Come anticipate Roy Hodgson's three months in charge og England with me.

you'd want a whole Sunderland for that

his house is prob worth more than several of their first team

Goalkeepers: Fraser Forster (Southampton), Joe Hart (Manchester City).

Defenders: Leighton Baines (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Nathaniel Clyne (Southampton), Kieran Gibbs (Arsenal), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Phil Jones (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), Chris Smalling (Manchester United), Kyle Walker (Tottenham Hotspur).

Midfielders: Ross Barkley (Everton), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Fabian Delph (Aston Villa), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Lallana (Liverpool), James Milner (Manchester City), Raheem Sterling (Liverpool), Andros Townsend (Tottenham Hotspur), Theo Walcott (Arsenal).

Forwards: Harry Kane (Tottenham Hotspur), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Danny Welbeck (Arsenal).

That collection of defenders in particular is laughable as is the paucity of alternatives.

don't know why Hodgson thinks that negging Alli is a good thing

Was he?

Read somewhere that Wayne Rooney has started running again this week. Didn't see it mentioned whether it was for the first time in ten years or what did they mean.

Assuming Wilshere is going to be injured 90% of the time, and Carrick is too old and slow, then Alli is probably the only realistic choice for a deep-lying playmaker role, assuming Hodgson was to go with one. But I can't see that being the best use of him given that his supply line to Kane has been so productive all season. That role might be more of an option with Vardy in the side, although I'm guessing he'll be the impact sub to take advantage of tiring defenders.

I'm not sure I know what England's best XI looks like that this stage, although it probably doesn't involve Rooney. There are several very good English players to have emerged since the last World Cup so a creditable QF exit should be within reach, but any of the conceivable CB pairings look a long way short of international standard.

Even allowing for the patchiness of the squad and Sterling being injured, surely there has to be a better right-sided option than Danny Welbeck?

I haven't seen or heard too much of him this season, but how has Henderson being doing?

Was he?

Could be this generation's Bryan Robson, according to Woy.

And if that's negging

Not negging, sorry

Ha

Don't remember Robson's playing career rly

Nice

Dier pointing.

Lol Hart might have stopped that. Might.

Excellent from Kane.

Why does the further centre half from the cross ever, I mean ever, let the centre forward behind him?

Jesus, that was great.

Oh wow

The fuck could u put Rooney back ahead of either

You wouldn't bet against Germany scoring with any of their attacks and the centre backs and keepers have been dodgy but this has been a really good performance from England irrespective of what happens in the last ten minutes. They look faster and more creative with Alli, Kane and Welbeck than I can recall seeing them in a long time. Putting Rooney back in to gum up the works would be criminal.

Ha!

Defence is funny. Covering, positioning all seems fine and yet the simplest of balls are getting into the danger areas.

It was a very decent England front 6 which leaves some decisions down the Woy

Sounds like a river

looks like a combination of trying to post from a phone after i've been in the pub for 10 hours

this has been a really good performance from England irrespective of what happens in the last ten minutes. They look faster and more creative with Alli, Kane and Welbeck than I can recall seeing them in a long time. Putting Rooney back in to gum up the works would be criminal.

Putting Rooney back into the team would be an act of wanton vandalism at this stage, to the extent that I'm actually wondering if it will even happen. In general, there was a distinct lack of the kind of surliness you used to get from England players, a sense that this group actually want to play for England. The problem is that expectations were relatively low and will now be ratcheted up in the usual tedious way, probably getting to a few of them. OTOH most of them seem like a decent crop of kids, personality-wise, so maybe that won't happen.

Hodgson has been extremely fortunate to have had both Pochettino and Klopp managing in the Premiership at the same time, with a couple of players who have been managed by both. It means that there's a ready-made footballing philosophy that can be imported wholesale. There's a decent argument to be made for building the midfield entirely out of Spurs and Liverpool players because they'll outrun most teams at the tournament - getting through England's midfield could be a lot more difficult than its been for a while. It'll need to be because the defence looks really suspect.

The movement and interplay in advanced positions was better than I've seen from England in a very long time, refreshing to see an England team not just chugging up and down the field in tramlines. The lol golden generation contained several very good players but it wasn't overburdened with pace, so that's another thing this lot have in their favour.

Sterling and Sturridge might yet come into the equation (a fully-fit Sturridge is still England's best striker, although Kane is gaining ground), but it's very difficult to see a serious argument to be made for including the likes of Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Townsend and Ashley Young.

yeah mostly otm. there is still going to be a tedious pundits and old lags debate about Rooney from now until the tournament, Hodgson shd get it over with and announce his absence from the squad now just for the lulz/clarity

Expecting Hodgson to come out and reassure people that Rooney is still the first name on the teamsheet.

i fear that and want it in almost equal measure

https://twitter.com/WayneRooney/status/713844935875760135

"What a result well done boys. Great spirit and to come back from 2 down in Germany 👍👍 buzzing"

The responses to this are predictable and good.

Was it, thinking of LFC/spurs attack contingent, coincidence that welbeck slowed moves down a lot by wanting an extra touch all night?

I like welbeck but

Hodgson has already said that Rooney isn't an automatic starter. The chances are he will be.

:-(

at right-back

Clyne played pretty well there so I wouldn't say Rooney was nailed on even in his natural position.

Worth discussing

Kyle Walker possibly ahead of him too.

though to many he's shite, glen johnson can move at a running pace so that puts him at an advantage to rooney

What happened to Leighton Baines by the way? Is it just persistent injuries or has he dropped out of the reckoning altogether?

I mean maybe the group stages clash with that Cast reunion gig, who knows?

he was exposed as a hilarious Sacha Baron Cohen character iirc

https://twitter.com/Vondopoulos/status/714396713017020416

Marcus Rashford

Done enough for Roy to take him with him?

lol

Extra CB might actually be worth taking.

Shane Long

Harry Arter

England team to play Portugal: Hart; Walker, Cahill, Smalling, Rose; Dier, Milner, Alli, Rooney (c); Kane, Vardy

No fucking around there.

Apart from the obvious?

This looks almost exactly like a potent attacking side pulled completely out of shape to allow Rooney to play in a position he isn't even any good in.

Kane taking free kicks is complete bullshit.