HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

And by grilling, I mean grilling.

I think the problem with the unsullied & harpies fight was the set. It was supposed to be a narrow alley but the set was obviously not that narrow.

the hypothesis of some (incl. jason concepcion/netw3rk in a recent article) is that a fair amount of the unsullied are fighting pit dudes who are out of work. bc I higly doubt they're just masked rich people

like the unsullied, fighting pit slaves are trained all their lives to be what they are. and not to fight in an orderly elite fashion but to be vicious/relentless

We're all overthinking it a bit. In my opinion it is poor editing and/or choreography.

Goals:
-Portray the unsullied being overwhelmed and defeated: check.
-Show Grey Worm fighting competently as he is a main character: check.

They likely weren't thinking of any character dynamics beyond that. They achieved what they thought the scene was meant to convey.

Kind of like how "plot armor" protects characters in unlikely situations, this is the opposite. They overemphasized the fact that the unsullied get killed in the scene for the purpose of the plot and failed to better represent their character attributes as bad ass fighters.

it wldve been cooler if when she ran into the kennel masters daughter sansa was just all "oh hey miranda"

Pretty good episode. No idea where these threads are going now.

Did the message to Sansa to light a candle come from Brienne, or from other Stark supporters? Or was it another boring Ramsay trick?

Other Stark supporters or boring Ramsay trick ~we don't know~

the sequence of the episode implied it was the message from brienne.

it was probably Bran remote warging some peasants

Makes sense- old people are more likely to fall for those scams. Bran calls and gets them to download TeamViewer and that's that.

this ep - aside from its lack of cersei - was as good as last week, arguably better in some respects imo

the valyria stuff was great

stannis is so interesting to me. he seems like a total prick but he has this well of kindness in him, i am enjoying the scenes with him more and more

Agreed, Stannis has come to be one of the most interesting characters on the show IMO.

Thinking Stannis might die soon, given they made a point to show Davos cautioning him to wait until Jon provides reinforcement, combined with the scene establishing Roose and Ramsay's confidence and expectation of Stannis's attack, and lastly the vibe in that scene with Jon watching Stannis ride away with his army seemed purposefully mournful and heavy.

nah i hope that roose & ramsay get creamed

which means he's as good as dead, imho.

xpost lol!

wld make sense theyre preparing to kill him considering his recent turn towards sympathy

u guys are buzzkills :(

sry its too easy everyone wants the boltons to go down its not gonna happen

honestly think jaime has less chance at survival but who knows

house of lannister def teetering at the brink

My wife was saying Stannis' character was more than just a buzzkill stoic in the books than he's been presented thus far and this season is trying to change that perception a bit.

he has a more subtle mind than the rest of these yahoos tell u that much

house of lannister def teetering at the brink

In terms of the game of thrones, yes. In terms of the larger story, I doubt it. Cersei, Jaime, and the Imp aren't done anytime soon, I'd reckon. Cersei's Frankenmountain isn't even running yet.

nah i hope that roose & ramsay get creamed

They will. They're regional meanies at best and they will suffer and it will be enjoyable, but their suffering will come at some horrifying monkey's paw-like cost a la Joffrey imo

feel like cersei is way over playing her hand, alienating potential allies, setting herself up for a fall, if she and her son-king go down its over for the house they have no money, jamie and tyrion are out in the wilderness

comes back to how tywin was saying shes not as smart as she thinks and is too impulsive

stannis seems like a good guy who's been hardened by rough shit, hence the odd relation to jon snow where he seems to respect and admire him for the same qualities that he thinks make him a foolhardy chump.

ramsay is the worst, i don't think i'll be able to see that actor in anything else without immediately thinking of him as an utter douchebag.

how about as an indie folksinger (which he is)

I thought this was going to be a real cost-cutting episode - apart from one brief bit of cg dragon, it was just lots of gloomy interiors. Then came the scene on the boat.

"Long sullen silences and the occasional punch in the face."

xp jesus what a douchebag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv_nBEgwCaw

yet another diabolic torture method

lol

feel like cersei is way over playing her hand, alienating potential allies, setting herself up for a fall, if she and her son-king go down its over for the house they have no money, jamie and tyrion are out in the wilderness

I think she's playing her (currently poor) hand very well. She's allied herself with the a malevolent religious army, will eventually be protected by a great warrior monster, and has a bitchin castle built on top of a gold mine.

if her castle is on top of a gold mine, why are they borrowing so much money from their allies and Braavos?

the gold mine is empty yo! and shes got on her side is some unstable otherwise powerless religious extremists, those scheming ass tyrells gonna eat her for lunch

^^^ lagoon jumps straight to the point

thrones arguing better than most currently prominent fictional works why aligning yourself closely with any religion generally leads to things not being a good time

like instead of building alliances amongst the small council she just sent them all away, shes hella arrogant, noones gonna stand with her

Is the gold mine really empty? I thought it was just almost empty.

if her castle is on top of a gold mine, why are they borrowing so much money from their allies and Braavos?

The crown's debt is the Tyrells' problem now imo.

iirc its empty tywin told cersei last season

it's empty and has been for some time, which may have been tywin's only weakness (aside from not understanding that his dwarf son was his only decent thing) - he was always scrambling to make alliances and keep the lannister financial instability hidden

I guess my point is that when winter comes having a bunch of cash won't matter that much.

yup youd rather have food like the tyrells

having stuff is only important if you have the ability to defend it.

secretly hoping that cersei ends up getting hers stark style, i.e. immediately after watching what she assumes is her last living child get murdered by somebody insignificant like frey

that would be p sweet

sounds abt right

i love cersei and hope she stays with us forever but it doesnt look good for her