rolling PEDs/steroids/placebos 2015 thread

stanozoLOL

Lana Berry ‏@Lana 10m10 minutes ago
just as a general rule of thumb probably don't put a substance in your body that ends with "lol"

Jay Jaffe on Stanozolol and the D.R.:

http://www.si.com/mlb/2015/04/11/jenrry-mejia-suspension-peds-stanozolol-supplier-mets

CJ Nitkowski, on the same theme

“This stuff papi, is the best!”

It was explained to me that he used this mixture 2-3 times during the season for a duration of 10-12 days at a time. It was an injection every other day for a little more than a week. It got him through the season feeling young and strong. Was I interested? Absolutely.

I had to know, “How much is it?”

“I paid $500.”

A little steep for my taste, but I was still curious.

“What’s in it?”

“I’m not really sure.”

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/new-york-mets-jenrry-mejia-drug-suspension-dominican-republic-culture-stanozolol-041215

Braves left-hander Andrew McKirahan has been suspended 80 games for using a performance-enhancing substance, the second drug suspension for an Atlanta rookie relief pitcher in less than three weeks.

http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/baseball/another-braves-reliever-slapped-with-80-game-ped-s/nkyL7/

Jeez. Well, at least he got a little work in yesterday.

i say the results of yesterday's game should be overturned!!

If Shelby Miller and Johnny Gomes get busted in the next few days, I won't fight it.

Braves minor leaguer Chris O'Dowd, son of former Rockies GM Dan, got an 80-game suspension

Free agent pitcher Jose Valverde has received an 80-game suspension without pay following a positive test for a metabolite of Stanozolol, a performance-enhancing substance. His suspension will become effective immediately upon his signing with another Major League organization.

so long papa grande

Major League Baseball and the National Football League will investigate allegations in an Al Jazeera documentary that employees at an Indianapolis-based anti-aging clinic supplied performance enhancing drugs to a host of professional athletes including legendary quarterback Peyton Manning and Washington Nationals first baseman Ryan Zimmerman.

...Charlie Sly, who the report refers to as a pharmacist who worked with the Indianapolis-based Guyer Institute of Molecular Medicine, makes claims to Collins in the documentary that he helped treat Manning during his recovery from a neck injury in 2011. Collins secretly recorded his conversations with Sly, using hidden cameras to film discussions in which Sly also implicated Zimmerman, Philadelphia Phillies first baseman Ryan Howard and NFL defensive stars Julius Peppers of the Green Bay Packers and James Harrison of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the use of performance enhancing drugs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2015/12/27/nfl-mlb-will-investigate-players-named-in-al-jazeera-report

ryan howard wtf

sly

"(I Got a Thing For) Charlie Sly's Woman" is my favorite Bobby Womack B-side.

With the help of my New York Times colleagues Ken Belson and Doris Burke, I scrutinized the list of names, and it soon appeared less random than at first blush. Nearly all of the athletes he named are clients of Jason Riley, a fitness trainer based in Sarasota, Fla. . . .

His most famous client, the man whose career he was credited with reshaping and saving from mortality’s shadow, was Derek Jeter. In 2010, a few years into Riley’s makeover, The Daily News proclaimed: “Derek is turning back the clock at short.” ESPN declared Riley “dumped the Captain into a hot tub time machine” and turned him into a 25-year-old.

Significant caveats are in order here: No evidence has emerged linking Jeter to performance-enhancing drugs, and Sly did not connect him to banned substances, although he boasted of helping other athletes obtain them. And a connection to Sly, Riley or anyone else is hardly proof of any wrongdoing.

one wonders what will blogger murray chass make of these revelations

Keith Law's tweet re Howard suit: "Al Jazeera just hired a left-handed lawyer."

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14511191/ryan-zimmerman-ryan-howard-file-defamation-suits-vs-al-jazeera

Ha, I know someone who just had to undergo shoulder surgery and was taking HGH to help recover. We're like what? How did? And he said, oh, Florida, man, there's all kinds of people down there who will sell you the stuff for recovery or whatever.

and for the record

The Office of the Commissioner of Baseball announced today that New York Mets right-handed pitcher Jenrry Mejia has received a permanent suspension from Major League and Minor League Baseball after testing positive for Boldenone, his third performance-enhancing substance violation under Major League Baseball’s Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program.

lollllllllllllllllllllll

gonna really miss those 7 innings they got from him last year

saved the wilpons almost $2.5m this year!

James has often remarked that there are already two or three PED users in the Hall of Fame, without ever getting very specific. The implication in a "Hey Bill" today seems clear enough:

I just checked Nolan Ryan's stats. His two best K/9 ratios were when he was 40 and 42 years old. How do you explain something like that?
Asked by: manhattanhi
Answered: 3/9/2016
Well...two explanations. One is, strikeout rates were probably going up throughout most of his career, so the base was higher. And second, I can't tell you, but ask ANYBODY who batted against him in that era; he'll know.

chris colabello, 80 games

worth it, imo

Dee Gordon, 80 games

well he did double his HR total from 2014 to 2015

Dee got swole.

@PeteAbe
If MLBPA is serious about cleaning up the game, positive tests should result in teams having the option to terminate contracts

stfu

yeah, Craig Edwards of FG explained, it would be just too easy for a player to void his own contract and become a free agent. on top of other issues.

@cmccosky
Verlander said he advocates more testing and harsher penalties for those who test positive. "That's the consensus among the players."

It is, huh?

Dee's suspension blew my mind. Maybe the extra beef helped him get balls past infielders on his grounders.

He weighed like 150lbs when he came up..

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/miami-marlins/jvak3g/picture62071992/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/141Marlins24%20SPT%20PPP
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a9/43/30/a94330a3279a814cc7dc5efe16b27a29.jpg

smh

50 games for raul mondesi jr., the royals' top prospect

supposedly reduced from 80 after mondesi showed that the banned substance (clenbuterol) was in his cold medicine

by rule, he is barred from the 2016 MLB playoffs /edhochuli

marlon byrd, 162 games

https://twitter.com/ithrow88/status/738080567258796032

@joe_sheehan
If the home-run rate on contact can be 4% with zero drug tests (~99-01), and 4% with 22,000 drug tests, maybe it was never about the drugs?

Or perhaps the cheaters are adjusting to the drug tests? Like in every other sport in the world.

I still say the ball was juiced

did someone say something? xp

I know even less about baseball than I do politics, but why would that sport be different than any other sport in the world?

bcz we don't see any hard evidence that drugs make you better at baseball

i can't top your first ten words, however

:)

I can't think of a sport where drugs don't help, though.

all drugs, by all takers? that is an absurd supposition, but entirely in keeping with your rigorous analysis of everything.

even if they don't increase your ability to sock dingers they do help keep injuries at bay

as always thank god the NFL is drugfree

http://www.denverbroncos.com/assets/images/imported/DEN/photos/centerpiece/homepage/2015/09-September/150923_manning_CP.jpg

I'd be amazed if the NFL, the NBA, the NHL, is drug free. Also, real football. Weren't there rumblings that the Spanish doping doctors connected to cycling stars were also doing a lot for football players, at Spanish clubs in particular? Can't see why baseball should be uniquely good or bad. Perhaps it's just that steroids impact the body in really obvious ways?

'real football'

We are not arguing if the Major Leagues are drug-free or aren't, we know it is, cause unlike other pro. sports baseball is ahead of the curve by not ignoring the issue altogether. What we are discussing is if the performance enhancing drugs have that much of an effect on a player's career, the answer would be more complicated than you suggest Fred, because that's how life works.

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/09/29/jesus-montero-suspended-50-games-for-use-of-a-stimulant/