i have no idea why
Disk space + data costs, I guess?
This all reminds me of some godawful BBC documentary recently when they played Steve Albini a Shellac record through an MP3 player for the first time (yeah, right) and he was ostentatiously wincing at how terrible and tinny it sounded. Except they were playing it on the cheapest shittiest white Apple earbuds, on which even the full studio master would sound terrible.
― Matt DC, Monday, 30 March 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
<<ok so there was 'more' info on a CD or a tape but we were playing them through shitty Sony 80s ghetto blasters and cheap walkmen headphones and car stereos and such, so how much of that 'info' were we actually hearing anyway?>>
^^^this
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 30 March 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
I don't think anyone has ever claimed cassette types are better quality than MP3 fwiw.
― Matt DC, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link
*Prays scik mouthy never finds this thread*
― 龜, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link
and most people have never given a toss about sound quality, ever. they heard the beatles on either transistor radios or portable record players with built-in speakers; prince and madonna on cassette tapes on walkmen with $19 headphones; beyonce and kanye west on laptop speakers or apple earbuds. this is one constant that goes back to the beginning of the time. convenience/accessibility matters to most people. sound quality does not.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, March 30, 2015 4:31 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark
I think with the rise of the mini-boom in audio heralded by Beats you have people caring about """sound quality""", I mean when even the lex is harping about not being able to find 320 kbps mp3s of songs he likes you gotta admit there's been at least some rising of the water level
― 龜, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link
I do live under a rock but this is the first I heard about Tidal (on Twitter):
Haxan Cloak ✔ @haxan_cloak This is so shameful. Thanks for not getting in touch and ripping me off, Tidal.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k265USTK9wo …Please retweet!
― djh, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link
mini-boom in audio heralded by Beats
huh? a service that hardly anyone has, and that even if you do have it designed to be played thru your iphone headphones? how is that a mini-boom in audio?
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
Audio equipment - did you hear of anybody paying $200 for headphones 10 years ago?
― 龜, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
News about that meeting leaked out a few weeks ago:http://www.showbiz411.com/2015/03/13/exclusive-jay-z-had-secret-pow-wow-with-music-superstars-including-beyonce-madonna-kanye-coldplay-to-start-renegade-streaming-service
― with HD lyrics (Eazy), Monday, 30 March 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
ha, sorry, i thought you were talking about the beats streaming service.
but even so, no -- i think people who pay $200 for beats headphones are buying marketing and logos, not sound quality. that's a fashion boom, not an audio boom.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
That Haxan Cloak hissy fit is hilarious imo.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
Eh, part of the sell is the 'audio quality'
― 龜, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
maaaannn this press conference is the height of hilarity
― are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Monday, 30 March 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link
Like, good enough for Dr. Dre to use in the studio! xxp
― 龜, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link
deadmaus has opposable thumbs. who knew?
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link
(xp) check out a few studios that aren't run by people who own beats, and see how many of them are using beats headphones.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
How come the Tidal press conference looks like a Scientology speech
http://i.imgur.com/hFKgy56.png
http://i.imgur.com/3K1Aayv.jpg
― 龜, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
― fact checking cuz, Monday, March 30, 2015 5:13 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
Lol why are you telling me this
― 龜, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link
because you're using beats-in-real-music-studios as a defense of the brand!
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link
xxp i mean some of those folks are scientologists right?
― are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Monday, 30 March 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link
I can't even believe that your reading comprehension is so poor
You've been on this board for a minute
Take a step back from the computer dude
xp
― 龜, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:17 (nine years ago) link
what am i not comprehending? feel free to let me know while i take a step back.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link
Is their catalog like Spotify or like Pono?
― with HD lyrics (Eazy), Monday, 30 March 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link
Rly weird how many celebrities're changing profile pics etc and going out of their way to promote this, guess it's an Illuminati thing
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Monday, 30 March 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
eh i imagine they have nothing to lose by taking a day and a chunk of money to throw their support -- no matter how big you are, if Jay-Z calls and asks you to do something, you probably at least think about it
― some dude, Monday, 30 March 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link
???
So, Tidal launches today. Creatively, what do you hope happens, beginning tomorrow?Artists come here and start making songs 18 minutes long, or whatever. I know this is going to sound crazy, but maybe they start attempting to make a “Like a Rolling Stone,” you know, a song that doesn’t have a recognizable hook, but is still considered one of the greatest songs of all time, the freedom that this platform will allow art to flourish here. And we’re encouraging people to put it in any format they like. It doesn't have to be three minutes and 30 seconds. What if it’s a minute and 17, what if it’s 11; you know, just break format. What if it’s just four minutes of just music and then you start rapping?
Artists come here and start making songs 18 minutes long, or whatever. I know this is going to sound crazy, but maybe they start attempting to make a “Like a Rolling Stone,” you know, a song that doesn’t have a recognizable hook, but is still considered one of the greatest songs of all time, the freedom that this platform will allow art to flourish here. And we’re encouraging people to put it in any format they like. It doesn't have to be three minutes and 30 seconds. What if it’s a minute and 17, what if it’s 11; you know, just break format. What if it’s just four minutes of just music and then you start rapping?
― with HD lyrics (Eazy), Monday, 30 March 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
like a rapping stone!
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 30 March 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
ILM might want to suspend the epics poll, what with all this major new epic content on the way.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 30 March 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link
It'll probably mostly be 4 minute songs with an extra 8 minutes of fake 2Pac interviews.
― MarkoP, Monday, 30 March 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
ZONG
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 30 March 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link
tiers! fucking love jay-z's illuminati fantasies
― rock (Jack White, Coldplay) (imago), Monday, 30 March 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
doesn’t have a recognizable hookhmm, it kinda borrows one of the most recognizable pop hooks of all time - la bamba!
― tylerw, Monday, 30 March 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link
the dumb things ppl say about "like a rolling stone" in a sad attempt to praise it just make me dislike it more
― dyl, Monday, 30 March 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link
^^sounds like someone needs to learn a little bit about the magical 1960s when the doors of perception were thrown open wide and we all bathed in the light of pure illumination
― tylerw, Monday, 30 March 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link
anyway! tidal. who cares. let's all listen to CDs.
this feels ridiculous in the same way as Pono
― ufo, Monday, 30 March 2015 22:32 (nine years ago) link
Until a second ago I figured this was a Fiona Apple thread. And then when I learned what it was I came here to make a Pono joke.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 March 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
i think that's the tidal model. for $19.95 a month, every time you click on a song, a well-paid employee at tidal headquarters immediately puts the corresponding cd into your own dedicated player and plays it back for you.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 30 March 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link
http://gawker.com/the-worlds-most-famous-musicians-just-hosted-a-bonkers-1694627052?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
Gawker mocking the millionaires
Imagine this: canceling your Spotify subscription, and paying $20 for a Tidal subscription instead. It's more expensive because it's "higher quality" and "artist-owned," which is important because Usher, Daft Punk, and Madonna have been living in wretched penury for far too long, and it's time for people to give back. The modern-day Our Gang (which counted among its members not only the aforementioned supernovas, but also Rihanna, Nicki Minaj, Kanye West, Chris Martin, and Jack White) held a "keynote" to promote Tidal, the already extant European streaming company Jay Z recently purchased for $56 million because he's bored.
...listen to Alicia Keys give an incoherent speech. At the conclusion of Keys' statement, which merged the rarely combined traits of being about an app and quoting Nietzsche, the artists all signed some sort of "declaration" one by one. I don't know what the document said—it was probably just a blank piece of paper, or perhaps an original copy of the Declaration of Independence that Deadmau5 received as a White Elephant gift.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 30 March 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link
madonna crawled on the table to sign it, I lol'd
― are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Monday, 30 March 2015 23:42 (nine years ago) link
despite this cavalcade of stars i just don't see tidal - or spotify - throwing the most money at exclusives, which is the only thing that will matter when all the streaming services are offering more or less the same thing. google or apple can outspend them many times over, on a sustained basis. like a war of attrition where your enemy has almost bottomless reserves.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 March 2015 23:43 (nine years ago) link
meanwhile i'll be over here shrugging at streaming services and buying CDs/mp3s (as long as I still can)
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 30 March 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link
So, does Tidal use WAV files?
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 March 2015 23:51 (nine years ago) link
this is not a likely winner
― Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 00:25 (nine years ago) link
Can you tidal ponos
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 00:58 (nine years ago) link
I dgaf abt previous pono jokes it's just so satisfying to type ponos
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 00:59 (nine years ago) link
http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1349734569l/16045037.jpg
― hunangarage, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 01:03 (nine years ago) link
This is so great I kept seeing this as headlines throughout the day and thought it was some kind of celebrity charity thing a la "Live Aid" but no. I thought it was to help some tidal wave disaster or something. Hahahah. These guys. Can't blame them for trying to make as much money as possible but still, it's just too obvious at this point...
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 01:04 (nine years ago) link
http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2015/03/30/tidal/
― with HD lyrics (Eazy), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 01:14 (nine years ago) link
i never took economics, is this what a cartel is
― j., Tuesday, 31 March 2015 01:51 (nine years ago) link
Anyone tried live sessions? Listening or streaming? I would love to hear other folks' sessions!
― Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Thursday, 27 April 2023 07:06 (one year ago) link
Loved Tidal until it started bugging out after never ever bugging out. Also it was downloading EVERY SONG I PLAYED (?!) Whether I wanted to or not.
Tried using offline, everything.
Phone was essentially telling me to delete the app it's fucked, but clearing the cache worked beautifully.
Just a heads up.
Also: "ban track" is really nice. Every service should have it. But why does not every track have this function?
― Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 01:22 (eleven months ago) link
I use it on my laptop and the only thing I don't like is the way it creates a playlist based on the album I just finished listening to, and spews random songs at me until I get irritated and search up a different album.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 01:28 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah their algorithms are pretty shit I guess they will continue to suck until they get more subscribers.
― Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 01:39 (eleven months ago) link
Surely you can turn that off… try Settings, Disable autoplay or something
― Day 1 fan (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 01:43 (eleven months ago) link
you can turn it off in exactly that way yes
tbh the ui doesn’t help
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 01:45 (eleven months ago) link
The UI is pretty willful. I've been trying for months to get it not to launch automatically when I turn on my laptop, but it's just gonna do whatever the fuck it wants.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 02:09 (eleven months ago) link
Were there ever any repercussions for the (former?) boss corruptly swiping other artists' streaming cash for himself and his wife? I'm guessing not.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 30 May 2023 10:10 (eleven months ago) link
Weirdly, I've found the "radio" playlists to be better than the ones I had with Spotify. Spotify felt like it was doing stuff tailored for me personally, which meant I was often getting the same tracks, while with Tidal I keep getting different stuff, but still generally pretty good. The general "Discovery" playlist isn't as good as Spotify's though.
― silverfish, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 17:42 (eleven months ago) link
Oh yeah a while ago I was looking at my phone storage and somehow Tidal was taking up more space than existed on my previous phone, I ended up deleting and reinstalling it.
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 19:15 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah, I'm staying with it because the sound quality is superior for the money, the royalty rate is better and there isn't all this podcast bullshit.
But I have had to uninstall a few times.
I have to remember how horrid Spotify was in its early years.
― Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Saturday, 3 June 2023 12:01 (eleven months ago) link
As for the quality of the radio...I just make all of my playlists on Spotify and then move them to Tidal.
Increasingly getting tips on joints from places like Mixcloud instead.
― Confessions of an Oatmeal Eater (I M Losted), Saturday, 3 June 2023 12:04 (eleven months ago) link
There’s a few things it needs to do then it’d be perfect. Search function is not great, no search by year, label etc. Doesn’t seem to be able to search others playlists, or even my own. Most annoyingly if you play an album I can’t add another album to play queue, only has a play next option.
Despite that going to stick with it for reasons IML gave.
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 3 June 2023 13:13 (eleven months ago) link
I like the videos option too, though is a bit spotty in coverage with huge gaps in some artists. Hi R.E.M.
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 3 June 2023 13:15 (eleven months ago) link
Desktop app, Mac OS. If I pause playback and don't come back to it within a few minutes, the app loses its place and playback goes back to the beginning of the track. BAD TIDAL. At least it doesn't go back to the beginning of the album I guess.
― that's when I reach for my copy of Revolver (WmC), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 15:32 (six months ago) link
just switched over from spotify. transferred over my playlists and realising that its japanese music selections are pretty limited. also every song title is romanised which I guess makes it easier for searching but is not great for people like me who have gotten used to recognising them by their japanese characters. not great for last.fm stats either.
but am gonna try to stick to it and hope it gets better. jpop took time to have a solid presence on spotify too in the beginning
― Roz, Monday, 22 January 2024 01:12 (three months ago) link
I found that, too - either the catalog is more limited or Spotify's massive playlist count just makes stuff easier to find.
― Enjoy Nuoc Mam With Mr. Qualk (I M Losted), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 20:18 (three months ago) link
nice:
https://www.techhive.com/article/2254350/tidal-combines-hifi-and-hifi-plus-plans.html
― Roz, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 02:09 (two months ago) link
I guess once that rolls out I'll give it a listen and see if I can tell the difference.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 02:20 (two months ago) link
Wow - I may ditch Amazon and get on a family plan with my wife’s Tidal account
― Hippie Ernie (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 March 2024 03:31 (two months ago) link
Nice little email to wake up to
― H.P, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 21:47 (two months ago) link
Less good news for DJs, the new surcharge for use with DJing software takes the price back up to the old Hifi-Plus tier.
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 6 March 2024 23:53 (two months ago) link
Can you save mixes if you use the Tidal DJ option?
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 7 March 2024 21:19 (two months ago) link
Anyone know why many albums show up duplicate or multiple times (in the exact same version, not different "editions" or anything like that)?
― rendered nugatory (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 17:02 (one week ago) link