tipping

this is why its abhorrent, same w ppl who take pride in paying for everything & conspicuous charity

I'm guessing you've never worked a job where you hope people tip you

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Nice

seems patronising to assume an ethical position is beyond someone w a certain work history but I guess thats par for the course w you tippers

it's abhorrent because it feels good

right that's what makes it so insidious, at least w bribery no one is blinding themselves w romantic notions about individual endeavour or altruism

vee must totally destroy all notions of romantic individual endeavour or altruism!

buybacks i feel like most often occur when youve been sitting at the bar for hours getting shithoused on a not that busy night, or at a place where ur a regular

i guess some places are more formulaic about it

or if u know the bartender u just tip them a lot and they charge u almost nothing which seems m/l like a crime

i have never tried tipping the bartender $10 that seems more just like paying for yr drinks in advance

yeah I prefer to just tip a dollar or two and enjoy normal guy status

Getting a haircut in America is a terrifying experience, sitting there so panicked about having to pay some spurious undefined bonus on top of the actual price

And then you're paying someone else at the front and don't know if you should say "...and this is for a tip?" after they give you your change, or go back across the floor to tuck a handful of money into the barber's apron

And if you shouldn't tip if the haircut isn't as good as the last one you got, somewhere else? You're never going to be there again anyway so

Basically way too stressful to even focus on communicating how you want your hair done

wait, u pay for haircuts?

should you tip your airbnb hosts?

― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 9 April 2015 09:25 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was a srs q btw

Tipping barbers? Crazy USA.

Have always tipped my barber in England/Scotland!

Never heard of it tbh.

Haven't been to a barber in 10 years though, so maybe I've just forgotten the etiquette.

Tipping hairdressers and barbers: at least enough for them to buy the drink they'll richly deserve after the unpaid emotional labour of asking customers about their holidays, etc.

These days I'm mostly tipping them for finding some hair to cut

I would tip them not to ask me about my holidays etc. I think that's what Enoch Powell used to do.

he gets a bad rap but enoch had the right idea about barbers

I get around the emotional labour bollocks by going to friends, where it's obvs good to talk. One of my friends cuts my hair now, and I find that the round-up from £54 to £60 dovetails nicely with any tipping intention (10 per cent is normal for hairdressers, who are mostly self-employed and hire stations in a salon workplace).

right that's what makes it so insidious, at least w bribery no one is blinding themselves w romantic notions about individual endeavour or altruism

― ogmor, Friday, April 10, 2015 3:46 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think it would be funny if you said this every time as you left a restaurant stiffing the server. "Just so you know, it's nothing personal, it's a stance - not blinding myself w/ romantic notions, etc. Ethics in dining, etc...."

lol do u tip video game journalists as well

Have always tipped my barber in England/Scotland!

― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 10 April 2015 10:11 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Never heard of it tbh.

― Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Friday, 10 April 2015 10:16 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

standard £2 tip for a standard guy haircut imo

I was in the barber's at Christmas and a junkie & his dealer fell in through the door fighting and threatening to kill each other over a debt. They scared the shit out of my daughter who was waiting on me and I ended up (with half a haircut and an apron/collar thing around my neck) manhandling one of them out the door while the barbers stood and watched.

I still left an extra £2.

^ tipping practices i can get behind

For real. Great story, onimo.

i tip and bribe according to cultural norms, h8 the patronage not the player is the only way

Barber charges $9. I give him $11. He whines that I only come by every three months instead of every week like the retirees.

One of the tricky bits about tipping protocol is if you are getting something free or less, you should try to tip as though it were full price. My head cannot always math that, but I try.

My employer frequently gives out gift cards for the Palm restaurant, and they can be awkward to use. They're supposed to work only for the food and booze, not the tax or tip. One time I had a $51-ish bar tab and a $50 gift card. I didn't have any cash with me for tipping purposes (I'd been expecting a credit card slip for the overage and the taxes, to which I could then add a tip that reflected the real amount). The bartender just accepted it and said, "Yeah, we're good." It was too much trouble to reopen, and I felt bad - made a concerted effort to go back another time and tip generously to make up for it.

An $11 dollar tip? Oh, right! (xp)

i tip and bribe according to cultural norms, h8 the patronage not the player is the only way

Do your thing, of course, but maybe try to let yourself feel good about it sometime. You can make someone who has been slaving away for a bunch of assholes for 12 hours' day that way. I had my day made that way a few times. Feels good. Feels good to feel good. etc.

you are always one of the assholes they are slaving away for, it is the very nature of the deal. i believe it was tom baker on the very profound mansun album six who observed that pats on the back are what pushes you down

i don't tip my actual slaves tho

Sure, there are a range of assholes when you're a server. There are the assholes who have been where you are before, and in a show of kindness and understanding and thanks throw down a little extra when they can afford to. Then there are the assholes who have a stance - Mr. Pink in Reservoir Dogs, my libertarian freshman year roommate - those are the ones that make your day shittier

its funny ppl imagining some socialist utopia and then being all tipping is bad well yeah everything is bad compared to imaginary socialist utopia

then ppl want to replace tipping servers with a living wage which wld def end up being less than what they make from tips now

eh no ppl could still tip if servers received a living wage as basic

I mean, if I thought servers weren't getting paid a living wage and relied on tips just to make basic, they wouldn't get tips from me because I wouldn't be in that restaurant or whatever in the first place

ok m8

not sure you need the vantage provided by living in imaginary socialist utopia to see that the american faith that every individual's good&honest hustle will be appropriately rewarded w fortune is in most cases delusory

should you tip your airbnb hosts?
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 9 April 2015 09:25 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was a srs q btw

― bizarro gazzara, Friday, April 10, 2015 5:06 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i only stayed in an airbnb once, it felt like itd be weird to tip because it was a nice group of 2 couples living in a house in rural VT who let us use their 2ndary house... thing... they had on their property. had a real "staying with pals" feel even tho we didn't see them that much. we ended up leaving them a gift instead (iirc, six pack of beer and some nice cheese... and yes it was wrapped, this wasn't a leave-our-leftovers situation) with a nice note thanking them.

imo if they seem like normal ppl, treat it like u stayed w/ a pal & leave a gift, if it feels like a hotel (impersonal etc.) fuckem

unless they're like... doing maid service or w/e, in which case... tip the "maid" part?

Tipping the host never occurred to me when I Airbnb'ed in Chicago.

seems unnecessary

it is,it always is

ty for yr input - i am but a humble scotchman set to visit californian airbnbs in a couple of months and your arcane american tipping practices confuse and frighten me