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should you tip your airbnb hosts?

― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 9 April 2015 09:25 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was a srs q btw

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 10 April 2015 09:06 (nine years ago) link

Tipping barbers? Crazy USA.

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Friday, 10 April 2015 09:09 (nine years ago) link

Have always tipped my barber in England/Scotland!

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 10 April 2015 09:11 (nine years ago) link

Never heard of it tbh.

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Friday, 10 April 2015 09:16 (nine years ago) link

Haven't been to a barber in 10 years though, so maybe I've just forgotten the etiquette.

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Friday, 10 April 2015 09:18 (nine years ago) link

Tipping hairdressers and barbers: at least enough for them to buy the drink they'll richly deserve after the unpaid emotional labour of asking customers about their holidays, etc.

camp event (suzy), Friday, 10 April 2015 09:20 (nine years ago) link

These days I'm mostly tipping them for finding some hair to cut

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 10 April 2015 09:21 (nine years ago) link

I would tip them not to ask me about my holidays etc. I think that's what Enoch Powell used to do.

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Friday, 10 April 2015 09:27 (nine years ago) link

he gets a bad rap but enoch had the right idea about barbers

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 10 April 2015 09:30 (nine years ago) link

I get around the emotional labour bollocks by going to friends, where it's obvs good to talk. One of my friends cuts my hair now, and I find that the round-up from £54 to £60 dovetails nicely with any tipping intention (10 per cent is normal for hairdressers, who are mostly self-employed and hire stations in a salon workplace).

camp event (suzy), Friday, 10 April 2015 09:34 (nine years ago) link

right that's what makes it so insidious, at least w bribery no one is blinding themselves w romantic notions about individual endeavour or altruism

― ogmor, Friday, April 10, 2015 3:46 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think it would be funny if you said this every time as you left a restaurant stiffing the server. "Just so you know, it's nothing personal, it's a stance - not blinding myself w/ romantic notions, etc. Ethics in dining, etc...."

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Friday, 10 April 2015 10:25 (nine years ago) link

lol do u tip video game journalists as well

Have always tipped my barber in England/Scotland!

― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 10 April 2015 10:11 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Never heard of it tbh.

― Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Friday, 10 April 2015 10:16 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

standard £2 tip for a standard guy haircut imo

not content (onimo), Friday, 10 April 2015 11:02 (nine years ago) link

I was in the barber's at Christmas and a junkie & his dealer fell in through the door fighting and threatening to kill each other over a debt. They scared the shit out of my daughter who was waiting on me and I ended up (with half a haircut and an apron/collar thing around my neck) manhandling one of them out the door while the barbers stood and watched.

I still left an extra £2.

not content (onimo), Friday, 10 April 2015 11:07 (nine years ago) link

^ tipping practices i can get behind

For real. Great story, onimo.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 10 April 2015 12:29 (nine years ago) link

i tip and bribe according to cultural norms, h8 the patronage not the player is the only way

ogmor, Friday, 10 April 2015 13:15 (nine years ago) link

Barber charges $9. I give him $11. He whines that I only come by every three months instead of every week like the retirees.

pplains, Friday, 10 April 2015 13:46 (nine years ago) link

One of the tricky bits about tipping protocol is if you are getting something free or less, you should try to tip as though it were full price. My head cannot always math that, but I try.

My employer frequently gives out gift cards for the Palm restaurant, and they can be awkward to use. They're supposed to work only for the food and booze, not the tax or tip. One time I had a $51-ish bar tab and a $50 gift card. I didn't have any cash with me for tipping purposes (I'd been expecting a credit card slip for the overage and the taxes, to which I could then add a tip that reflected the real amount). The bartender just accepted it and said, "Yeah, we're good." It was too much trouble to reopen, and I felt bad - made a concerted effort to go back another time and tip generously to make up for it.

Ye Mad Puffin, Friday, 10 April 2015 13:49 (nine years ago) link

An $11 dollar tip? Oh, right! (xp)

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Friday, 10 April 2015 13:50 (nine years ago) link

i tip and bribe according to cultural norms, h8 the patronage not the player is the only way

Do your thing, of course, but maybe try to let yourself feel good about it sometime. You can make someone who has been slaving away for a bunch of assholes for 12 hours' day that way. I had my day made that way a few times. Feels good. Feels good to feel good. etc.

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Friday, 10 April 2015 13:53 (nine years ago) link

you are always one of the assholes they are slaving away for, it is the very nature of the deal. i believe it was tom baker on the very profound mansun album six who observed that pats on the back are what pushes you down

ogmor, Friday, 10 April 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link

i don't tip my actual slaves tho

Sure, there are a range of assholes when you're a server. There are the assholes who have been where you are before, and in a show of kindness and understanding and thanks throw down a little extra when they can afford to. Then there are the assholes who have a stance - Mr. Pink in Reservoir Dogs, my libertarian freshman year roommate - those are the ones that make your day shittier

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Friday, 10 April 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link

its funny ppl imagining some socialist utopia and then being all tipping is bad well yeah everything is bad compared to imaginary socialist utopia

lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 14:34 (nine years ago) link

then ppl want to replace tipping servers with a living wage which wld def end up being less than what they make from tips now

lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 14:35 (nine years ago) link

eh no ppl could still tip if servers received a living wage as basic

I mean, if I thought servers weren't getting paid a living wage and relied on tips just to make basic, they wouldn't get tips from me because I wouldn't be in that restaurant or whatever in the first place

ok m8

lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 14:40 (nine years ago) link

not sure you need the vantage provided by living in imaginary socialist utopia to see that the american faith that every individual's good&honest hustle will be appropriately rewarded w fortune is in most cases delusory

ogmor, Friday, 10 April 2015 15:37 (nine years ago) link

should you tip your airbnb hosts?
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 9 April 2015 09:25 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was a srs q btw

― bizarro gazzara, Friday, April 10, 2015 5:06 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i only stayed in an airbnb once, it felt like itd be weird to tip because it was a nice group of 2 couples living in a house in rural VT who let us use their 2ndary house... thing... they had on their property. had a real "staying with pals" feel even tho we didn't see them that much. we ended up leaving them a gift instead (iirc, six pack of beer and some nice cheese... and yes it was wrapped, this wasn't a leave-our-leftovers situation) with a nice note thanking them.

imo if they seem like normal ppl, treat it like u stayed w/ a pal & leave a gift, if it feels like a hotel (impersonal etc.) fuckem

GGGOAT: greatest goat game of all time (Will M.), Friday, 10 April 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link

unless they're like... doing maid service or w/e, in which case... tip the "maid" part?

GGGOAT: greatest goat game of all time (Will M.), Friday, 10 April 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link

Tipping the host never occurred to me when I Airbnb'ed in Chicago.

WilliamC, Friday, 10 April 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link

seems unnecessary

it is,it always is

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Friday, 10 April 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link

ty for yr input - i am but a humble scotchman set to visit californian airbnbs in a couple of months and your arcane american tipping practices confuse and frighten me

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 10 April 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link

i only learned recently that i have been overtipping a) delivery, going 15-20 and b) service staff, tipping 18-20 on the bill + tax (tax is 15% here) so yay more money for me i guess!

GGGOAT: greatest goat game of all time (Will M.), Friday, 10 April 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link

15-20%/18-20%, not $15-20/$18-20

GGGOAT: greatest goat game of all time (Will M.), Friday, 10 April 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link

one of the best things abt tipping is how it makes visitors incredibly nervous

lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link

or at least the british which i guess speaks well of them as most continental euros seem content to just shrug and throw like 65 cents on the table

lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link

weird tipping masochism

conrad, Friday, 10 April 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link

i speak loudly in a british accent so ppl know not to take it personally when i don't tip. i pay 20% less than the bill in case it was already added in.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 10 April 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link

youve only been here like ten years so its understandable

lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 17:33 (nine years ago) link

tipping is short for toodle-pipping iirc an old british custom of grinding the underclass to dust

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Friday, 10 April 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link

i've never bribed anyone before, i imagine it's quite thrilling

brimstead, Friday, 10 April 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link

i'm British and living in the states and the tip when collecting take-out is the one that confuses me most. how am I to know what proportion of a pizza clerk's wage is tip-based? is there a 20% or nothing rule? i feel like a single dollar will only ever be seen as a diss.

+ +, Friday, 10 April 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link

a dollar is fine u dont really have to tip on takeout imo but its nice if theres a jar there u know

lag∞n, Friday, 10 April 2015 23:44 (nine years ago) link

I'm sad when I see "Please don't tip our employees" signs at groceries stores and retail outlets it sort of seems like the company is admitting it doesn't pay its employees enough, and that fact is apparent enough to impress itself naturally to paying customers, who should repress their reflex to care for their servants. It comes across real petty and anti-human, like something an insurance adjuster would recommend.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 11 April 2015 00:09 (nine years ago) link

Starbucks locations inside grocery stores/bookstores often don't even have tip jars per company policy which is pretty wrong imo

rip van wanko, Saturday, 11 April 2015 00:21 (nine years ago) link

Starbucks employees don't make $2.15 an hour. Just because it's coffee and not a cheeseburger doesn't mean you're entitled to a tip jar.

pplains, Saturday, 11 April 2015 02:31 (nine years ago) link


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