22:09 (eight years ago) link
Yes, someone...I thought I was on the new one, oops.
You're right--I didn't even mention the underlying racial implications. I don't know much about Gossage the person, so it's not an accusation, but you can't avoid acknowledging that. Anyway, Bautista handled it well, and I like the Harper quote in there.
― clemenza, Thursday, 10 March 2016 22:16 (eight years ago) link
haha hadn't noticed you were the thread starter on the other one
― uncle tenderlegdrop (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 10 March 2016 22:37 (eight years ago) link