HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

when ur in winter everything is very dire gray digital filters as stannis burns up his only child

Gonna go back and watch an episode of Xena just to be sure I'm not setting the bar too low.

feel like rob stark has prob done this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O1hM-k3aUY

or the actor who plays john snow

thats a clip from the red wedding iirc

is dany waiting for the dragons to grow up more before trying to take over westeros? it became really clear to me this episode (tho really this has been a good question for a while) that dany is stalling for time until the narrative is ready for her to invade. so now she has all this free time to preside over the fighting pits and squabble w/ local sectarian religious groups, etc. but it can't be doing wonders for her army to have them being whittled away by all these ambushes just to- what? - return some level of stability to this city she conquered? she should take her army while it's still pretty strong, load them up, and march into westeros. it's not like the timing is going to get better.

she talked about breaking the wheel which should really mean there being no iron throne/central seat of power - maybe her 'plan' is to take it then immediately destroy it and fly off

ok but still what better time to swoop in and break the wheel than now? why wait another year or two for her armies to erode further? afaict she's not like actively recruiting new infantry.

She just lost two of her three best warriors and her strongest dragon almost got murdered by a bunch of nobodies. I don't think the timing is quite right atm

I think Dany's army is far too small at this point to match the forces of Westeros, which is why she's banking on popular support. She views freeing this city as a sort of testing ground, where she shows the commoners what kind of queen she will be.

xxxxxxxxps to sloth re unsullied: i dunno man, these guys are getting killed left and right by everybody; seems like you pay for an army of gelded death machines maybe they're okay at stopping a bunch of landowners in masks with daggers?

and if the unsullied are exceptional in the field of combat and terrible at asymmetrical urban warfare - maybe ditch the urban occupation and utilize their strengths?

how are they in the snow

they know nothing

maybe this is just a story about how an occupying power with the best of intentions cannot compete w/ an indigenous, guerrilla organization. do we even get the sense that dany is acting aggressively towards putting down this rebellion? it seems like she's spending all her time watching battles and getting married and not enough time conducting midnight raids in parts of the city sympathetic to the revolution.

think the issue is, and was raised here before, that this army of masked dudes is kind of unbelievable. where were these guys, for ex, when all these cities were being taken over by lightly armed, recently liberated, and (most notably perhaps) untrained former slaves? seems like they are this limitless supply of highly trained assassins that just materialized to present a challenge (i.e. weak writing)

Her government has been really bad at identifying the bodies of the people who were trying to kill her. You'd think they could trace a few of them back to their families?

well they all look the same with those masks on

seems like a thousand guys attended a heavily guarded arena with masks proving they're part of a rebellion army stuck in their capes and the omnipresent militia didn't notice at all, no biggie

this is how the security state gets started

Never before has a tv show bored and depressed simultaneously like this season of GoT.

Next thing you know Dany's going to be tapping ravens

don't get me wrong though: i think getting indignant about those kind of plot inconsistencies is sorta pointless. like, there's a fucking dragon in this, it's okay if there's some hard-to-believe construction in the storyline.
but that applies to the whole STANNIS IS DEAD TO ME stuff too; dude has been burning people from jump and they telegraphed this coming for three episodes. ;

I think it's pretty lol that people warmed to Stannis after a couple of scenes of him not being a complete prig

xxxxxxxxps to sloth re unsullied: i dunno man, these guys are getting killed left and right by everybody; seems like you pay for an army of gelded death machines maybe they're okay at stopping a bunch of landowners in masks with daggers?

― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, June 8, 2015 2:24 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean i will not discount the possibility of being totally wrong thinking there's a real reason & the show just flipping the script/allowing them to be the subject of ambushes for lazy writing reasons, but the show is generally well-plotted/thought out esp. re: world building and detail shit (if not always plot) so i figured there was an in-world reason. friend of in conversation also suggested that having their freedom (such as it is) for some time now could've made them a bit out of practice?

but of course could just be yadda-yaddaing to get to the next point on dany's map route. then again if it gets us out of meereen not the worst thing? lol

unsullied just need to get some swords instead of those sticks

maybe tyrion will invent guns

he'll unveil them at the next fighting pit tournament with the words "WELCOME TO THE GUN SHOW"

you don't need to be bailed out by your flying dragon if your army of dickless wonders are actually wonders i guess
this has been, in general, an off season but hey: zombie fight in the /with the snow! that buys you several hours of patience.

*& the show is just

realize i just contradicted myself bc i did not proofread before clicking post - better phrasing: the story is well told and the world well built but the moment to moment gears of plot can sometimes jam. something like this could be an example of that and benioff/weiss are just like "ehhh let's just get through the next pages" when they come to minor but annoying snags

The Stannis thing is also hilarious; basically because dude was nice to his daughter, half the viewers forgot that he's a total Tywin/Roose-style bastard who is in it for the power.

The unsullied were a slave army working for some lame regional warlord. They're tough, but they're not legendary badasses.

it's to the show's credit that it can continue to shock + anger viewers. it's not really to the viewers' credit tho.

xp uh, i dunno about that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHfyW1Efiiw

stannis and sheerin relaysh was the second time there was a moderately heartwarming exchange between a father and a scorned offspring, followed shortly thereafter by the father at least trying to kill them (tywin and tyrion the other iirc)

xp these guys were supposed to master the shield, the short sword and the three spears. Only one boy in four survive training. They go out and kill babies in front of their mothers and pop off nipples like pringles. They seem fairly legendary to me.

sounds like bullshit to me. I bet 3 in 4 survive training.

Yeah would be a lot less irritated by unsullied use/swordlessness if they hadn't gone so far out of their way to hype them up in that scene.

Feel like he could just as easily have drugged one specific dude for the nipple trick though.

lol at unsullied truthers
"okay but have you ever SEEN that they have no balls?"

spears can't melt steel beams, folks.

Yeah would be a lot less irritated by unsullied use/swordlessness if they hadn't gone so far out of their way to hype them up in that scene.

Feel like he could just as easily have drugged one specific dude for the nipple trick though.

― tsrobodo, Monday, June 8, 2015 2:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It was just a pepperoni. Classic salesman technique.

Damn, if these guys can kill babies they must be real tough

I'm pretty confused about the sons of the harpy now tbh.

I thought this was a perfectly decent episode, though it felt like the last scene was episode 10 material. I think every season but 4 ended with dany and her dragons?

sons of the harpy are like the Baathists in Iraq after the US-invasion--if they were all ninjas

exactly - a fair amount of them are prob pit fighters who were out of work (may have said this weeks ago), although just bc the fighting pits are open doesn't mean they dont want to overthrow her for a lot of reasons

The bit where the harpies had Dany & co. surrounded and were hesitantly attacking one at a time really reminded me of this...

http://www.theonion.com/article/game-thrones-fans-shocked-after-some-little-goblin-50606

I found myself being concerned about the quality of Arya's cockles and clams which she seemed to cart around all day in the sun. One character in the brothel said they were "fresh", which I found hard to believe. Anyway, that brothel scene was not only ugh but didn't really go anywhere. I expected Arya to be drafted into service by the madam when that guy kept wanting someone younger. But no, she was shooed out and that was that.

i was a bit surprised to see dany's husband unceremoniously killed, i assumed his timid chump thing was a cover for some association with the rebels but nop there he is getting stabbed up without even a hint of resistance

Or maybe he was a rebel but got stabbed up cause they think he's annoying too