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I do not approve.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

but they're playing at the Royal Festival Hall in a month!

― Le Baaderonixx de Clignancourt (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes yes, that is nice and all I agree.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Finally:

5th June
- The Glove "Blue Sunshine" [Deluxe Edition]

3rd July
- The Cure "The Top" [Deluxe Edition]
- The Cure "The Head On The Door" [Deluxe Edition]
- The Cure "Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me" [Deluxe Edition] "

― Le Baaderonixx de Clignancourt (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 08:52 (eighteen years ago) link

This had made my day and of course ILM is the first to let me know. I think The Top might be a classic but hasn't really reveled itself as of yet.

― BeeOK (boo radley), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 10:46 (eighteen years ago) link

There are times when I think that The Top (and its batch of b-sides) is The Cure's greatest work

― Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 11:17 (eighteen years ago) link

As I muttered above. ;-) And perhaps you did as well! :-)

Anyway, frickin' FINALLY.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, that Glove album might be the greatest thing Robert Smith was ever associated with.

― Dan (Mr. Alphabet Says) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

HOLY FUCK the Glove album. I haven't heard that in a really long time.

― adam (adam), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

C'mon. The Glove album is crap. It's *really* dated badly (more so than the Top, even). I like Mr Alphabet Says tho'.

― flowersdie (flowersdie), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Not crap but I wouldn't say essential. The two songs sung by RS are awesome though.

― Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

The Glove album is crap

OUT.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

(This is my favourite record shopping story)

A long long time ago...

I argued with a girl in a record shop in Ayr about who spotted a bargain copy of "Blue Sunshine" first. It was me, but I'd left it in search of other bargains, intending to come back to it and stupidly figuring no-one else would lift it in the meantime. I was passing the counter and to my horror I saw her about to pay for it. I argued and cajoled and pleaded with her to let me buy it instead, even offering to buy it off her at a profit, but to no avail. So I left the shop, empty handed and disconsolate.

About an hour later she appeared in front of me in the town centre, said "This means more to you than me", kissed me, handed me the record, and walked away.

I never even caught her name...

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Awwww...

― Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link

:-D

And having been to Ayr I can actually kinda imagine the setting.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I got it on tape from a mall Sam Goody for 99 cents about 13 years ago. They had a huge (like, 6x3x3) bin full of them.

― adam (adam), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I pulled that Glove album back out in November and it's still fucking glorious.

― Dan (Sex-Eye Makeup) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

i have a copy of that tape...bought by a frined in a record town in the mall for about 99 cents...it does have it moments.

― bb (bbrz), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

About an hour later she appeared in front of me in the town centre, said "This means more to you than me", kissed me, handed me the record, and walked away.

I never even caught her name...

Nice. Worthy of a Cure song circa Kiss Me....

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I find the album an uncohesive over indulgence. It also has that dreadful girl screaming badly over mostly a load of drug fuelled nonsense. The story of where they got the name from is the best thing about it, although maybe if Robert sang more of the songs it would have worked better. If you want to listen to Robert Smith on acid, stick with The Top, really. Even Siouxsie's fairly weak 'Hyeana' from around the same time was better.

Still, that's a nice story of how you got the record, Onimo.

― flowersdie (flowersdie), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

In what demented universe is Hayeana "fairly weak" (aside from "Dear Prudence", but that's more the fault of that song than anything else because I have yet to hear a version of it that didn't suck gigantic goat balls)???

― Dan (Bring Me The Head Of The Preacherman) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

In mine it is, by SOTB standards. It's got some pretty great moments tho, eg. Bring Me The Head Of The Preacherman

― Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Hyaena could have been way more amazing with a better mix. Whoever mixed that album was doing it for the dogs 'cause it's all high-end.

Can't wait for the Top reissue!

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I think all parties involved were pretty dissatisfied about how this album turned out.

― Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Indeed. Not a patch on A Kiss in the Dreamhouse.

― flowersdie (flowersdie), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm with Dan here and you are all insane, but that said, I agree that a remastering is going to improve it incredibly.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

A Kiss In The Dreamhouse has some great songs on it but "Melt!" is massively overrated and, as an album, I am much more into Juju and Tinderbox.

― Dan (That Also Doesn't Mean _Hyaena_ Is BAD) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

so what KISS ME... extras will there be oh cure-heads?

and when is that 1991 PLAY OUT video coming out on dvd?

― piscesboy, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:02 (eighteen years ago) link

No extras announced yet, but they'll be there...Cure in Orange is coming out on DVD first.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Amen to what Dan just said. I never really understood why Dreamhouse is so often considered their masterpiece. 'Green Fingers' is up there in my POX though.

― Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Where the Dreamhouse songs shine is Nocturne.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I always thought I was alone in thinking A Kiss In The Dreamhouse was their best (along with The Scream and Tinderbox). Don't people usually go with Juju?

― LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

"Dazzle" is blurry mid-'80s wall of sound genius. Unparalleled in the Banshees catalog to that point.

As for Blue Sunshine, everyone who loves it has to admit they're apologizing for Landray. An unfortunate formality, but "This Green City," "Punish" and "Animal" are all first-rate dream/psych pop, just soaking wet stuff. That album destroys The Top, which is just hollow acid-casualty ethnocentrism. Love the title track, love "Birdmad" and "Shake"...but it's all fans-only at this point anyway, isn't it?

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I kind of adore Landray! Especially on "Looking Glass Girl" and "Orgy"; I would never in a million years call her voice "pleasant" but it seems to be tailor-made for most of the songs on that album.

― Dan (Also, "Mouth To Mouth"!) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

It has a sub-Lennox charm for me as well, but I'd never try to sell anyone on that...

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Heh, point taken.

I kind of think you're underselling The Top but I stopped going to bat for that album in 1993.

― Dan (It's Still Awesome, Though) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Fools' I mean, "Piggy in the Mirror"!

― Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh I can still go to bat for The Top, I just stopped doing it!

― Dan (Wailing Wall, Piggy In The Mirror, Give Me It, Bananafishbones, The Top, Th, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Exactly! Who cares about "acid-casualty ethnocentrism" if the songs are great? I mean, "Dressing up"! "Wailing Wall"! "Bananafishbones"!

x-post

― LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I never really understood why Dreamhouse is so often considered their masterpiece. 'Green Fingers'

The answer's right there after the full stop! And that's before I even mention Obsession (when the strings kick in after 'can you forgive me... for not understanding your ways?' - possibly the best Banshees moment ever), Cascade and the not-at-all-overrated-thank-you-very-much-Mr-Perry Melt, amongst others.

This thread about Cure reissues makes me want to listen to the Banshees more than any of the three Cure albums due out in July. I may have to have a drunken vinyl mostalgia night this weekend.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 00:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Cure in Orange is coming out on DVD first

that awesome beginning where RS takes off his wig!

― don weiner (don weiner), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 01:12 (eighteen years ago) link

"Looking Glass Girl" is a weird prototype of what Cocteau Twins would become later, to a small degree. And also Loveless to a small degree as well.

― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 03:10 (eighteen years ago) link

"Melt!" is maybe the most boring Banshees song that isn't "The Passenger".

― Dan (Zzzzzzz) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 04:16 (eighteen years ago) link

what ever happened to that landray person?

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 08:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe she returned to her profession? You lot are seriously overrating this, it's nowhere near as good as The Top!

― flowersdie (flowersdie), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Except this is wrong, but yet there is love.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

is CURE IN ORANGE really coming out on dvd or were that a joke?

― piscesboy, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Do you, Ned Raggett, claim Blue Sunshine to be better than The Top? RS was talking last year of doing a second Glove album, it'd be pretty interesting although i can't see that happen in a million years

― Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link

blue sunshine has the fine distinction of being the album I listened to the first time I dropped 4c1d

― akm (akmonday), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link

The answer's right there after the full stop! And that's before I even mention Obsession (when the strings kick in after 'can you forgive me... for not understanding your ways?' - possibly the best Banshees moment ever), Cascade and the not-at-all-overrated-thank-you-very-much-Mr-Perry Melt, amongst others.

This thread about Cure reissues makes me want to listen to the Banshees more than any of the three Cure albums due out in July. I may have to have a drunken vinyl mostalgia night this weekend.

-- Onimo (gerry.wat...), March 15th, 2006.

Onimo, you are so on there. Actually used to think Dreamhouse was one of their weakest, but when lesser known tracks like 'Obsession' reveal themselves like that ... it's glorious indeed.

Very anxious to see how well they'll be able to clean this one up. The previous U.S. vinyl and CD sound pretty bad.

― bkjj40a (bkjj40a), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

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