HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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Next thing you know Dany's going to be tapping ravens

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link

don't get me wrong though: i think getting indignant about those kind of plot inconsistencies is sorta pointless. like, there's a fucking dragon in this, it's okay if there's some hard-to-believe construction in the storyline.
but that applies to the whole STANNIS IS DEAD TO ME stuff too; dude has been burning people from jump and they telegraphed this coming for three episodes. ;

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link

I think it's pretty lol that people warmed to Stannis after a couple of scenes of him not being a complete prig

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link

xxxxxxxxps to sloth re unsullied: i dunno man, these guys are getting killed left and right by everybody; seems like you pay for an army of gelded death machines maybe they're okay at stopping a bunch of landowners in masks with daggers?

― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, June 8, 2015 2:24 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean i will not discount the possibility of being totally wrong thinking there's a real reason & the show just flipping the script/allowing them to be the subject of ambushes for lazy writing reasons, but the show is generally well-plotted/thought out esp. re: world building and detail shit (if not always plot) so i figured there was an in-world reason. friend of in conversation also suggested that having their freedom (such as it is) for some time now could've made them a bit out of practice?

but of course could just be yadda-yaddaing to get to the next point on dany's map route. then again if it gets us out of meereen not the worst thing? lol

slothroprhymes, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link

unsullied just need to get some swords instead of those sticks

lag∞n, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link

maybe tyrion will invent guns

polyphonic, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link

he'll unveil them at the next fighting pit tournament with the words "WELCOME TO THE GUN SHOW"

DJP, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

you don't need to be bailed out by your flying dragon if your army of dickless wonders are actually wonders i guess
this has been, in general, an off season but hey: zombie fight in the /with the snow! that buys you several hours of patience.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

*& the show is just

realize i just contradicted myself bc i did not proofread before clicking post - better phrasing: the story is well told and the world well built but the moment to moment gears of plot can sometimes jam. something like this could be an example of that and benioff/weiss are just like "ehhh let's just get through the next pages" when they come to minor but annoying snags

slothroprhymes, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link

The Stannis thing is also hilarious; basically because dude was nice to his daughter, half the viewers forgot that he's a total Tywin/Roose-style bastard who is in it for the power.

DJP, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link

The unsullied were a slave army working for some lame regional warlord. They're tough, but they're not legendary badasses.

polyphonic, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

it's to the show's credit that it can continue to shock + anger viewers. it's not really to the viewers' credit tho.

Mordy, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link

xp uh, i dunno about that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHfyW1Efiiw

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

stannis and sheerin relaysh was the second time there was a moderately heartwarming exchange between a father and a scorned offspring, followed shortly thereafter by the father at least trying to kill them (tywin and tyrion the other iirc)

nomar, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

xp these guys were supposed to master the shield, the short sword and the three spears. Only one boy in four survive training. They go out and kill babies in front of their mothers and pop off nipples like pringles. They seem fairly legendary to me.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

sounds like bullshit to me. I bet 3 in 4 survive training.

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link

Yeah would be a lot less irritated by unsullied use/swordlessness if they hadn't gone so far out of their way to hype them up in that scene.

Feel like he could just as easily have drugged one specific dude for the nipple trick though.

tsrobodo, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link

lol at unsullied truthers
"okay but have you ever SEEN that they have no balls?"

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

spears can't melt steel beams, folks.

slothroprhymes, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link

Yeah would be a lot less irritated by unsullied use/swordlessness if they hadn't gone so far out of their way to hype them up in that scene.

Feel like he could just as easily have drugged one specific dude for the nipple trick though.

― tsrobodo, Monday, June 8, 2015 2:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It was just a pepperoni. Classic salesman technique.

Evan, Monday, 8 June 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link

Damn, if these guys can kill babies they must be real tough

polyphonic, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link

I'm pretty confused about the sons of the harpy now tbh.

I thought this was a perfectly decent episode, though it felt like the last scene was episode 10 material. I think every season but 4 ended with dany and her dragons?

nomar, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link

sons of the harpy are like the Baathists in Iraq after the US-invasion--if they were all ninjas

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 8 June 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link

exactly - a fair amount of them are prob pit fighters who were out of work (may have said this weeks ago), although just bc the fighting pits are open doesn't mean they dont want to overthrow her for a lot of reasons

slothroprhymes, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link

The bit where the harpies had Dany & co. surrounded and were hesitantly attacking one at a time really reminded me of this...

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link

I found myself being concerned about the quality of Arya's cockles and clams which she seemed to cart around all day in the sun. One character in the brothel said they were "fresh", which I found hard to believe. Anyway, that brothel scene was not only ugh but didn't really go anywhere. I expected Arya to be drafted into service by the madam when that guy kept wanting someone younger. But no, she was shooed out and that was that.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Monday, 8 June 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link

i was a bit surprised to see dany's husband unceremoniously killed, i assumed his timid chump thing was a cover for some association with the rebels but nop there he is getting stabbed up without even a hint of resistance

Merdeyeux, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link

Or maybe he was a rebel but got stabbed up cause they think he's annoying too

tsrobodo, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link

lol

slothroprhymes, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link

Also the way they built up Bronn's punishment over two scenes - and it turned out to be a punch in the nose?

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Monday, 8 June 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link

seems like ppl are glossing over the pedo brothel scene bc of their outrage over the stannis daughter auto-da-fé, but if ever there was a time to complain about needless cruelty towards women in fiction that would seem to be it.

Mordy, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link

idk but am hoping that dorne is just over now, that cersei's kid comes home and jamie too (or they both die) and nobody ever speaks of dorne again

head clowning instructor (art), Monday, 8 June 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link

xp you can't get as many easy #takes written out of that scene, salon writers v bummed today

it was a defensible scene at first (yeah these dudes would prob go to a foreign brothel), then pointless/OTT bc it's like "well of course this person we established as a blindly loyal sadistic little shit has to ALSO be a pederast before arya can kill him"

slothroprhymes, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link

that said, it does track w/ why he was so eager to be sadistic to sansa at joffrey's command back in season 2. it was ALWAYS meryn trant doing that, not any other kingsguard knights

slothroprhymes, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

but nah we didnt really need to see that and it was uncomfortable af

slothroprhymes, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link

dorne sounded great when it was presented as a paradise of free-thinking hedonists, but maybe oberyn was the only fun one among them

Merdeyeux, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

xp prob just trying to remind you that he's a shitty dude since there are so many other minor shitty dudes that he could easily be a shitty tree lost in the shitty forest

head clowning instructor (art), Monday, 8 June 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link

Game of Shitty Forests

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link

a friend of mine tuned into GoT for the first time ever for this episode and was like "uh, no".

akm, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

nothing like the penultimate episode of a serialized drama in its fifth season to find out if a tv show is for you

Clay, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

tbh, this show rarely registers as entertainment with me anymore.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Monday, 8 June 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

I like to wait for shows to end and then watch them backward to see all the characters rise from the dead

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 8 June 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

except for the characters who actually rose from the dead... they will unrise back to living.

giant vs mountain

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 June 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link

can someone explain without spoilers what Arya's doing and who the people coming off the boat were (Gatiss is Iron Bank guy but can't remember the others)?

kinder, Monday, 8 June 2015 21:14 (eight years ago) link

Mace Tyrell of the lollipop guild was there to negotiate finances. Sent by Cersei and accompanied by Meryn fucking Trant.

Evan, Monday, 8 June 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link

The bigwig is Mace Tyrell and the other guy is the guy who helped kill Arya's sword-fighting teacher in season 1. I assume she wants to kill him or something.

xp

Modern French Music from Failure to Boulez (askance johnson), Monday, 8 June 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link

Gatiss is Tycho Nestoris.

polyphonic, Monday, 8 June 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link

ok thanks!

kinder, Monday, 8 June 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link


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