― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Neither do I particularly - but actually there is just one additional track on the 'album' disc of 3IB isn't there? What's that all about?
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
Hmmmm. They haven't given / found a title* to that little bit of echoing footsteps and the demonic laugh at the end of the album, have they?
[* not that they gave a title to any of the tracks on the version of the album I've got!]
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 2 December 2004 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link
It's on my vinyl copy of BDC, which I notice is French. Was it not on the UK issue of BDC. (I know that's not why you're pissed off, but I was just wondering).
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 2 December 2004 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link
8. Boys Don't Cry (Chestnut Studio Demo 5/78)9. It's Not You (Chestnut Studio Demo 5/78)10. 10:15 Saturday Night (Chestnut Studio Demo 5/78)11. Fire In Cairo (Chestnut Studio Demo 5/78)
alone. The Chestnut tapes are much harder and more energetic than what ended up on TIB, the best document of Smith's admittedly naive teen angst. TIB is just so sonically deflated; it's a "charming" and fairly unique sound, and it works in places ("Cairo", "TIB" and especially "Accuracy"), but the early stuff is compositionally really patchy (every time I look at the tracklist for TIB I see fewer and fewer gems).
Chris Parry had referred to "Jumping Someone Else's Train" as a swan song for Dempsey at one point; it works as a condensed example of what the Cure accomplished in the "trad" sphere, before Gallup joined and Smith started expressing himself.
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 2 December 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 2 December 2004 22:34 (nineteen years ago) link
There wasn't a UK issue of BDC was there? BDC was the US (& elsewhere?) version of 3IB.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 2 December 2004 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link
What a dillema!
I feel the need to catch-up, but the wait seems excruciating.
Will he also re-release Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me?...That, and the 3IB re-release are next on my list.
― Star Cauliflower (Star Cauliflower), Thursday, 13 January 2005 05:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 05:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Star Cauliflower (Star Cauliflower), Thursday, 13 January 2005 05:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 05:39 (nineteen years ago) link
I wish I'd have seen this when you posted it, Ned. I totally could have ruined the surprise for you. Sadly, I seem to have well over half of the rare shit they've stuck on the reissues so far.
I notice that Bob was prudent enough to leave off 'See The Children', thank god.
See now putting that on it would have kicked ass! I'd love to own that song on CD.
Will he also re-release Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me?
I suppose it's kind of a no-brainer so I'm assuming it will be the case, but I'm really looking forward to "Hey You" on CD. It's one of my favorite songs on that record which I don't even listen to all that often because I'm too lazy to break out the vinyl for stuff I also own on CD.
― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 13 January 2005 08:55 (nineteen years ago) link
A (slightly) extended version of "Hey You!!!" is on Join The Dots CD2.
Ned, d'you know where "The Weedy Burton" got its name from?
I took great pleasure in playing "How Beautiful You Are" very loudly last night for the first time in years, and was shamefully proud of the fact that I seemed to know every last word. If only I could remember, y'know, important stuff...
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 13 January 2005 09:36 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm looking forward to 17 Seconds. Anyone know when this will be? I really have no idea what outtakes there are from this era, although at the time I heard some VERY different versions of the songs with different lyrics on a bootleg that was relatively easy to get in the early 80s. Can't recall the name.
This early Cure action led me to play a selection of the later albums from KMKMKM onwards at the weekend. Hmmm - what a rubbish band they became! How can anyone stand stuff like Fascination Street. Soooo boring.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 13 January 2005 10:46 (nineteen years ago) link
oh shiiiiiiiiit! INCOMING! (it's a Nedbomb...)
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 13 January 2005 10:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 13 January 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 13 January 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― mzui (mzui), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Star Cauliflower (Star Cauliflower), Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link
The same deep water as you > Plainsong > Pictures of you > Lovesong > Disintegration > Untitled > Fascination street > Last dance > Lullaby > Prayers for rain > Homesick > Closedown
― Stevie Blunder, Thursday, 13 January 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link
PlainsongThe Same Deep Water As YouPictures Of YouDisintegrationLovesongLullabyFascination StreetUntitledLast DanceHomesickClosedownPrayer For Rain
― Sansai, Thursday, 13 January 2005 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh no, I love it! It's just not the best song on the album. :-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 13 January 2005 23:06 (nineteen years ago) link
Noooooooooooooo!!! "So What" is genius!
"Meat Hook," fine. I'm with you there.
― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 13 January 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link
See also this which is related though not completely serious.
― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 13 January 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Star Cauliflower (Star Cauliflower), Friday, 14 January 2005 06:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 January 2005 06:14 (nineteen years ago) link
TRACK DETAILSOF THE NEXT ROUND OF RE-MASTERED RE-RELEASES - OUT IN APRIL...
THE CURESEVENTEEN SECONDS2 CD SETCOMPILED BY ROBERT SMITH
Digitally Remastered from theOriginal Master Tapes
Features 15 tracks on CD for the very first time
Deluxe package contains a 20 page bookletincluding sleevenotes and lyricswith rare and previously unseen photographs
SEVENTEEN SECONDS: THE ORIGINAL ALBUM
01. A REFLECTION02. PLAY FOR TODAY03. SECRETS04. IN YOUR HOUSE05. THREE06. THE FINAL SOUND07. A FOREST08. M09. AT NIGHT10. SEVENTEEN SECONDS
SEVENTEEN SECONDS: RARITIES 1979-1980
01. I'M A CULT HERO (vinyl single by CULT HERO)02. I DIG YOU (vinyl single by CULT HERO)03. ANOTHER JOURNEY BY TRAIN (home demo)04. SECRETS (home demo)05. SEVENTEEN SECONDS (live)06. IN YOUR HOUSE (live)07. THREE (alt studio mix)08. I DIG YOU (CULT HERO live)09. I'M A CULT HERO (CULT HERO live)10. M (live)11. THE FINAL SOUND (live)12. A REFLECTION (live)13. PLAY FOR TODAY (live)14. AT NIGHT (live)15. A FOREST (live)
*****
THE CUREFAITH2 CD SETCOMPILED BY ROBERT SMITH
Features 4 previously unreleased songsand 15 tracks on CD for the very first time
FAITH: THE ORIGINAL ALBUM
01. THE HOLY HOUR02. PRIMARY03. OTHER VOICES04. ALL CATS ARE GREY05. THE FUNERAL PARTY06. DOUBT07. THE DROWNING MAN08. FAITH
09. CARNAGE VISORS
FAITH: RARITIES 1980-1981
01. FAITH (RS home demo)02. DOUBT (RS home demo)03. DROWNING (group home demo)04. THE HOLY HOUR (group home demo)05. PRIMARY (studio out-take)06. GOING HOME TIME (studio out-take)07.THE VIOLIN SONG (studio out-take)08. A NORMAL STORY (studio out-take)09. ALL CATS ARE GREY (live)10. THE FUNERAL PARTY (live)11. OTHER VOICES (live)12. THE DROWNING MAN (live)13. FAITH (live)14. FOREVER (live)15. CHARLOTTE SOMETIMES (single)
THE CUREPORNOGRAPHY2 CD SETCOMPILED BY ROBERT SMITH
Features 5 previously unreleased songsand 14 tracks on CD for the very first time
Deluxe package contains a 20 page booklet includingsleevenotes with rare and previously unseen photographs
PORNOGRAPHY: THE ORIGINAL ALBUM
01. ONE HUNDRED YEARS02. A SHORT TERM EFFECT03. THE HANGING GARDEN04. SIAMESE TWINS05. THE FIGUREHEAD06. A STRANGE DAY07. COLD08. PORNOGRAPHY
PORNOGRAPHY: RARITIES 1981-1982
01. BREAK (group home demo)02. DEMISE (studio demo)03.TEMPTATION (studio demo)04. THE FIGUREHEAD (studio demo)05. THE HANGING GARDEN (studio demo)06. ONE HUNDRED YEARS (studio demo)07. AIRLOCK: THE SOUNDTRACK08. COLD (live)09. A STRANGE DAY (live)10. PORNOGRAPHY (live)11. ALL MINE (live)12. A SHORT TERM EFFECT (live)13. SIAMESE TWINS (live)14. TEMPTATION TWO (aka lgtb) (RS studio demo)
― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Thursday, 27 January 2005 09:06 (nineteen years ago) link
I wasn't sure what they'd do with these three, whether they might come out as a box on their own, but they all look pretty essential.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 27 January 2005 11:01 (nineteen years ago) link
(A more serious question -- hm, no Carnage Visors, then.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link
It was the first thing I looked for too, Bizarro Ned.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― flowersdie (flowersdie), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link
Because you end up with things like that dirgey "10:15 Saturday Night".
April has never been further away.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link
What Dan said. The various Cure demos I've heard via bootleg or mp3 over the years are really something, whether home or not, while that never heard before "10:15" was just wondrous. Demos for The Top and The Head on the Door = yow!
Hmm, I was hoping for more studio out takes rather than live stuff.
But I can't wait for that! Certainly I've collected enough live shows from that time by now but they were *so freakin' good* at that time -- not that they weren't later either, but my goodness were they on fire.
Yes indeed.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― flowersdie (flowersdie), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― it's tricky (disco stu), Thursday, 27 January 2005 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link