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god has never given me anything, darlin and it is my right to complain about what i want to!! thanks for the info tho

surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link

wait a minute, this is wagemann, innit. the "darlin" gives it away

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:04 (seventeen years ago) link

darlin isn't specific to wagemann, it seems, cuz wagemann i am not.

surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

re: tipping in australia, by a yank

drinks are pretty expensive and staff is reportedly better-paid upfront than in the usa. so no tipping, i was told. but: some places (mainly restaurants, it seems) add a 10% surcharge on holidays (which is fine, i guess), or sundays (which is less fine), or saturdays (which is ridiculous).

also, service wasn't particularly great, which may or may not have something to do with the lack of tipping. yet aussie bartenders/servers are all over clearing away yr empties--it's more a struggle to get more. weird.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

10% surcharge on holidays (which is fine, i guess), or sundays (which is less fine), or saturdays (which is ridiculous)

Based on a few months in Australia, I got the impression that they take their weekends rather more (i.e. less) seriously than in the UK or US. Some things even -- gasp! -- shut. The surcharge is related to the fact that restaurant probably pays its staff time-and-a-half or double time over the weekend.

Also, re: this thread and the many, many others. Why do people find tipping so confusing and infuriating? Americans and Brits drive on different sides of the road, and no one gets confused or infuriated by that. And NO ONE feels the need to defend their country's choice. It's merely a convention. Things be different in different parts of the world. Find out how tipping works, fit in (or don't), and forget about it.

caek (caek), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

YEAH!

surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

no but honestly. drinks cost what like half the bottle would cost, and i'm supposed to give them MORE?

Buy a whole bottle, mix, serve, and drink it in your home. Or in the park or on the train, perhaps. Either way, then you won't have to put out the extra money for overhead like the edifice, cost of operations, and service.

it's not my job to subsidize theirs.

Yes, it is. Or more accurately, it is your obligation under this country's tipping system. Otherwise you are guilty of the offense of theft of services AND the more serious crime of aggrivated douchebaggery.

In other words (polyphonic's):

If you don't like tipping, don't drink in bars. Period.

a puppy holding a miller high life bottle (unclejessjess), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

can i lock this yet?

vita susicivus (blueski), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

please

lauren (laurenp), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Please do.

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

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surmounter (rra123), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

REVOLUTION!

If only there could be a similar revolution against tipping.

The Real Dirty Vicar (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 21 January 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

and a pint's a pint

US pints are smaller.

Ed (dali), Sunday, 21 January 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

but we were talking about stingy measures in the UK.

i think we should discuss every subject under the sun on this thread.

vita susicivus (blueski), Sunday, 21 January 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

"it's not just a city in China"

milo z (mlp), Sunday, 21 January 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

boy, i wish the image spam feature was turned off.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 22 January 2007 00:14 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.headcasebriefs.com/No%20Cow%20Tipping-tm.jpg

S- (sgh), Monday, 22 January 2007 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Definitely on the same track.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 22 January 2007 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link

isnt it a problem that there will always be douchebags that don't tip, and so the rest that do tip end up having to pay more to get the servers on a income level comparable to if they were just paid a straight wage?
so assuming income stays at the same level under both systems, instituting tipping effectively takes money from the nice people and gives it to the douchebags. how is this good?

webber (webber), Monday, 22 January 2007 01:55 (seventeen years ago) link

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Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 22 January 2007 05:21 (seventeen years ago) link

There is some crazy plan here in Ireland to reduce the wages of bar staff in the expectation that they will make it all back in tips, like in America. But this is not America, and people in pubs do not tip.

DV, you're joking? That will never work! Christ, most of the time we resent our bar staff charging us so much!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:52 (seventeen years ago) link

US pints are smaller.

This isn't really true. Either that or you and your Britishes kind have taken me to the wrong pubs, repeatedly. Or someone has taken you to bad ones in the US :(

AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Pleasant Plains, you win the most annoying post of all time award.

I'll give you tip (dirtyvicar), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

nothing anybody says on these threads is true. <- except that.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i've had 'normal' pints in the US tho yes.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

US pints are smaller.

also our seconds are shorter and our year is only 251 days. also, a day takes 13 hours here.

chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure US pints ARE smaller - isn't a US pint 16oz, and a UK one 20oz?

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I've seen both sizes. Varies from bar to bar.

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

It's true, actually. A pint in the US is 16 fl oz, but an Imperial pint is 20. Imperial pint glasses are usually thinner (so less interior space is taken up by the glass walls) and have that bulge at the top. Some bars in NYC follow the UK model, tho I have to think they're doing it for ex-pat or global credibility reasons (ie it's an Irish or Australian bar or etc).

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not sure where you are all getting these standard sizes, I've been to a significant amount of US bars where beers are served in the size glass that the individual beer is supposed to be served in, ie the chimay glass, the giant pilsners, etc. That all being said, I have never noticed a difference in the size of a standard bog tap brew in either country. I think this standards myth is a myth!

xpost yes Laurel but if you can find me a bar that actually goes by standardized THIS IS A PINT IT IS 160Z and not THESE ARE THE GLASSES WE HAVE THEY ARE SLIGHTLY BIGGIE SIZED COS THEY CAME FROM IKEA I will fall dead of shock.

AllyzayEisenschefterBDawkinsFlyingSquirrelRomoCrying.jpg (allyzay), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know about the US, but in the UK a pint is always 20oz = 568ml, by law, so we do have standard sizes. Maybe it's different there though.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

life without free pouring must be so depressing.

say it with blood diamonds (a_p), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Ally, eh? I have "pint glasses" in my cupboards at home (purchased at Fishes Eddy) and they are only the 16 oz kind. Pretty sure that it's an exception to the rule to have 20 oz glasses here; most bars I can think of, even respectable non-fancy ones like Freddy's and the Whiskey Ward, serve 16 oz pints. Does Ikea sell Imperial glasses? I think they usually have the little crown and a glyph etched on the side and I think you have to go looking for them.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Stop talking about pints I beg of you

Bhumibol Adulyadej is getting so thirsty (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Pleasant Plains, you win the most annoying post of all time award.

-- I'll give you tip (dirtyvica...), January 22nd, 2007 10:52 AM. (dirtyvicar) (later) (link)

Thanks! I certainly picked the most appropriate thread for it!

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 22 January 2007 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

our fluid ounces are smaller

RJG (RJG), Monday, 22 January 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

There are a lot of places in the US that use 14-oz pub glasses.

manifestation of the information age taken to the max (Brian Miller), Monday, 22 January 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

to the guy in the business suit at my restaurant today who ordered the salad and bottomless (making sure to enunciate this word) soup: 10% is not an acceptable tip. especially after you made me get you 4 more soups. please, do not come back. if you do, please request a different server to run their ass off for you.

critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I have teh total fear of going to Americky next month. I shall therefore not buy anything and let my brother do it all because he's used to your weirdy Americky ways. Hurrah!

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Mickey, have you figured out that the only people who care when waiters bitch are other waiters? And even they don't care that much.

milo z (mlp), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

get me more soup, boy

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Pls try to separate Mickey being Mickey from the shitty things that customers routinely do to waitstaff. Thank you.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

See if you hate doing stuff for other people so much, why do you work as a waiter? Seriously, is there *nothing* else you can do?

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

soup don't serve itself

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

ailsa, while in college for a part time job - no, really nothing better than that i can do. now that i'm done with college - yes. working on it.

critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i spilled shit all over my shirt too so i had to rush home to try to wash and iron clothes before going back. ughhhh

critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

xp The money is good and generally the people you work with are decent, but if serving makes you moan like Mickey, then quit.

Assuming a felon can get another job and all.

milo z (mlp), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

milo z, otm about the felony. i'm worried.

critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Home soup is killing the food service industry.

UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

ha ha

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link


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