Why does Jesus and Mary Chain's 'Psychocandy' sound like crap?

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never saw this thread. i downloaded some tracks off this a couple of years back and just assumed it was bad encoding/recording from analogue source or something, ha ha.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link

People not knowing that Psychocandy's supposed to sound like that make me feel v. old.

Raw, Uncompromising, and Noodly (noodle vague), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I knew that Psychocandy was supposed to sound like that when I first heard it; my issue was that, at the time, I had no interest in hearing something that sounded like that.

Dan (Thank God Tastes Change) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

The sleeve is GREAT...

Russell Dixon (Skinny), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

For best effect of course you need to play the vinyl on a cheap stereo with a worn needle. Which is how I spent the 80s listening to it.

Raw, Uncompromising, and Noodly (noodle vague), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh yes. Heaven.

Fish is Biodegradable! (That Means It Rots) (kate), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

21 yrs!

Merryweather (scarlet), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Was Darklands better?

Russell Dixon (Skinny), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't it coming out in SACD surround sound format or whatever? Perhaps I dreamt it.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I always thought the problem with Psychocandy's recording could be solved by just turning up your stereo to the point where the record started skipping, then turning it down just enough to keep the needle in the grooves. People who complain about it just aren't playing it loud enough.

js (honestengine), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

On their latest compilation the Psychocandy stuff sounds even harsher, which works in context: you can see how Darklands andAutomatic cleaned up the aural (if not lyrical) murk.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

And the winner for the most "not getting the point" special release is...

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000006NL3.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg

The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

It's like watching home movies in technicolour on a super wide screen!

Fish is Biodegradable! (That Means It Rots) (kate), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Why does Jesus and Mary Chain's 'Psychocandy' sound like crap?

`Cos you've got your had way up your ass, apparently.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Crap? Even on a terrible turntable in the 80s I thought Psychocandy really came pretty close to perfection. Now, on very good stereo equipment, it's still utterly amazing. That said, I am curious to hear what a remaster would do to it.

'Ears are broken' indeed. Vaguely remember some interview, Jim Reid relating how someone heard a song off Psychocandy playing on a radio, thinking the radio was broken, picking it up and banging it so it would get back to working correctly. I mean, if that was your band, tell me you wouldn't swell with pride.

bkjj40a (bkjj40a), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Was Darklands better?

No. But it's pretty good.

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:48 (eighteen years ago) link

No the drums are in the bathtub. Pay attention. The whole album sounds like it was recorded in a drafty men's lavatory, with the windows open and water dripping from the pipes. i.e. it's great.
-- spittle (ptu...), November 27th, 2003.
which wa y shoul the wind blow ?
it sounds better left in sealed plastic.

retrokid, Friday, 10 March 2006 02:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Nope, still sounds amazing to me, too. Bring the murk!

Context plays a part - the 'production' on those early records was diametrically opposed to the way a British indie release was meant to sound at the time.

Soukesian, Friday, 10 March 2006 07:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Was Darklands better?

I like it better because it's more my style. I do understand why the debut is considered their best though.

BeeOK (boo radley), Friday, 10 March 2006 08:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Did I dream the reissues then?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 10 March 2006 09:14 (eighteen years ago) link

JAMC...they looked KOOL too... :)

Russell Dixon (Skinny), Friday, 10 March 2006 09:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Sounded that way on purpose I think.

The "Darklands" album sounded way better, which was considered a "sellout" by some people.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Nothing on Psychocandy excites me like "Happy When It Rains."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Um, wow. This album is fucking awesome. Thanks, everyone. Really digging this and Loveless.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Nothing wrong with an album where every other song starts off like "Be My Baby." Seriously.

regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link

If my crap sounded like this, I'd be on the toilet for 45 minutes every time.

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link

The concept of "remastered" GBV albums still makes me rofl.

Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:32 (eighteen years ago) link

"Is it just me? The mix is horrible. The volume is low. I can barely listen to the thing. Please somebody remaster this."

it has always sounded amazing to me. maybe the cd sucks? i've never heard it on cd. some cds just aren't made very well. barbed wire kisses on cd always sounded good to me. and all the later stuff sounds fine on cd.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:45 (eighteen years ago) link

How do I shot feedback??

To my ears, the CD is slightly inferior to the original LP pressing, but it doesn't really sound like a different album or anything. I think the "Just Like Honey" production is flawless and of course sounded amazing in Lost in Translation.

i'm from hollywood, Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Scott, I just listened to the m-f on mp3 and it sounded great. So I'm thinking it's nothing to do with the medium.

regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link

it has always sounded amazing to me. maybe the cd sucks?

This wouldn't surprise me. I haven't heard "Psychocandy" on vinyl, but I have the "You Trip Me Up" single and it sounds INCREDIBLE -- 100X bigger and nastier and gorgeous than on CD. The vinyl grooves might be the widest I've seen ... that sucker was mastered LOUD.

I also think that the Peel Sessions versions of the "Psychocandy" tracks are far better than those on the album proper.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:40 (eighteen years ago) link

likewise, the sidewalking 12-inch has a monster sound that cd and vinyl comp versions don't come close to (also a john loder thang). john loder was a god to me, by the way. easily in my top ten of fave soundgeniuses.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I think if they do a remaster, they should bury it under MORE echo and feedback.

electrogrouse (haitch), Saturday, 11 March 2006 09:57 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
From Spin CDs:

5 Jesus & Mary Chain re-releases
These remasters now £7.99 each, click on the titles to pre-order and to check the tracks: 'Automatic', 'Darklands', 'Honey's Dead', 'Psychocandy' and 'Stoned And Dethroned'. Released 10th July.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 22 May 2006 06:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Each reissue will be released in dual disc format, with one side containing the remastered album and the other side featuring a high-resolution audio mix and three music videos.

The band's 1985 debut, Psychocandy — which was named one of Spin Magazine's 50 essential records — will include the videos for "Just Like Honey," "You Trip Me Up" and "Never Understand."

Darklands (1987) features videos for "Happy When It Rains," "April Skies" and the title track.

The DVD portion of 1989's Automatic is comprised of "Her Way Of Praying," "Blues From A Gun" and "Head On."

Honey's Dead, their underrated 1992 album, has clips for "Almost Gold," "Reverence" and "Far Gone And Out."

Stoned And Dethroned, the last JAMC album to be released via Warner Bros. in 1994, will be reissued with the videos for "Come On," "Snakedriver" and "Sometimes Always."

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Argh, so this is just a way of getting us to part with more of our hard earned cash, instead of just re-releasing the bloody video on DVD. Oh, just you watch, then they'll re-release that, too, with "bonus" tracks or something. ARgh.

Of course, you know I'm going to buy them.

The Minimal Criminal (kate), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

Anyone have any opinions on getting Psychocandy on Dualdisc (remastered) vs. the 180-gram vinyl release from Rhino? Decisions, decisions...

Reatards Unite, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Dualdisc has the videos which are GREAT.

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone have any opinions on getting Psychocandy on Dualdisc (remastered) vs. the 180-gram vinyl release from Rhino?

first, this thread is a great read.

and because of that i broke open my dualdisc of Psychocandy. it's a must, if you own the 80's version of this CD. it's sound cleaned up without losing any of the dirtiness. what a album, one of the best ever!

Bee OK, Friday, 29 June 2007 03:22 (sixteen years ago) link

because youre an idiot jerk

deeznuts, Friday, 29 June 2007 03:27 (sixteen years ago) link

So quick with the insults? I thought we were discussing music here in a civil manner. Or is that kind of thing beyond your obviously low intelligence level? If so, please leave the board. Thanks.

Bimble, Friday, 29 June 2007 03:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I think that was his response to the thread title

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 29 June 2007 03:43 (sixteen years ago) link

yes. bimble you linked me to that thorn of crowns vid on youtube & will never be an idiot jerk in my book.

deeznuts, Friday, 29 June 2007 03:52 (sixteen years ago) link

are the UK versions of their remasters dualdiscs or regular CDs? i hate dualdiscs.

f. hazel, Friday, 29 June 2007 05:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Regular discs.

Mark G, Friday, 29 June 2007 08:35 (sixteen years ago) link

"Something's Wrong" came up on my ipod this morning. I had completely forgotten how utterly (and paradoxically) majestic that album could sound.

baaderonixx, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link

The only way to fully appreciate Psychocandy is via a cassette-recorded copy made in the studio of a university radio station, using an inferior turntable and the station's well-worn-to-the-point-of-whiteness-paler-than-the-Reid brothers' complexions vinyl version. (I later bought an official actual cassette and it didn't measure up.)

Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 29 June 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Psychocandy is today's 'seminal album' being given away with The Times / WHSmith

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/commercial/article4867507.ece

koogs, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I only have this on napster-download-circa-2001 mp3 so I'll probably buy that.

jim, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 09:49 (fifteen years ago) link

It is supposed to sound that way. It's called "shoegazing". See also My Bloody Valentine, which is an even more typical example of the same.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link


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